The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

[Seek]

It needs top-notch airpath and heater design to make temperature in a vape independent on draw speed. I can think only of Cloud as this vape. Faster pulling or fan blowing -> Lower temp, less uniformity. I use fast pulls to get the best cloud at the start, then stir and pull slower to finish the load completely.

 

[kingofnull]

I find that when I need to bring the temp down, fan three with no bowl seems to work faster than with no fan. YMMV


are these free bags from Tokeez worth it, or is it better to just get turkey bags in bulk?

http://tokeez.myshopify.com/products/free-vaporizer-bags

 

[oldiebutgoodie]

I find that when I need to bring the temp down, fan three with no bowl seems to work faster than with no fan. YMMV

are these free bags from Tokeez worth it, or is it better to just get turkey bags in bulk?

http://tokeez.myshopify.com/products/free-vaporizer-bags

A friend just received Tokeez bags with his purchase of a new Q. It's 3 ft long. About the same width and 2x length of the Arizer bag. I've used Reynolds turkey bags, IIRC they come in large and xtra-large and I haven't used the xtra's. I suspect though that the xtra-large are approx the same volume as the Arizer bags, just shorter and wider. The oven bags are a little more difficult to get onto the glass piece because, being wider, there is more material to be gathered. But they are the most economical. The Tokeez seems fine as a party bag, or if you're solo and want to get ripped 2-Arizer bags worth - it will take a full bowl to fill that bag, though.

 

[kingofnull]

I typically don't fill bags all the way. I really like the advertisement laden Tokeez, and for free you can't really go wrong. Still, Reynolds bags must be cheaper than the $4.20 shipping on the Tokeez.

I'm loving how even my ABV is now that I use the EQ more, vs primarily using portables.

 

[Kommyknocker]

Well it took the best part of a month but finally finished reading through this whole damned thread as recommended by OBG and Vape4life. Definitely mirror that advice to any other newbie.
Yeah its closing in on 200 pages but tbh you'll become very good at recognizing reoccurring topics and be able to sift through it dismissing stuff you know you've seen.
Thanks FC and all its users for their contributions.
Much love

 

[jeff]

Ahh, so it's just connected via the tubing, no glass mouthpiece.

Is that on your whip or balloon?

So i have a short piece of tube connecting the lil camel bak piece to the glass mouthpiece.

 

[jeff]

well my parts came in a day early! cool! but dont like so sold already! oil rig works better!


above picz are of my oil rig with no leaks now!


heres the one i ordered! nice clouds!

Nas do you like the bag's better with the volcano mod? Is it cloudier? What are you using to connect the easy valve to the cyclone bowl? And what are you using to connect it an 18mm-14mm reducer? Thanks!

 

[jeff]

Welcome .The EQ is very versatile and its I think the best learner unit on the market.so many options.so many tricks to learn.Good luck with youre EQ Andrew


that will be that soft cheese youre putting in there


thats what i thought when worked it out.nice to see you get good results.all thats really needed for for full flow into an easyvalve bag is a 14mm gong and a few orings.the iladelph adapta was made for vape bonging bags away from the volcano and is way to tight to allow removal of a full bag from the EQ.I thought shit.... ok i ll flip it over,Go Figure!,It works much better and I like seeing my EQ with a 10inch boner bag

Are you finding the bag is filling much quicker compared to the stock EQ bag setup?

check out these designer bad boys free Volcano bags ($4 shipped)or these Girls when you run out of bags.

this chick shows how to recycle.

How come in your e-cano mod you don't use the cyclone bowl?

 

[kingofnull]

So i have a short piece of tube connecting the lil camel bak piece to the glass mouthpiece.

Ahh I'll have to try that when I get some more tubing.

 

[pakalolo]

Well it took the best part of a month but finally finished reading through this whole damned thread as recommended by OBG and Vape4life. Definitely mirror that advice to any other newbie.
Yeah its closing in on 200 pages but tbh you'll become very good at recognizing reoccurring topics and be able to sift through it dismissing stuff you know you've seen.
Thanks FC and all its users for their contributions.
Much love

Not to ruin your day or anything, but...

The Extreme Vaporizer Thread Part II
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-extreme-vaporizer-thread-part-ii.28/

 

[jeff]

Ahh I'll have to try that when I get some more tubing.

You put it on after the fill

 

[Kommyknocker]

@pakalolo Christ almighty heehee.. oh well I do like to read.

 

[NaS71]

Nas do you like the bag's better with the volcano mod? Is it cloudier? What are you using to connect the easy valve to the cyclone bowl? And what are you using to connect it an 18mm-14mm reducer? Thanks!

yeah it works great! you just need to get several orings so it dont leak! Im using 14mm to 18mm male adapter that goes on a oil rig! slides on and off better than the illadelph adapter! in the works on maken a better on but til now i recomend using this mod with a little tweaking she works great! get nice thick bags! can still do elbow rips! and the best thing is the easy valve! I luv my E Quano

 

[u bwade wunner]

How come in your e-cano mod you don't use the cyclone bowl?

The idea behind the FF adapter was to provide a shorter airpath to the easyvalve bag.I ordered it with another piece from ALT so I kinda just thought why not.I'm a sucker for glass adapters.The adapter provides a lower profile too, thats about it.The standard cyclone bowl will do exactly the same job.

The next stage is to see how the fan will operate with a Cloud elb directly above the heat element of the EQ.If you look at the EQ mod (click on E Cano in my Sig) and imagine a longer heater cover with a Elb bowl in there and the fan forcing EQ heat through the mix.that is what I m looking at.

cloud elbs arrived this morning 4 of them.I have ordered a longer 18mm heater cover to allow me to use the elb directly above the eq element.In the meantime I can use elbow packs with cloud elb bowls to test the fan running through a full elb bowl.They fit the EQ elbow perfectly and allow decent size loads with all the advantages of an elbow pack.they are $20 for 4 off the Vapexhale website.

here is a Cloud elb screen in an Eq elbow,which will give you an idea of depth fit and usage.I plan to use these with the easyvalve mod and their only in the elbow for testing. They are 1 inch deep or so and the same diameter as the EQ elbow screen.They also have a lid so you dont have to worry about spillage into the Cyclone.although if you d ont blow back on the whip it should nt happen anyway.
The screens are a little tight in the beginning.After a few pushes in and out the mesh screen loosens and will slide in and out real easy!.I have heard about cloud owners having similar issues with new screens in the cloud heater gong.They loosen with usage.A bit like ourselves

 

[Kommyknocker]

Looks pretty cool but aren't you still gonna be plagued by THAT hot spot? Although thinking about it the extra volume will mean the amount of herb targeted within the tube of hot air would've been equivalent of an entire normal sized elbow. Man that'd hit big.

 

[u bwade wunner]

aren't you still gonna be plagued by THAT hot spot?

No hot spots at all even 10mm above the element which is where the elbow screen sits.more surface area means more even abv. youre temps do need to be lower because you ve moved the material closer to the heat source.Saying that,the EQ thermostat works very well at controlling the temperature if the heat in the airpath spikes suddenly below the material.Thats the first thing i checked when i started looking into modding the EQ.

l think the EQ has a great heat element.Its the width of an 18mm gong tube and maybe 3 inchs long with just enough room for air to pass over it.I get dark brown abv and two decent size bags from one elbow screen.No stirring ever.

Now i cant say Jack about the elb till Ive tested.It s like owning a new vape.i need a bit more time but I figure If the fan can blow through a loose packed cyclone,It wont have an issue blowing through a loose packed elb.What I m trying to figure out is how an elb elbow pack might work out.what makes the elbow pack so powerful is the air surging through a tighter pack which causes the vapor to ploom more.Time will tell.I m hoping an elb elbow pack plooms goodwill update when I test the elb and bag together.

Anyone interested in similar vape tech,The epicvape uses a similar screen set up as the cloud and the EQ

Options are always good

 

[Ontariovapes]

@u bwade wunner. Where did you source the extra long 18 mm heater cover? I'd like to try this myself. Thanks for the great info.

 

[bwright1128]

So my extreme q just came in the mail, Im so excited to hook this thing up and use it however I unfortunately have to wait till around 5, anyone have any tips for a new user? In the mean time heres a pic of her beside my new pax as well! Cant deny they look pretty good together

 

[kingofnull]

Read through this thread if you haven't. I prefer elbow packing as I can use less per session. Upgrade to silicon tubing asap!

 

[oldiebutgoodie]

. . . Now i cant say Jack about the elb till Ive tested.It s like owning a new vape.i need a bit more time but I figure If the fan can blow through a loose packed cyclone,It wont have an issue blowing through a loose packed elb.What I m trying to figure out is how an elb elbow pack might work out.what makes the elbow pack so powerful is the air surging through a tighter pack which causes the vapor to ploom more.Time will tell.I m hoping an elb elbow pack plooms good will update when I test the elb and bag together.

Fwiw . . . I've used the ELB (I have a Cloud) with my Q. Whip and with the HydraTube, plus a bit of experimenting with the bag. The design intent with the Q's elbow screen (besides being a screen) is to create slight back-pressure into the bowl, enough to cause the "cyclone effect". Similarly, the ELB is designed to create turbulence; the herb is definitely not packed. The ELB is also intended for the much larger air path of the Cloud in comparison to the Q. The narrower path in the Q is what causes the hot spot in an elbow pack. If you pack an ELB as tightly as elbow-packing, I suspect you won't get much air flow even with Fan 3: In my test with .2g medium-shred in the ELB using F3 the fill rate was about the same or maybe even a little less than the standard Q cyclone method. If F3 can't sufficiently push thru the pack, you will get back-pressure into the Q which can stress the fan. Maximum vapor production might be achieved by getting the ELB's turbulence feature working with the Q (if that's possible), which suggests using ~.2-.3g (.3g is about 80%, or up to the cap) gently filled.

As an aside, the ELB is also designed to create lower pressure inside, enabling comparatively less heat for the same result (i.e., the boiling point is lowered). Accordingly, it might be worth experimenting with a lower temp setting on the Q (all other things being equal).

 

[jeff]

yeah it works great! you just need to get several orings so it dont leak! Im using 14mm to 18mm male adapter that goes on a oil rig! slides on and off better than the illadelph adapter! in the works on maken a better on but til now i recomend using this mod with a little tweaking she works great! get nice thick bags! can still do elbow rips! and the best thing is the easy valve! I luv my E Quano

I see one of the elbow screens in there. You using the cyclone bowl with the elbow pack on the mod?

 

[u bwade wunner]

Where did you source the extra long 18 mm heater cover?

Contact Planetvape.Its a custom glassblower job they took on board.they seemed interested and offered friendly advice.They think it will work well.I have had numerous updates on the status of my order.I haven t chased them once for updates.

oldiebutgoodie. thanks for your e advice.It should be an interesting weekend testing

bwright1128 Love the new midnight chrome.looks like it came straight from the batman set.

 

[NoNo]

I have been the owner of the Extreme Q vaporizer for half a year now. It was all fun and games until one day I smelled weird plastic smell coming from it. I decided to dissasemble it and check where the problem was. I opened the plastic heater chamber and nothing seemed melted at first but then I noticed this rectangular plastic piece tucked beetwen the wires of the heater element. So much for the "all glass airpath". This piece is visibly melted on the top (where it goes into the ceramic heater element). Now with piece removed and 2 hour burnout period on 260C, vaporizer does not smell anymore. Anyone with the same experience? Why was this plastic piece there tucked into the heater. What is its function. I hope I haven't done any damage to myself inhaling plastic fumes.

 

[newVaper420]

I have found that it's not worth it to clean the stock tubing. First of all it's quite difficult to remove from the glass pieces without much effort and/or using a razor blade.

IMO replacement tubing is the way to go. Not only does it go on and off easier, but it's pliable and fairly inexpensive. I get this stuff and it works very well.

Stu, I have finally ordered this tubing, the exact link you sent :-). I have been on hiatus from my EQ due to the Cloud, but can't wait to get the new tubing. At least now I should have everything I need.

I haven't changed my original tubing yet, any recommendations on how often I need to change the tubing?

I finally have everything I need I think LOL.

 

[kingofnull]

Stu, I have finally ordered this tubing, the exact link you sent :-). I have been on hiatus from my EQ due to the Cloud, but can't wait to get the new tubing. At least now I should have everything I need.

I haven't changed my original tubing yet, any recommendations on how often I need to change the tubing?

I finally have everything I need I think LOL.

Personal preference when you change the tubing. I usually clean out my elbows of honey at the same time as I change tubing. AFAIK you can clean silicone tubing in a water/alcohol solution so long as you don't leave it for extended periods of time. Just buy an extra length of tubing so you can swap while you clean.