The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

[tomshreds]

I am astounded at the failure rate you have achieved with the Solo Tommy . I have owned a EQ for a few years & it is a great vape for what it is (a relatively inexpensive powerhouse that is hugely versatile).

EQ's don't seem to have a high failure rate that I have heard of. I tend to hear more how XYZ's EQ survived another beating administered. Sure they break but most of the time it is a glass component that is replaceable. Some people have gotten 5+ years with 12+ hours a day run times.

Maintenance is very straight forward. Can you get a small squat 200-300ml glass jar & 3/4 fill it with Iso? Congratulations you now have a maintenance regime for the EQ. I tend to clean my glass once a week & soak my baskets overnight in Iso. I suggest you get a @DDave 18mm kit as if you as going to be vaping at least a 1/2 a week you should swap out your glass once a day in Iso. Cheaper, better & you get much more for your money.

Can't comment on it vs the Volcano except to say the Volcano destroys the EQ when it comes to bags. However if you are smoking an Oz a week you must be bonging & the EQ hooks up to an 18mm F joint out of the box. Crank the temp, rip some hot temp vapour through water & forget about the Volcano

There are a million quirks to the EQ but it does a great job & the 18mm connectivity means you can customize the EQ to suit what you want.

Jump on that deal then hop on Ebay & get a DDave 18mm kit & if you can afford it get a Ddave DBV kit sinc e you are such a heavy user. If you act fast you will get a bonus water pipe adapter as well as all the spare glass you will need for some time .

Glad to hear it's reliable. I don't mind about glass components, I like to keep multiple of them to swap them anyway like you suggested I'm happy to hear maintenance is easy too!

I might sound stupid but I'm not sure what's the use for @DDave stuff is? Is it to plug my bong with the vaporizer together or is it to make the device more efficient?

BTW I just ordered one! Thanks for the specifics, it greatly helped with my choice!

 

[DDave]

Glad to hear it's reliable. I don't mind about glass components, I like to keep multiple of them to swap them anyway like you suggested I'm happy to hear maintenance is easy too!

I might sound stupid but I'm not sure what's the use for @DDave stuff is? Is it to plug my bong with the vaporizer together or is it to make the device more efficient?

BTW I just ordered one! Thanks for the specifics, it greatly helped with my choice!

@Tommy Bergeron ,

No worries, There are no stupid questions here. Questioning has lead many to coming up with modifications, or mods, allowing improvements to be shared for specific vapes or techniques.

You got two of the aspects of the kit right off the bat. Connecting to a water pipe and efficiency. There are more. This thread will help explain. Feel free to come back with feedback, positive or negative, questions and your own discoveries!

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/ddave-mod-new-ddave-mini-mod-kit-for-arizer-eq-vtower-vapes.19018/

 

[CuckFumbustion]

If you are worried about reliability, purchase your EQ new from an authorized dealer. I had to return mine first week due to a bad PCB. However, The replacement EQ has been solid for well over 9 months for me. Arizer has even made some changes with the EQ kit since my last purchase. They continue to make minor upgrades instead of announcing a new product line. Which is why several users have 5+ year machines.

A few people have repaired, modded or taken apart their EQ for cleaning. It can be done. But more seem to break the EQ glass elbows more AmIright?
You will see others here at the thread will say how the @DDave kit has improved their experience.

The Volcano does it's one thing extremely well, But many have sold or shelved their Volcanos as soon as they got bored with just doing bags. EQ is on the other end of the spectrum. Whips, bags or whatever you can connect to an 18mm. I'm getting better performance with each minor change and tweak I make with my setup.

 

[Stevenski]

You will normally find Ddave slutting his way round the forums dispensing likes (he is probably typing a response as I type this as he is quick off the mark).

Congratulations Tommy . You have made the right choice indeed & the EQ family will be mighty proud of a new son & daughter joining us. Now you just need to get the following item to complete your training & unlock the true potential of the EQ

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-DDave-M...449732?hash=item1c5e9d4644:g:2GIAAOSwnipWVNMr

As you will be running large amounts through the EQ I suggest getting a spare roasting tube & some spare baskets to use. You will also get a spare whip with it so it is a great investment for an extra $15 when you look at the price of an Arizer OEM elbow alone.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-DDave-D...842098?hash=item1c5e0aac72:g:k38AAOSwIwhWSl9i

For $45 + freight you would get the following: 2 x roasting tubes (replacing your elbows), 2 x whip to bong adapters (18 or 14mmm), 2 x silicone whips, 6 x baskets, 1 x short adapter, 1 x tall adapter & the rest of the accessories.

Have a look at my post from yesterday & that has my current setup for vapour bonging. A lot of us have a similar set up but you can do it straight out of the box. Instead of the whip mouthpiece just connect the 2nd elbow adapter & insert that into your 18mm bong .

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Glad to hear it's reliable. I don't mind about glass components, I like to keep multiple of them to swap them anyway like you suggested I'm happy to hear maintenance is easy too!

I might sound stupid but I'm not sure what's the use for @DDave stuff is? Is it to plug my bong with the vaporizer together or is it to make the device more efficient?

BTW I just ordered one! Thanks for the specifics, it greatly helped with my choice!

Congrads on your choice. You have an EQ, an FC membership and @DDave's attention. @Stevenski has links in his post for the @DDave kit that is offered on ebay.

The @DDave kit is an EQ modification kit. Pretty much an upgrade for all the stock parts that come with the EQ.
Designed around efficiency and extraction. The glass bowls require less heat, The screens are of a finer mesh and more robust. The wands are straight as opposed to the EQ stock elbows. Plenty of whip tubing and heat tongs! The elbow/tip hats are head and shoulders way better than stock. Love em.
Pretty much the sig that I came up recently, sums up my take on the EQ. the kit and it's users. Let @DDave know what you are looking for.

 

[DDave]

Ddave slutting his way round the forums

dispensing likes

* I can't believe I clicked the Like button on this posting!

(he is probably typing a response as I type this as he is quick off the mark).

Was feeding the dog! So you beat me to the punch on this one!

my current setup for vapour bonging.

And a sweet setup it is! The custom whip covering... looks sharp!

Oh, and watch out for this mad scientist as well! A master at glass bending (mending!) Some of the ideas that come out of his lab scare even me!

Spoiler: Mystery Mad Scientist?

@CuckFumbustion

All jokes aside.... this is an awesome place in which to be a member/contributor!

 

[Stevenski]

Poor @Tommy Bergeron he must think we are like this here. Mad props if you can guess the movie.

 

[Stevenski]

* I can't believe I clicked the Like button on this posting!

I can because as a wise man once said about slutting round forums.......

And a sweet setup it is! The custom whip covering... looks sharp!

The lack of kinkage is probably the single biggest benefit. I cannot emphasize how much this improves the whip. It also has the dual benefit of disguising how dirty the whip is inside & eliminates the whipp feeling "tacky".

 

[Nugg]

@Tommy Bergeron These guys won't steer you wrong. They always have sound advise.

The ddave mod is a must have in my mind.

Welcome to the family.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

And a sweet setup it is! The custom whip covering... looks sharp!

Oh, and watch out for this mad scientist as well! A master at glass bending (mending!) Some of the ideas that come out of his lab scare even me!

@CuckFumbustion
All jokes aside.... this is an awesome place in which to be a member/contributor!

Alright, Maybe more of a master of glass breaking and re-purposing. Because of my mastery, or my lack of mastery of gravity, I have come up with some stupidly clever silicone tubing adapter tricks to resurrect my broken pieces. That stuff is like duct tape for my projects.

Poor @Tommy Bergeron he must think we are like this here. Mad props if you can guess the movie.

Gawd! Either I saw this film or I drempt it. I even remember the "Me too!" guy.

I can because as a wise man once said about slutting round forums.......
The lack of kinkage is probably the single biggest benefit. I cannot emphasize how much this improves the whip. It also has the dual benefit of disguising how dirty the whip is inside & eliminates the whipp feeling "tacky".

Kinkfree I see. Another benefit, I'm guessing is that your tubing will last longer from the less excessive stretching and bending. Perhaps silicone tubing is more prone to breaking down with direct sunlight? another small benefit of black hose.

 

[Pablo13]

Newbie poster here! Had my EQ for a few years now. In that time I have mainly done bags with the Cyclone Bowl, but since I found this place (and thread) I have experimented a bit more with elbow's and the whip and am enjoying learning new things to try. Defo considering the DDave kit at some point

 

[DDave]

Welcome @Pablo13 !

You've definitely come to the right place to discuss the EQ and its mods!

We'd love to hear your story! Especially with a long-lived EQ... share your use and maintenance routine?

Mine has been going over three years strong, on and heated 16+ hours per day. Never let me down!


DDave

 

[tomshreds]

Thanks y'all for everything! You're all a funny bunch of people and I appreciate hanging out on FC a lot!

I can't wait to receive my EQ and start to experiment!

 

[CuckFumbustion]

So many new EQer's, So many Vets. Might as well brush of these topics to help all the new EQers, FCers, and the Vets for their 2 cents.
4 topics here. What is that special screen?, 18mm fittings and the EQ, Straw drawing a 'cap', And lastly How to restore a 'cap' with the mushroom cap method..
It's like an issue of "EQ magazine."

That special screen- To avoid future confusion, this is what I mean to say when I mention these 3 nearly same things, but for clarity's sake.
It's that special screen that goes in the wand or that stock glass elbow.
Tip hat - DDave kit (Generic 18mm fitting.)
Elbow screen - EQ stock screen (Which is not entirely compatible with generic 18mm wand, BTW)
Cap- either/or,nonspecific (Can't keep splitting terms here. Caps fit into my next description of 'the Mushroom cap' mentioned further below in this post.)

18mm and the EQ -18mm generic vs EQ 'conical' 18mm fitting -Not compatible. BTW, I accidentally placed a broken EQ elbow end in a generic F/F. They fused together. That new piece got promoted and is now a 18mm Female whip hose adapter. Don't worry, The EQ unit's own glass 18mm male end works with either type just fine, and my 19mm as well.

Straw draw AKA auto draw. Straw draw is when you use a wand or something wand like, insert a cap and breath the flowers into the cap. Then press gently with the blunt end of the EQ wand. (I have a blunt end of a wooden brush that works as well.) It packs the cap a little different then say filling with a spoon. I do think about how the puck for espresso is formed by a barista and how those particles of bean stack inside the baskets. I figure, if it is easy to breath into the cap, then it should draw about the same in the EQ. Depending on your setup.

I use the Mushroom cap method to restore caps. How do I go about it? Maybe a blunt end of tweezers, nail file or flat metal implement. Hold the ring part of the cap firmly, on it's most outside edge with one hand. Take your implement and place it on one side of the ring and apply a little pressure for balance, extra grip and for some hand work that you are about to do. Have the pointy end touching the opposite part of the mesh wall (at 9:00 if you are right handed, 3:00 if you are left handed ). With the implement balanced on the ring, poke outward on the opposite side wall. Go a little further out than needed. Turn the ring a 1/4 turn. with the same hand placement, do the same poke outward. 1/4 turn, poke, repeat. The top should resemble a mushroom cap a little right? So now place the cap in the elbow or wand you use. If done right, It should be a little difficult. Then with the blunt end of your EQ wand, press inside the cap while it is inside the elbow/wand. Snug caps for at least a while, anyway. I mushroom cap all of my cap in one sitting. The generic caps seem to behave better altogether. But we all have had to rescue our caps from being stuck or falling in the bowl.

Hope this helps.

 

[Pablo13]

Welcome @Pablo13 !

We'd love to hear your story! Especially with a long-lived EQ... share your use and maintenance routine?

Thanks! I'd say its a about 2 years old, but due to space and time constraints I don't always have it out, so its nowhere near your 16hr/day. Never cleaned the unit itself but it doesn't look too bad, took this the other day


Glasswear gets cleaned with hot water, but may try some ISO in the future.

I've also modded one of the cyclone bowls by filling out the glass platform for less restriction.

 

[DDave]

Thanks! I'd say its a about 2 years old, but due to space and time constraints I don't always have it out, so its nowhere near your 16hr/day. Never cleaned the unit itself but it doesn't look too bad, took this the other day


Glasswear gets cleaned with hot water, but may try some ISO in the future.

Nice! Almost looks brand new!

Great feedback! Long-standing debate on whether continued heating (leaving it on) or heat-cycling (turning on and off as needed) takes a greater toll on the unit. It's great to hear yours is doing well from a heat-cycling perspective!

Thanks!

 

[Pablo13]

I'm an on and off kinda guy, defo

 

[CuckFumbustion]

I'm an on and off kinda guy, defo

Welcome to the forum. Used to be an off/on guy. After one incident that had me thinking I might have ruined my EQ, I convinced myself that it works best plugged and primed. Now My EQ is always plugged in. Always have the heater on and preheating the F/F bowl when I'm at home now, until I try something else.

But that debate continues. Should I leave my PC on all day? Hmm... I think I just convinced myself that the EQ is the PC of vapes.
I could conceivably take apart the EQ and upgrade the glass heater cover by it's design. So It's like a computer case. Even how everything is designed to fit together.
The EQ has 2 input devices. One being a remote. Some have integrated their smartphone with their EQ's remote sensor. So you can actually program your EQ. See where I'm going with this? Then theirs things like using a PID controller...... Sorry went mad for a second.

 

[throwawaytre3s]

Shoot guys, I've gotten my DDave mod stuck on my EQ. How should I get it off?

 

[DDave]

Shoot guys, I've gotten my DDave mod stuck on my EQ. How should I get it off?

Don't twist.

Heat up to max. With towel, grip adapter in toweled hand, EQ in other. Gently gently, did I say gently?, rock it while applying pull apart slight pressure.

Do this over a sofa of bed.

If it doesn't work. Let it cool, try same.

Keep heat and cool cycling to see if it will release.

If it does, light coating of beeswax on adapter. Or chapstick, before using again.

 

[Stevenski]

Glasswear gets cleaned with hot water, but may try some ISO in the future.

A small jar of Iso & a bottle in the cupboard are exactly what you need to keep the EQ pristine. Trust me it will make things like new.

I've also modded one of the cyclone bowls by filling out the glass platform for less restriction.

Be careful! It is a slippery slope & you could end up like Cucky in the research lab.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Whew! Glad @DDave stepped with a solution with your glass stuck problem @throwawaytre3s.
Cooling it down entirely and very gentle wiggling seems to work for me. I try to coax it apart as opposed to pulling it apart. Patience over force.

Entirely a YMMV thing. But I haven't had a stuck problem since I went 200c full time. Knock on wood. Used to be a thing I'd experience above 210c on and off. My current setup has been well behaved actually.
Beforehand, I used to panic when the cyclone bowl would get stuck.
Also as I mentioned in the above post, 18mm generic and the EQ stock 18mm parts are not 100% compatible. This might prevent you from any future probs anyway.
Good Luck!

 

[mecker]

Hello fellow vapers!
Any opinions on if the Extreme Q is still a good buy nowadays?
I've had a MFLB for 3-4 years now and it just doesn't fill my need anymore. Even though it made me quit on smoking at first, I can no longer ignore the power of a toke from a spliff vs mflb.

What do you guys say? Would the Extreme Q be a good buy for me? Keep in mind that I wouldn't say no to a cheaper option (nofunds student lol)

keep vaping!
Rúben

 

[Stevenski]

Hi Mecker. I suggest you read the last 5 pages of this thread. You will find there are a few people who were in your position & now they are awaiting their EQ delivery or just having their first date now. I cannot think of a better value desktop for the money asked. The only real competitors in that price range are the HA 2.2 & the DBV. All 3 are great vapes really but everything you seek is in the last 5 pages (including some very pertinent modification information).

 

[mecker]

Thanks for the quick reply Stevenski!

I got to read the last few pages and they did indeed answer most of my questions.
There's still some doubts I have left like how does the amount of herbs you have to pack compare to the MFLB? Can I use hash on the extremeQ? And last but not least, I've read a post in which you say that bags sucks, this was one of the reasons I thought the EQ was superior ( the fact it can do both methods) my questions is if the VTower woulb be a better buy for me?