Kaptan
Well-Known Member
Elevape definitely needs to be stirred.
Discontinued Zion vaporizer
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KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
I never stir Ashton. I know I could, but I don't bother ever. I tried a few times for sure, but what you gain is not worth it IMHO. Whatever I do, I always end so wrecked that I don't need that couple extra puffs. In fact, there are a lot of times where I just toss the bowl without finishing it completely because I feel I'm already way too medicated.
These discussions about temperatures and stirring belong somewhere else.
Isn't having a discussion on these features the point of doing beta testing. Or do u just listen to positive feedback.
Honestly a eco style convection fan attachment in the bowl itself as suggested by Joel W would be a unique feature I'd be willing to pay for. It's frustrating paying for a top end vaporizer and having to mod it immediately.
Isn't having a discussion on these features the point of doing beta testing. Or do u just listen to positive feedback.
Honestly a eco style convection fan attachment in the bowl itself as suggested by Joel W would be a unique feature I'd be willing to pay for. It's frustrating paying for a top end vaporizer and having to mod it immediately.
peterpiper
(peter-ex-piper)
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Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Theyve already been discussed here previosly, with past beta testing. Until the rest of us have new units, there's not much to discuss, just speculate. So that's better for a discussion thread, not a product thread.
And yeah, I mean if you want a fan you buy a fan vape, you don't buy another one and mod it imo... But I don't want a fan or pump vape, no bags for me personally, so I buy other vapes.
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My deal just looks like a fan, it does not turn, but it does redirect air to the outside avoiding center scorch issues...
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Oh yeah, I don't think he meant what you were describing? Seemed like he meant for a bag blower to me, despite namedropping you...
But yeah the new Zion heater layout for production, is in a way to allow that to happen, create a hot air vortex for even heat distribution. Kind of like what the Hopper is doing too, but unsure how they do it there.
This is exactly what I meant have u heard of an eco fan? It's for attaching to a flue or chimney and spins manually using convection currents. Could be used in the bowl to keep the herb constantly rotating. Really hoped the manufacturers knew a little about basic engineering. When vaporizers get to this level ill pay good money for one.
My pet hate with convection is stirring! If someone can invent a convection vape that doesn't need stirring. That person would have my cash in a heartbeat lol.
☝ill take u r money now
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vaporvaper
Well-Known Member
Are you using micro loads, .1 and under? Or does the Zion perform just as good with larger loads, say .3? That would be great!
If yes, then i'll probably use it like you described, no point stirring just for a couple of wispy hits.
MrPeanut
Zion, stealing faces since 2015
If you operate the Zion WNL and per the manual that will be provided combustion is nearly impossible. Now if you try really, really, really hard, ignore the manual and abuse the unit there is a slight chance you can combust. I have 100's of hours on the Zion tech and I can count on one hand how times I combusted and half of them were on purpose with hotter beta units.
@vaporvaper, the screen in the Zion stem can be moved to change the size of the load. You can use a tiny little dusting or wad a great big chunk of unground flower. Stir, don't stir that is personal preference but certainly not required.
@vaporvaper, the screen in the Zion stem can be moved to change the size of the load. You can use a tiny little dusting or wad a great big chunk of unground flower. Stir, don't stir that is personal preference but certainly not required.
vaporvaper
Well-Known Member
Since you didn't quote me properly someone else had to draw my attention to the fact that you are breaking this rule:
- Public discussions of staff decisions are not permitted on the site. If you have any concerns or queries relating to a staff decision please take it up in private with a staff member.
Edric al-Fali
Well-Known Member
With regards to scorching, I kind of assume the heater and airflow issues involve avoiding uneven cooking.
My whole understanding of what is supposed to make the Zion stand out is the fact that it will be designed around power and simplicity. Not just wattage, but a goal of efficiency that effects vapor quality. Reading about all the heater testing that has been going on and airflow issues tells me that there is a very specific goal with regards to vapor quality: that "Zion Quality Vapor."
Other than a water tool, any modding could negatively affect the air flow. Is this accurate?
My whole understanding of what is supposed to make the Zion stand out is the fact that it will be designed around power and simplicity. Not just wattage, but a goal of efficiency that effects vapor quality. Reading about all the heater testing that has been going on and airflow issues tells me that there is a very specific goal with regards to vapor quality: that "Zion Quality Vapor."
Other than a water tool, any modding could negatively affect the air flow. Is this accurate?
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And, erm, this is happening, currently . . .
Just one of the reasons why I love my Zion. Stem vapes are so damn adaptable . . . .
Organic lavender is creamy aromatic & soothing
PeaceLoveUnityRespect.
killick
But I like it!
I'm not a stir person - thats when the load gets changed and the outgoing goes in the ABV bucket anyways, so it's all got a home.
So, if'n any of you Beta Boyz is bored, would someone care to take a quick snap of how much this 'wad a great big chunk of unground flower' is in real life terms? I'd stuff a golf ball in there some days. Last night for example...
@phattpiggie and his sieve screen really has me thinking about a really, really silly project that a couple of friends might enjoy stopping by the ranch to see... It probably won't happen as many of the scenarios end in combustion, some of it quite rapidly... But who knows? Maybe we can see where squateth the toad of truth in the swamp of highdea
@VegNVape Awesome! What temps do you run through with lavender? Or is it all low temp? There's a Lavender Ranch not too far from us. We had some Lavender Tincture that made the most delightful purple margaritas!
So, if'n any of you Beta Boyz is bored, would someone care to take a quick snap of how much this 'wad a great big chunk of unground flower' is in real life terms? I'd stuff a golf ball in there some days. Last night for example...
@phattpiggie and his sieve screen really has me thinking about a really, really silly project that a couple of friends might enjoy stopping by the ranch to see... It probably won't happen as many of the scenarios end in combustion, some of it quite rapidly... But who knows? Maybe we can see where squateth the toad of truth in the swamp of highdea
@VegNVape Awesome! What temps do you run through with lavender? Or is it all low temp? There's a Lavender Ranch not too far from us. We had some Lavender Tincture that made the most delightful purple margaritas!
thekarmawhore
Well-Known Member
Lol dude, just lol!
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
grokit
well-worn member
500-700c? Isn't that more like fission than combustion?
Oh wait that's 100 million kelvin.
Oh wait that's 100 million kelvin.
500-700c? Isn't that more like fission than combustion?
Has it come to this!? I stand by my right to question the level of combustion produced in an unregulated convection heater
Why did they let a 5yo kid do the design using minecraft?
MrPeanut
Zion, stealing faces since 2015
reg·u·late
ˈreɡyəˌlāt/
verb
past tense: regulated; past participle: regulated
ˈreɡyəˌlāt/
verb
past tense: regulated; past participle: regulated
- control or maintain the rate or speed of (a machine or process) so that it operates properly.
Been through this...how do u know the temperature? Therefore the temp is unregulated. U can adjust the wattage manually therefore the power ( not temp) is user regulated
Especially since most testers are using a water attachment u can not even guage the temp manually.
Would be wise for me not to debate this any further as I have been warned by staff. Apologies and am happy to move on from this point iv no objection to this style of vaping
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Copacetic
Somewhere North of The Wall
You tell the temp the same as any other vape which has a dial with which to adjust it.
Carving the Zion has been suggested, and even encouraged.
Perhaps a person concerned that they might combust could carve the temps into the Zion?
I'm gonna put a zero at one extreme, and a mushroom cloud at the other
Carving the Zion has been suggested, and even encouraged.
Perhaps a person concerned that they might combust could carve the temps into the Zion?
I'm gonna put a zero at one extreme, and a mushroom cloud at the other