IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
What's the latest news on the stainless steel travel cases/tubes?
Um... nothing. Or we would have heard in the update. No one here is going to have additional info. When there is info, we will all hear about it.
What's the latest news on the stainless steel travel cases/tubes?
this! thank you, @btka , for the most reasonable post on the entire thread!enough speculation...
also it is normal that people with complaints post their bad experience more often then people who are happy with their gh so the reactions we get here in the forum are biaw3d and not really representative in my opinion...
so enough speculation!
Selection bias is a real thing and you are right that it happens often.
However, that does not explain how someone could be on their fourth unit...especially since @nonbeliever had one that lasted many months then quick fails afterwards for the next three. That speaks to a bigger issue...
@nonbeliever did anything change with your usage habits around the time the first one failed and when you used the next three? Do they offer any explaination as to why these are failing? I would be demanding root cause of failure (not that they are obligated to give it to you...)
The only change in my usage habits since I first received the GH is that I am not using it at all, since it doesn't work. I'd characterize myself as a heavier user, and since a few days after receiving have pretty much only used it at temp setting 5. If I have to meter my usage, the unit is of no value, so that needs to be off the table.
To weigh in further, my report on the problem I had with the second body was the first I've reported any problems - never posting any of the problems I had resulting in replacing the body or multiple clicker back ends. As a business person and entrepreneur, I very much understand the trials and tribulations of startups, both successful and not. HL is of course going to experience growing pains, and as their supporters (I was an IGG backer), we're going to feel those pains.
That said, my experience also allows me to read between the spin, and I believe HL has done themselves a big disservice by over promising repeatedly, and making claims that certainly don't appear consistent with what their community is experiencing. I think they are acting like a company that is financially stretched, and is trying to keep the wheels on so they don't implode. With the body, the first two failures were red lights to black - and I was told the heater malfunctioned. This last body was the blue/red lights of death - which was an early problem that was reported a lot, and they have inferred was fixed over the last number of months. Maybe they are correcting failures with replacements from the older parts remaining, I can't say. I can only report what I am experiencing - which is slower times in them responding to my problems; unit failures at a rate that doesn't seem consistent with their claims, and I ended up canceling a unit I had added to my order at shipment because it was not shipped with my order (although that was one of their promises). I got tired of dates being not met (they kept changing the date my add on order would be shipped same as many others), and I have lost most of my confidence in what they are delivering or even their long term viability. Having game changing technology does not guarantee either success or longevity. You have to be able to deliver and make money. Replacing units 4 times is likely eating into profits, not making one.
One guy posted twice, but yeah, not great to see.I just looked at Reddit and it looks like there are 3 more faulty units over there
This thread has seemed to turn into..."lets post all the broken units and complain" it has totally gone away from the product and how it works. People like myself with working units probably are sick of the bitching and are happy hopper users so they are most likely done with this thread because the negativity is flourishing. There will always be units that malfunction with new companies no matter what the industry. Personally I am done with this thread because my hoppers work better then all my other vapes combined. I will not keep reading about folks pissing and moaning every chance they get. Most of this is probably user error but not worth discussing. Can we start a thread in the lounge or somewhere titled happy hopper users??? Thanks.
good point. I never used the charger I charge them in the haze charger. Huh? Sorry for the negatory outburst gangAt this point its all speculation but a possible cause of failure could be the charger? Maybe there's a problem where some chargers are causing shorts in the GH, which would at least explain why so many users are having repeated failures with new parts, assuming they're using the same charger.
This thread has seemed to turn into..."lets post all the broken units and complain" it has totally gone away from the product and how it works. People like myself with working units probably are sick of the bitching and are happy hopper users so they are most likely done with this thread because the negativity is flourishing. There will always be units that malfunction with new companies no matter what the industry. Personally I am done with this thread because my hoppers work better then all my other vapes combined. I will not keep reading about folks pissing and moaning every chance they get. Most of this is probably user error but not worth discussing. Can we start a thread in the lounge or somewhere titled happy hopper users??? Thanks.
Can we start a thread in the lounge or somewhere titled happy hopper users??? Thanks.
Ive read alot of grasshoppers breaking easily....were they the beta versions or what?
It's kind of stupid how quickly this thread can get pages, I don't feel there are many people who actually own Hoppers contributing and its pretty counter productive especially if you are trying to find useful info.Yes. That was the point of the Indiegogo. If you look at many Kickstarters/IG campaigns you'll notice the first iterations not being that great or actually failing to meet expectations (let alone not coming any time soon). I think its awesome they are actually replacing the broken ones. I've backed other things and too often has the maker failed to properly support his/her product when it breaks but is in progress of shipping to the other promised units. I understand situations occur and these people are just humans. They had an idea but sometimes it ends up being more trouble than it was worth.
It's something to get the item you backed for in your hands, but to actually expect someone to be able to support 20+% of the backers when they needed money to make it in the first place.. Well you better hope they got an extra 20+% of imaginary money to pay for all these unexpected dupli-triplicates.. Or you better hope they are marking you up well and cost ain't as bad as they say.
At this point its all speculation but a possible cause of failure could be the charger? Maybe there's a problem where some chargers are causing shorts in the GH, which would at least explain why so many users are having repeated failures with new parts, assuming they're using the same charger.
doesn't that usually indicate a "dead battery?"Mine stopped working before I first attempted to charge it, unfortunately.
I'm curious. Why/how are your threads getting dirty? Haven't heard this issue before and with the threads being so deep in the mouthpiece I'm just wondering how yours are getting so dirty. Are you using the stick-your-hopper-in-a-vat-of-weed loading method (which I am planning to use once I get mine)?Only issue I've run into is the need to clean the lid daily as the threads become harder to screw in when dirty.
That is one lucky bastard. I can only imagine being given a hopper sight-unseen. Maybe tonight I can dream about it.And seeing he had no idea the hopper was even an option or any knowledge of the delays...
doesn't that usually indicate a "dead battery?"
but seriously, can you please follow up with what hopper labs has told you? surely you've written them and they've responded by now...
I'm curious. Why/how are your threads getting dirty? Haven't heard this issue before and with the threads being so deep in the mouthpiece I'm just wondering how yours are getting so dirty. Are you using the stick-your-hopper-in-a-vat-of-weed loading method (which I am planning to use once I get mine)?