The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

[CuckFumbustion]

Hello @mecker and welcome to the forum. Bags are generally more troublesome than whips. But the EQ does bags fine at that. It just mods in so many other ways that bags pale in comparison to most users. I can do bags and get better results with some mod parts too.
The Vtower has no fans. And you can get an EQ for $150.00 plus warranty from an authorized dealer.(got mine from Agracan in Canada) So for the same price as a Vtower, why would you settle for less? Is there any type of advantage a Vtowers has over an EQ? I'm guessing not. I use my fan and you will need it for bags and (maybe water filtering?) It is nice to have choices.

Jeez @Stevenski you seem to keep getting "bagged" for your bag comment. But don't let that 'burst your balloon'. Just let it 'air out' and it all be fine. sorry couldn't resist the urge to release some 'hot air'. Just for the Pun of it. Wow that post sure was 'exhausting'.

 

[ataxian]

Thanks for the quick reply Stevenski!

I got to read the last few pages and they did indeed answer most of my questions.
There's still some doubts I have left like how does the amount of herbs you have to pack compare to the MFLB? Can I use hash on the extremeQ? And last but not least, I've read a post in which you say that bags sucks, this was one of the reasons I thought the EQ was superior ( the fact it can do both methods) my questions is if the VTower woulb be a better buy for me?

I like all the bell & whistles of the Q!

Bags I have never done however I will try 2016.

I have many vaporizers + I've owned a few!



For the $?

I think it's a very decent deal?
My @DDave kit made it incredible!

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Bags I have never done however I will try 2016.

I bought some Vape bags from Puffitup.com. Best price anywhere with coupon code. Excellent shipping. FC member.
Took my old cyclone bowls and some duct tape and made vape bags with 18mm openings. With my straight wand setup, they fill up fast! Haven't tried it with my most recent double wand setup yet. The duel perc dominates for the moment.
Another option, With the 18mm bag filled with vapor, I can separate it from the EQ and attach it to my water piece. Then draw water filtered vapor with no tube restriction!
And even one more option, I can attach the 18mm bag to my perc. Run the EQ and have a bag of filtered vapor. I ask you, Can a Volcano do that?

 

[Stevenski]

Thanks for the quick reply Stevenski!

I got to read the last few pages and they did indeed answer most of my questions.
There's still some doubts I have left like how does the amount of herbs you have to pack compare to the MFLB? Can I use hash on the extremeQ? And last but not least, I've read a post in which you say that bags sucks, this was one of the reasons I thought the EQ was superior ( the fact it can do both methods) my questions is if the VTower woulb be a better buy for me?

I can't compare it to a launch box but I use more herb in my EQ than I do in my Air. That is because the EQ is much more efficient at extracting the good stuff than say my Air by comparison. I use twice as much herb for half as many rips. That said those EQ rips are a very different kettle of fish . Cucky answered the bag question fine on why you would choose an EQ over the competition.

Jeez @Stevenski you seem to keep getting "bagged" for your bag comment. But don't let that 'burst your balloon'. Just let it 'air out' and it all be fine. sorry couldn't resist the urge to release some 'hot air'. Just for the Pun of it. Wow that post sure was 'exhausting'.

Enough with the dad jokes son I make no secret about my disregard for bags. Bear in mind that bags were the #1 reason I purchased the EQ over the DBV or SSV at the time. It was point of difference & was something the EQ could do that the others could not do. Also the idea of having to pay extra for a "hands free" kit sounded like a outright design flaw to me. So I purchased my EQ & I stuck with bags for a month or two as well as occasional whip use & a lot of combustion. I still have 4 new vape bags in my cupboard.

Cleaning my EQ Elbow & a 18mm bowl at the same time was the lightbulb moment for me as I grew up with Aussie style bongs so 14 & 18mm meant nothing to me. Shortly thereafter I ventured into vapor bonging by using two EQ elbows. From that day forth it has been a mission to get the densest vapour I could out of the EQ. Running bags is contrary to that mission but hey as I said previously if you like airy vapour of the kind a woman or small child may enjoy then bags are definitely for you. I prefer to rip monster buckets & transform myself into a vapour breathing dragon on the regular personally (yes I am having a dragon moment right now) .

I will add that my modded EQ tends to spend 90% of it's time at 230c going through a bong or bubber. When I do use the whip & tall DDave adapter at say 185-200c it has nearly zero draw resistance but is a bit airy. I get the feeling that the tall 14mm adapter & whip will provide the right mix of airflow & hit density but the load size may be a bit small.

 

[MoltenTiger]

Hello fellow vapers!
Any opinions on if the Extreme Q is still a good buy nowadays?
I've had a MFLB for 3-4 years now and it just doesn't fill my need anymore. Even though it made me quit on smoking at first, I can no longer ignore the power of a toke from a spliff vs mflb.

What do you guys say? Would the Extreme Q be a good buy for me? Keep in mind that I wouldn't say no to a cheaper option (nofunds student lol)

keep vaping!
Rúben

The EQ will never not be a good buy (although it is a fairly expensive purchase). It's a really good vaporizer.
It's durable, but has good customer service that is very rarely needed for this model.
It's also easily user repairable!
Mine has fallen over a couple of times, but recently I pulled it off my desk (750mm), and it slammed into a hardwood floor I was sure it would be in a million pieces, but it was absolutely fine and still performs just as well.

I think its biggest downfall is its efficiency. It's not going to be as efficient in herb usage as the MFLB, but it's just a totally different experience. It extracts more, way faster.

I've had a MFLB for 5 years I think, and the last time I enjoyed it was actually this past Christmas day. It was my only option and it was a brilliant time.
The EQ in comparison, I purchased pretty much directly after trying a friends unit almost a couple of years ago.
It basically made me aware of what 'vaporizing weed' could actually mean.
It's amazing.

It's a very stable, durable base unit which can be used in heaps of different ways; bag, whip, bong/hydratube and any combination of all three.

If the MFLB is the only vape you've used, I doubt you could be unhappy with the EQ. It's not flawless, its big and attached to a wall, but it works reaaaaaal well

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Alright, time for me to come clean and give my take on bags. They have their place. There is some pros and cons like any other delivery method. Just that most EQers figure out how much power they can get with a glass setup with some mods.
I revisited the bags with my newest glass setup. Wanted to stress test to see how well my duel wands were performing. It did as well as expected. Got me remembering about the biggest problem with bags. I find it is dissipation. Forced air thinning out the vapor or minute leaking. You can fill an EQ bag and have it look like a white pillow when all things align and come together. But overfill a little and that balance is broken. So you run at higher temps to compensate for heat dissipation and you have the high temps probs. I've had some accidental combustion moments trying to get a short F/F to heat a cap, only to have it heat up the metal screen and ignite.

If you are a medical patient, Bags might be the only safe option. In that case, I would get the knack and fine tune what you need for medication. Use moderate temps to extract your medicine. Even how well the body is meant to absorb is a factor. IMO.

If you however want a powerhouse for your water piece and/or seeking more refined extraction, then bags add too many variables to that equation.

But If you are like me, you build a tolerance/boredom/inconvenience for one method and go to another.
Lungs are worn from all those power dragon rips with the reclaim? Maybe today's the day for a cool lung medicating bag? Water filter feel too weak? Maybe a direct draw with a short vapor path? Need to be a miser? Get the 14mm bowl and wand. Feel like absorbing things a little slower. Perhaps a bowl sesh at 185c and step it up 4C at a time to 210c to slowly taste the terps release the flava'.

Since now I can switch between the water filter/bag/whip without changing the cap. I can start with the water piece or wand and end with a bag to squeeze that last bit of fumes out of the pack. If I get greedy and over pack I can fill the bag at Fan 3 (without the effort on my part), at the end of my sesh. So the best of all choices, I guess.

 

[throwawaytre3s]

I bought some Vape bags from Puffitup.com. Best price anywhere with coupon code. Excellent shipping. FC member.

It's funny, I was in the car with my friend the other day, and we dropped by the headshop on the way to the grocery store to get turkey bags for new vape bags! I saw these on sale in the shop and got them instead. 5 bags for $4.50, or something close, rather than 2 bags for $5 for turkey bags. I have one set up now, and I love it!

Also, I managed to get my DDave mod off my EQ, no breaking of it or the heater cover! I'll be applying a light coating of beeswax to it now.

 

[kellya86]

@Stevenski I too found the standard ddave kit to have not enough draw resistance, so I swapped out the ddave tube for an 8mm(i/t), 1.5mm(wall thickness) silicone tube from vapefiend.com, I find this to be perfect for me....

I only dry vape...

I get very thick vapour...

 

[tomshreds]

Hi again folks, I've been lurking out to learn more about EQ users' habits, good way to use for good efficiency, etc.

I noticed that almost everyone uses a mod of some sort to enhance its performance. Also read about short draw resistance and temps.

As an EQ newbie, I'd like to know:

1) How dry do you like your herbs when you use the EQ?

2) What's the best temp out-of-the-box to use for best results? (with stock EQ)

3) I also read people saying that the MFLB is more efficient. How? Use less herbs for more vapor? Use more herbs for more vapor? (I currently use a water bong and waste a lot of herb IMO so any option would be better than my current hehe)

Just curious, my EQ is getting closer! I should get it by Wednesday!

Thanks!

 

[ataxian]

Alright, time for me to come clean and give my take on bags. They have their place. There is some pros and cons like any other delivery method. Just that most EQers figure out how much power they can get with a glass setup with some mods.
I revisited the bags with my newest glass setup. Wanted to stress test to see how well my duel wands were performing. It did as well as expected. Got me remembering about the biggest problem with bags. I find it is dissipation. Forced air thinning out the vapor or minute leaking. You can fill an EQ bag and have it look like a white pillow when all things align and come together. But overfill a little and that balance is broken. So you run at higher temps to compensate for heat dissipation and you have the high temps probs. I've had some accidental combustion moments trying to get a short F/F to heat a cap, only to have it heat up the metal screen and ignite.

If you are a medical patient, Bags might be the only safe option. In that case, I would get the knack and fine tune what you need for medication. Use moderate temps to extract your medicine. Even how well the body is meant to absorb is a factor. IMO.

If you however want a powerhouse for your water piece and/or seeking more refined extraction, then bags add too many variables to that equation.

But If you are like me, you build a tolerance/boredom/inconvenience for one method and go to another.
Lungs are worn from all those power dragon rips with the reclaim? Maybe today's the day for a cool lung medicating bag? Water filter feel too weak? Maybe a direct draw with a short vapor path? Need to be a miser? Get the 14mm bowl and wand. Feel like absorbing things a little slower. Perhaps a bowl sesh at 185c and step it up 4C at a time to 210c to slowly taste the terps release the flava'.

Since now I can switch between the water filter/bag/whip without changing the cap. I can start with the water piece or wand and end with a bag to squeeze that last bit of fumes out of the pack. If I get greedy and over pack I can fill the bag at Fan 3 (without the effort on my part), at the end of my sesh. So the best of all choices, I guess.

Bags I will try 2016 however they seem kind of a hassle?

I love joints the best however they are too hot these dayz!
The MFLB took so many batteries to operate I thought it was poorly designed?
The SOLO is bigger however the flavor is very good for a portable.
The Q is better than both of them!

The BENDER blows away most vaporizers on the market except it consumes a lot!

I like my VAP2, SSV, DA BUDDHA, FIREFLY, NANO, SOLO, LOTUS and Q.
These devices are in my rotation.
Some of the other's I owned however they did not work for me.

Besides I like big trees better than vaporizers.

Bag's I want to try just to say I tried!

WAX PENS are another topic.

 

[philmein]

I bought some Vape bags from Puffitup.com. Best price anywhere with coupon code. Excellent shipping. FC member.
Took my old cyclone bowls and some duct tape and made vape bags with 18mm openings. With my straight wand setup, they fill up fast! Haven't tried it with my most recent double wand setup yet. The duel perc dominates for the moment.
Another option, With the 18mm bag filled with vapor, I can separate it from the EQ and attach it to my water piece. Then draw water filtered vapor with no tube restriction!
And even one more option, I can attach the 18mm bag to my perc. Run the EQ and have a bag of filtered vapor. I ask you, Can a Volcano do that?

With the 18mm bag filled with vapor, I can separate it from the EQ and attach it to my water piece
what a great idea m8.

been using the ddave mod kit for a month or so now and it rocks.
but i just had to order a bubbler d020 ( starter one i know ) when i worked out what a bubbler actually was lol.
but i would have never thought of using the bag and bubbler together i have half a dozen bags in the cupboard that i dont use since i got used to the whio trail and error.

seems i was not leaving the eq on long enough to heat properly and then turning off after use
Big Mistake wasted loads but still got there in the end and love this vapourizer and the great support on the forum.

BTW thanx DDave for the mod kit got to the uk super quick and Very well packed

 

[DDave]

@philmein Welcome to the forum and glad to hear you're liking you kit!

No worries on leaving your EQ powered on and ready for a session... I do 16+ hours per day and have done this for 3+ years... no issues.

Glad to hear shipping was quick to UK (only had two incur extreme delays) and that all arrived safely!

Enjoy!

 

[philmein]

quick question guys the residue that builds up in the thick glass DDave wand is it possible to recover it for use or just not worth the hassle just clean with iso a call it a day

 

[DDave]

If you can get it, 99%ISO. Soak, save, repeat till ISO gets kind of yellow brown... Evap the ISO and end up with some nice reclaim that you can vape!

 

[little maggie]

Don't know whether to post this on the Ask FC area but I'm thinking of getting either an Arizer Extreme or da buddha. Have any of you tried both? If so, which would you say is least harsh?

 

[Justpassedu]

Don't know whether to post this on the Ask FC area but I'm thinking of getting either an Arizer Extreme or da buddha. Have any of you tried both? If so, which would you say is least harsh?

I would say go Eq , i have tried both and own a Eq along with the SS from 7th floor and the LSV. I like my Eq allot more than the da buddha for the simple fact it can do allot more and just as well if not better. I never though either were harsh at all imo and both can be used at low temps to help with that and water tools. A plus for the Eq is that it has a fan assist and can be used to blow bags and also used via water tools and the whip. I feel using the fan assist via a water tool would prob help cool the vapor a bit and get rid of some harshness you may experience.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Hi again folks, I've been lurking out to learn more about EQ users' habits, good way to use for good efficiency, etc.

I noticed that almost everyone uses a mod of some sort to enhance its performance. Also read about short draw resistance and temps.

As an EQ newbie, I'd like to know:

1) How dry do you like your herbs when you use the EQ?

2) What's the best temp out-of-the-box to use for best results? (with stock EQ)

3) I also read people saying that the MFLB is more efficient. How? Use less herbs for more vapor? Use more herbs for more vapor? (I currently use a water bong and waste a lot of herb IMO so any option would be better than my current hehe)

Just curious, my EQ is getting closer! I should get it by Wednesday!

Thanks!

1b) Dryer is generally better for vapor production. How fine of a grind and how firm a cap pack contributes to how well of an extraction can occur.

2b) Best temp for out of the box parts for whips session. 185c -210c, 200+ for bags. 220c being critical temp. But YMMV. Some will power bong rip at 230c.
But I'm not recommending that myself. As you are already guessing, the @DDave kit uses lower temps to get similar results. Then there is the personal setup everybody comes up with. My Personal EQ setup is at a constant 200c and it can achieve cloudy vapor every time with less than a minute of warm up time.
There is a whole other issue and chart about what actives are released at what temps that you can refer to. If you want to get more technical.

3b) MFLB is a portable conduction vape. Never used one myself. But some have mastered their draw to get results. The EQ is a desktop convection vape with a 3 speed fan. You can get good results from either with enough experience under your belt. But with the desktop, you get AC power to keep that heater doing it's job. It's like comparing your PC to your laptop. The laptop does it's job as best it can with the power it has available. But the desktop has all the power it needs to do it's job.
Vaporizing, when done well, requires a lot of energy to ramp up at once. The MFLB doesn't keep a constant temp or have any sort of temp regulation involved. The user controls the amount of juice used when they press on the battery. Crude but effective. The EQ has all the power it needs to ramp up quickly and can keep that temp going. How much heat is lost and that heat needed to keep that desired constant is the crux of the matter. When I got my baseline of 200C to work 100% of the time, I could tweak the other things better.

For the EQ with stock, elbow packs are the most efficient for extracting quickly. But bowl packs have their plus's too. As for my setup, I have the @DDave kit and other parts that I've purchased elsewhere. This allows me to 'dial-in' the temp I want. No factoring in the amount of heat loss from the glass, much less stock. @200c means the whole wand and bowl is at 200c, not just the EQ's sensor. Continue reading the older posts in this forum and ask questions and let us know how things are goin.

It's funny, I was in the car with my friend the other day, and we dropped by the headshop on the way to the grocery store to get turkey bags for new vape bags! I saw these on sale in the shop and got them instead. 5 bags for $4.50, or something close, rather than 2 bags for $5 for turkey bags. I have one set up now, and I love it!

Also, I managed to get my DDave mod off my EQ, no breaking of it or the heater cover! I'll be applying a light coating of beeswax to it now.

Sweet deal! And by co-ink-ee-dink too. The Vape bags are way better than stock. Glad I was able to plant that idea for you and got you to perhaps try that. I actually find a lot of cool things in a used store for my EQ. Must be a relief to get your EQ back too!
@philmein welcome to the thread. Glad you like my idea, I have went modular with my glass setup, so that allows me that certain type of flexibility.
Currently, I use my whip and water tool like normal, then use the bag to squeeze that last bit of fumes out.
You seem to have one of everything yourself. EQ, @DDave kit and the classic EQ fav -The d020,( and you found FC .) Let us know how that all comes together for you.

 

[kellya86]

@philmein check out the fc uk 2016 meet thread...

Good to see another UK vaping pioneer..

And another eq fan...

 

[MoltenTiger]

Hi again folks, I've been lurking out to learn more about EQ users' habits, good way to use for good efficiency, etc.

I noticed that almost everyone uses a mod of some sort to enhance its performance. Also read about short draw resistance and temps.

As an EQ newbie, I'd like to know:

1) How dry do you like your herbs when you use the EQ?

2) What's the best temp out-of-the-box to use for best results? (with stock EQ)

3) I also read people saying that the MFLB is more efficient. How? Use less herbs for more vapor? Use more herbs for more vapor? (I currently use a water bong and waste a lot of herb IMO so any option would be better than my current hehe)

Just curious, my EQ is getting closer! I should get it by Wednesday!

Thanks!

1.) I'm not too fussed with moisture levels, I take it as it comes and it varies a lot for me. Generally it dries quickly as I store it in jars. I guess dryer is better but it's not always tastier like that. It really depends on the bud, but you want it cured and ready for smoking.

2.) With the out-of-the-box cyclone bowl I would add 10-15C, but for the highly valuable small adapter/elbow pack mod (a la DDave):

155-190 for tasty, lighter, smoother vapour with a very clean and uplifting high. Best for a sipping sesh style.

190-210 for some medium, foggier, harder hitting, faster acting hits.

210-230 for some proper bong-white-walling and potentially intense onset, especially with low tolerance. Absolutely with kief. Starting to get a heavier feeling high here with the faster and more thorough extraction of the cannabinoid spectrum.

237 just under the beginnings of combustion at 240, this is best used through water and before bed.

3.) The MFLB is more efficient because it is incapable of going through the same amount of herb as the EQ. The MFLB is a slow leaching conduction based low powered portable. The EQ on the other hand is a ceramic rod heater based conduction/convection powerhouse. You could use the EQ very efficiently if you chose to, but it's still much better than combustion if you veg out and go to town. I buy bud far less frequently than when combusting because of my EQ. I also feel more lively and healthy, but I have also stopped smoking tobacco.
It's pretty hard to make the transition from smoking, but I think if you find your connoisseur sweet spot with an EQ set up it is bound to help in a big way.

PS- I hadn't seen cuckfumbustions reply but it was somewhat uncanny to read.
As always I am mega baked from EQ mothership hits, I broke into my fruit punch reserves

 

[throwawaytre3s]

With the 18mm bag filled with vapor, I can separate it from the EQ and attach it to my water piece
what a great idea m8.

been using the ddave mod kit for a month or so now and it rocks.
but i just had to order a bubbler d020 ( starter one i know ) when i worked out what a bubbler actually was lol.
but i would have never thought of using the bag and bubbler together i have half a dozen bags in the cupboard that i dont use since i got used to the whio trail and error.

seems i was not leaving the eq on long enough to heat properly and then turning off after use
Big Mistake wasted loads but still got there in the end and love this vapourizer and the great support on the forum.

BTW thanx DDave for the mod kit got to the uk super quick and Very well packed

I've run quite a few bags through my d020-d! It's great! it's awesome for passing around, and there's no worry about someone accidentally knocking the vape over by tugging on the whip, or anything else on the table for that matter. I use a vaporbrothers h20 adapter to hook onto the silicon tubing I have that slides over the bag mouthpiece. This adapter then just fits into any 18mm female adapter, like the one on the d020-d!

 

[tomshreds]

1.) I'm not too fussed with moisture levels, I take it as it comes and it varies a lot for me. Generally it dries quickly as I store it in jars. I guess dryer is better but it's not always tastier like that. It really depends on the bud, but you want it cured and ready for smoking.

2.) With the out-of-the-box cyclone bowl I would add 10-15C, but for the highly valuable small adapter/elbow pack mod (a la DDave):

155-190 for tasty, lighter, smoother vapour with a very clean and uplifting high. Best for a sipping sesh style.

190-210 for some medium, foggier, harder hitting, faster acting hits.

210-230 for some proper bong-white-walling and potentially intense onset, especially with low tolerance. Absolutely with kief. Starting to get a heavier feeling high here with the faster and more thorough extraction of the cannabinoid spectrum.

237 just under the beginnings of combustion at 240, this is best used through water and before bed.

3.) The MFLB is more efficient because it is incapable of going through the same amount of herb as the EQ. The MFLB is a slow leaching conduction based low powered portable. The EQ on the other hand is a ceramic rod heater based conduction/convection powerhouse. You could use the EQ very efficiently if you chose to, but it's still much better than combustion if you veg out and go to town. I buy bud far less frequently than when combusting because of my EQ. I also feel more lively and healthy, but I have also stopped smoking tobacco.
It's pretty hard to make the transition from smoking, but I think if you find your connoisseur sweet spot with an EQ set up it is bound to help in a big way.

PS- I hadn't seen cuckfumbustions reply but it was somewhat uncanny to read.
As always I am mega baked from EQ mothership hits, I broke into my fruit punch reserves

Woah thanks for the very nice answer! I kept it noted so I can experiment whenever I receive my EQ.

Glad to read that it takes less herbs than using my bong or the MFLB. I remember buying less when I used to have my Solo so that's a great plus; And I mainly do it for the health factor too; I spit black stuff in the morning from always using my water bong and I don't feel super healthy whenever I get outside running so converting back to vaping will greatly help IMO.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

1.) I'm not too fussed with moisture levels, I take it as it comes and it varies a lot for me. Generally it dries quickly as I store it in jars. I guess dryer is better but it's not always tastier like that. It really depends on the bud, but you want it cured and ready for smoking.

2.) With the out-of-the-box cyclone bowl I would add 10-15C, but for the highly valuable small adapter/elbow pack mod (a la DDave):

155-190 for tasty, lighter, smoother vapour with a very clean and uplifting high. Best for a sipping sesh style.

190-210 for some medium, foggier, harder hitting, faster acting hits.

210-230 for some proper bong-white-walling and potentially intense onset, especially with low tolerance. Absolutely with kief. Starting to get a heavier feeling high here with the faster and more thorough extraction of the cannabinoid spectrum.

237 just under the beginnings of combustion at 240, this is best used through water and before bed.

3.) The MFLB is more efficient because it is incapable of going through the same amount of herb as the EQ. The MFLB is a slow leaching conduction based low powered portable. The EQ on the other hand is a ceramic rod heater based conduction/convection powerhouse. You could use the EQ very efficiently if you chose to, but it's still much better than combustion if you veg out and go to town. I buy bud far less frequently than when combusting because of my EQ. I also feel more lively and healthy, but I have also stopped smoking tobacco.
It's pretty hard to make the transition from smoking, but I think if you find your connoisseur sweet spot with an EQ set up it is bound to help in a big way.

PS- I hadn't seen cuckfumbustions reply but it was somewhat uncanny to read.
As always I am mega baked from EQ mothership hits, I broke into my fruit punch reserves

I like your breakdown better than mine. But I do touch on a few different things in my post. and perhaps someone else can chime in with their 2 cents and expand on that. But their is definitely a full spectrum of types of vapor that can be produced with different levels of extraction. That is why I'm always going on about dialed-in temps. Being that the displayed temp more closely resembles the temp of the glass bowl and the air inside that glass. And perhaps that the glass and air can keep it's temp like the heater can. Preheating the EQ helps the heater cover glass keep that desired constant.
And if you can get something satisfying from the 155c -175c range consistently, well share that info with the group. Please!

 

[MoltenTiger]

I used to spit up black shit. I don't anymore. Bong smoking is really a fairly unhealthy past time. My intention last year was to replace my tobacco/weed cone smoking habit with a less deadly alternative. Even with the addiction to tobacco, vapour bongs are the perfect solution for me. I find smoking helps with sleep a lot better, but I will receive some other herbs today I'm hoping will fill the gap. Mugwort, Passion flower and valerian which I plan on using in the MFLB or in tea.

And Cucky, I was going to list 155 as a pure taste temp. My EQ sits at 222 pretty much constantly, I like the heavy waves. 185 when I have tolerance is a real mood booster without much stone, but that's as low as I go usually. I wish my jars were full so I could test a few things out right now!

 

[Stevenski]

but i would have never thought of using the bag and bubbler together i have half a dozen bags in the cupboard that i dont use since i got used to the whio trail and error.

Welcome to the family Phil . I have tried bag bonging & Vapebags are very good quality with the tapered opening. The issue I have with bag bonging is the level of dilution it has already experienced makes for a poor bong rip unless you are a woman or small child who may also enjoy a shandy. I am a man & as a man I like my bong hits to be thick, rich & as satisfying as possible.

Don't waste your time bag bonging unless you want to try it out & then quickly switch back to whip bonging .

I used to spit up black shit. I don't anymore. Bong smoking is really a fairly unhealthy past time. My intention last year was to replace my tobacco/weed cone smoking habit with a less deadly alternative. Even with the addiction to tobacco, vapour bongs are the perfect solution for me. I find smoking helps with sleep a lot better, but I will receive some other herbs today I'm hoping will fill the gap. Mugwort, Passion flower and valerian which I plan on using in the MFLB or in tea.

And Cucky, I was going to list 155 as a pure taste temp. My EQ sits at 222 pretty much constantly, I like the heavy waves. 185 when I have tolerance is a real mood booster without much stone, but that's as low as I go usually. I wish my jars were full so I could test a few things out right now!

We seem to have had a eerily similar journey Molten. I dedicated myself to vaping last year specifically so I could give up cigarettes as $22-28 a pack was just too much money daily. I tried smoking green bowls but was as satisfying as having a Mars over a Snickers TBH.

My lungs have never felt better & I have lost my hacking cough after years .

I also think I finally have my EQ perfectly dialed in now as it was ripping beautifully on 230c last night & the roasting tube was getting quite warm. I am getting my tube back today so once cleaned properly I will post a pic of my ultimate EQ set up & it is damm sexy if I say so myself .

 

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I used to spit up black shit. I don't anymore. Bong smoking is really a fairly unhealthy past time. My intention last year was to replace my tobacco/weed cone smoking habit with a less deadly alternative. Even with the addiction to tobacco, vapour bongs are the perfect solution for me. I find smoking helps with sleep a lot better, but I will receive some other herbs today I'm hoping will fill the gap. Mugwort, Passion flower and valerian which I plan on using in the MFLB or in tea.

And Cucky, I was going to list 155 as a pure taste temp. My EQ sits at 222 pretty much constantly, I like the heavy waves. 185 when I have tolerance is a real mood booster without much stone, but that's as low as I go usually. I wish my jars were full so I could test a few things out right now!

I do not miss the lung butter. Even during my combustion days, i was trying to come up with a workaround.

Getting taste from 155c is possible just not consistently enough for me to make a habit of it, I've also had invisible fumey vapor at lower temps. Sometimes strong thick fumes that can make you cough if you get too greedy. Since you are trying other plants. those other materials tend to vape at even lower temps to release their actives. Another reason to love your EQ. There is the recent post on the ethnological thread with a few groupings of lists of plants and their desired temps to vape them at. Just a heads up. I've posted in that thread too.