BabyFacedFinster
Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
Yep, I'll go the safer route.
Looking forward to giving this vape a go.
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Looking forward to giving this vape a go.
Thanks
The Arizer Air
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DramaLV
Active Member
as they told me i would i love mine, havent put it down since i got it (or combusted) sure the same will go for you.
OF
Well-Known Member
We're not going to ask you what you've been holding in your other hand all that time........it's just not that kind of Forum you see......
Glad you found happiness at any rate.
OF
essie1
Member
Hi,
Does anyone know if POV is selling the air with modified oven for better airflow? http://www.planetofthevapes.com/products/arizer-air
The puffitup 155 deal + wpa is not available anymore.
Does anyone know if POV is selling the air with modified oven for better airflow? http://www.planetofthevapes.com/products/arizer-air
The puffitup 155 deal + wpa is not available anymore.
GetLeft
Well-Known Member
This is where I got mine some time ago. Not sure if they have the modified oven version but their customer service is up to snuff so a quick call should get an answer. And the price doesn't get better. It's been holding there for as long as I've known of the place.
https://www.allstarvape.com/products/portable-devices/arizer/arizer-air--free-grinder?p=1653
I got my black AA from POV 3 months ago with the new oven. They shipped out super duper fast no issues. At the time, only black AA's had the new oven.
I also helped a friend FC, and we ordered from PIU. While I was in touch with them they mentioned that they finally have new ovens for different color AA's. Just be sure to add a note in your order to make sure you get one.
I would totally order again from either PIU or POV - both are reliable trustworthy sources, have great customer service and ship out super fast. For me, at the time of each order, it came down to what other items I was interested in and what they stocked
In my experience, The bundled grinder from POV is superior to the bundled PIU grinder - a secondary factor if you have a good one already. POV's bundled tightVac is also nice to have. When I ordered from PIU, they had Dynavap VapCaps in stock which I really wanted to try. I think they compliment the AA really well. I equate AA to sipping a super delicious and wonderfully aromatic cup of hot tea - a lovely experience, but takes some time. VapCap is like a shot of espresso
I love both.
DramaLV
Active Member
actually how im spending my lunch break right now
of course when i got it i started at red then moved to green which most of you seem to like but now im trying the idea of sticking at blue or white range...figure itll help my one battery last longer till my others come plus give me better abv.
nickdanger
Collector of Functional Art
What I llike to do with my Air is start at the lowest temp (blue) and take a few hits, then ramp it up over the temps, taking 2-3 hits on each. I can get at least two sessions out of my Air this way -- one on the lower temps and then one on high to finish the bowl. If I do a few hits on the red at the end, my AVB is fairly dark, but still fairly potent.
nickdanger
Collector of Functional Art
I think it is possible if your tolerance is extremely low, but I've never tried just one color - might have to try it. I never get huge clouds on the 2 lowest settings, but the effect is still there. If you decide to try it, it is best to remove the stem and put the cap on it so it does not continue to cook.
OF
Well-Known Member
I could be, but that depends hugely on you. What you need by was of dose, how much you put in in terms of potency and how skillfully you extract it (mostly not taking more than needed I think. As a group this varies a LOT. We have a guy that uses a gram a month......yes, one gram, 30 days. We also have a guy that rolls 7 gram blunts and kills them in a single session.
A full stem is maybe 1/4 gram (250 mg). If it's very potent, say 20%, there's 50 mg of THC available, we can get most of that but will leave some behind. If 10 mg is enough for your needs (IMO highly unlikely from a MMJ POV) you can hope for five sessions?
Air is not magic, it's very good (meaning it wastes little) but like so much in life you have to put it in to get it out.
FWIW, I think most folks end up getting two session from a fill? 5 is probably wishful thinking.
OF
JoeKickass
Well-Known Member
You can't have a too powerful cell, 1,000,000 mAh is ok. But there's nothing special about the Arizer cell, like the others say, it's a known quantity. It's not the best. So I just ignore the warranty warning, you ship them the unit empty if you need service anyway.
Besides, the world of 18650's is too rich and diverse to ignore! This cell is used in the best flashlights, electric cars, and most powerful ecigs. Just don't buy an off-brand Chinese one with a big mAh label.
Here are some of the top modern 18650 cells:
LG HG2 - Good capacity for very high drain applications
Samsung 25R - OK capacity for very high drain applications. (Designed specifically for EV's)
Samsung 30Q - Good capacity for very high drain applications.
Panasonic B - Very good capacity for medium drain applications. (Fine for Air)
Panasonic PF - Good capacity for high drain applications.
Sanyo (Panasonic) GA - Very good capacity for high drain applications. (My favorite!)
The Arizer Air draws only 3A, a fairly low drain, look for the "1C" line in most discharge graphs.Samsung 25R - OK capacity for very high drain applications. (Designed specifically for EV's)
Samsung 30Q - Good capacity for very high drain applications.
Panasonic B - Very good capacity for medium drain applications. (Fine for Air)
Panasonic PF - Good capacity for high drain applications.
Sanyo (Panasonic) GA - Very good capacity for high drain applications. (My favorite!)
EDIT: My Air measures 3A, others might be up to 5A, but still fine for these cells. Once fully heated, I measure the Air only draws 1A.
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OF
Well-Known Member
Are you sure? The one I measured early on was closer to 5 Amps, which 'fits' with 2.5 Amps for Solo (which has twice the voltage so needs half the current for the same power). Did you actually measure 3 Amps? Likewise, 1C rate is the one hour number. A 2500mAh cell, like we're likely to be using, will have to supply about 2C when heating. Therefore you can expect 1/2 hour of heating time from a 2.5Ah cell. Since the duty cycle (ratio of on time to total) is about 50% this means about an hour of run time, 4 or 5 average sessions? At 3 Amps it would be about twice as long? Anyone getting 8 or 9 sessions per charge?
There are lots of usable cells out there, but I don't want to be the one to encourage dishonesty WRT the warranty. We have a reasonably priced option, known to work well and comply with the warranty. No risks for at most a few dollars more.
Our very own Centizen did a lot of research on various cells available when Air first came out. He determined the factory cell was the best available for this specific application and imported batches of them from the maker that supplies Arizer for that reason. And Centizen is wise, IMO. He knows his stuff as they say.
I have a LOT of 18650s around as you might imagine, I bought (2) official factory spares for my Airs. There is some chance of getting a sub par cell unless you stick with the official version. Even following the best advice you 'read on the web'. Your call, but to me saving a few bucks is false economy here?
Each owner gets to make his own call, but IMO it's not right to encourage others to violate the warranty and not own up to it. That should be the owners decision I think, and it should be an informed one.
Regards to all.
OF
OF
Well-Known Member
Careful there, wishful thinking often leads to dreams. And dreams are what get us outside the box as a society, clearly worth considerable risk. And for sure wishful thinking and vision are what drives those dream born ideas into being...... New stuff in the marketplace? Yeah!!! Wishful thinking can be a good thing.......
The differences in extracted fractions as you vape a load more and more is a fun topic I think, and very useful to many of us MMJ types. For us, sometimes taste becomes secondary when 'taking your medicine' is the order of the day. I collect 'partially used ABV' for emergency times when couch lock is a minimum requirement. It takes bigger loads and tastes 'muddy' at best of course but 'the heavy stuff' will do it's job when called upon. Very reassuring. Likewise, having a stash of high CBD herb is a Godsend when the need to function socially collides with the need to medicate to function otherwise. I can usually find 'just enough' to keep the medical need covered this way. I even have a couple of grams of now long gone high CBD CO2 oil stashed in an inconvenient location. Very handy stuff, when the source dried up (never to return it seems), I stashed half of what I had left. Knock wood, in the last couple of years I haven't needed to dip into it, but having selected fractions available can be very useful (and fun) IMO.
BTW, Air (and Solo) can be a good tool for experimenting with this since you can instantly stop/cool the load by pulling the stem. The hottest part of the system (the metal cup) is not 'too hot' so the stem simply shuts down nearly instantly as it cools.
OF
GetLeft
Well-Known Member
Always a good thing when OF is active in these parts.
It's easy to get eager and jump straight to a higher temp, especially when you know the goods will be effectively administered, and fairly quickly. I'm not at all immune to those opportunities. But a single hit or two on blue have their niche too. As does an entire session. Different temp levels, different packs, different session lengths... This is a versatile vaporizer with great portability.
It's easy to get eager and jump straight to a higher temp, especially when you know the goods will be effectively administered, and fairly quickly. I'm not at all immune to those opportunities. But a single hit or two on blue have their niche too. As does an entire session. Different temp levels, different packs, different session lengths... This is a versatile vaporizer with great portability.
JoeKickass
Well-Known Member
Yup here's my proof, can you post a photo? I'll probably buy a new model if they heat faster!
But even 5 amps is fine for all the cells I listed.
My Air is 2 years old, it is a common misconception to think battery technology evolves that slowly. Back in 2014 the best 18650 for the Air was the Panasonic B, the longer lasting GA model wasn't released until 2015. This is the massive strength of the 18650 power source, it's always at the cutting edge.
Also the cost is irrelevant. I'm talking about performance. Being able to medicate or not when you forget extra batts. Being able to run cells for years and years. This is the best portable vape IMO, I keep coming back to it and I've tried too many vapes, I want to know it has the best power source.
Highest I've seen:
Normal heating full blast:
At temp, where you spend the vast majority of the time, do you measure the same OF?
essie1
Member
DramaLV
Active Member
as soon as i got my air i put the sleeve on it. its starting to get cold in vegas and i figured it would help hold in some heat with the holes at the top covered. the restricted airflow i was getting i just assumed was what i had been reading about. this morning i took the sleeve off and was amazed even more with the air.
only problem is now with the sleeve off ot feels to slick and i can predict a drop soon if i try to leave it like this. are there any sleeves with the air holes cut out? might just have to cut the top part off the sleeve it came with but didnt no if i would regret it later.
only problem is now with the sleeve off ot feels to slick and i can predict a drop soon if i try to leave it like this. are there any sleeves with the air holes cut out? might just have to cut the top part off the sleeve it came with but didnt no if i would regret it later.
OF
Well-Known Member
Yes, both have been done.....go figure. A couple of guys did a real tidy job of making holes, some got good results with more crude attempts. Several of us went with the 'cut the top off' plan. I ended up with two bands, each maybe two inches long, cut from one cover. That worked well for grip and didn't interfere with normal operation and battery changes.
A rubber band or two wrapped around the body does the same thing. Solo, with the undercut flats, seems to be harder to drop even though heavier.
Eventually I learned to hang onto it and resist gravity, I've stopped using them and have yet to drop an Air even once.
OF
essie1
Member
After a couple of weeks hanging around here on FC, I decided today to buy the Arizer Air in the beautiful Titanium color which fits great with my favorite nail polish 
I was considering the Air or the Davinci IQ. The latest Air version with modified oven was the winner for me. The AA has proven it selves already. I like the combined convection/conduction way of heating and easy way to clean. I've contacted Jake from PIU and he gave me the Black Friday price today :-) Only today and that saved me some bucks 
This is my 2nd vaporizer from this awesome company. The other vape I use, is the Arizer V Tower, another Arizer quality product. The Air will give me some more freedom using my medication 
around the house.
The only thing I have to figure out, is if I can use the genuine top rated LG HG2 3000Mah or Samsung 25R5 2500Mah batteries in this unit. Or maybe a 3300 or 3500Mah genuine version. I use low temps and I think more Mah = more sessions before I have to charge again, isn't it? I also gonna grab a D2 Nitecore charger.
I saw so many happy AA users here! In a few days I wil receive mine
Waiting mode ....
I was considering the Air or the Davinci IQ. The latest Air version with modified oven was the winner for me. The AA has proven it selves already. I like the combined convection/conduction way of heating and easy way to clean. I've contacted Jake from PIU and he gave me the Black Friday price today :-) Only today and that saved me some bucks This is my 2nd vaporizer from this awesome company. The other vape I use, is the Arizer V Tower, another Arizer quality product. The Air will give me some more freedom using my medication around the house.The only thing I have to figure out, is if I can use the genuine top rated LG HG2 3000Mah or Samsung 25R5 2500Mah batteries in this unit. Or maybe a 3300 or 3500Mah genuine version. I use low temps and I think more Mah = more sessions before I have to charge again, isn't it? I also gonna grab a D2 Nitecore charger.
I saw so many happy AA users here! In a few days I wil receive mine
Waiting mode ....
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Jimiblues
Well-Known Member
After 5 firefly repairs firefly emailed me that they don't have the part to repair it so VapeWorld has offered to give me credit. So I opted for the air in silver. After the nightmare of the firefly(it was broken more than it worked) I need a reliable and durable vape. I was wondering to those heavy vaporists...does the air hold up as an all day vape..is the ceramic oven reliable? I chose the air because it looks simple and I like the replaceable 18650 battery.
OF
Well-Known Member
As far as we know, nobody has had an oven failure with Air......that part is extremely reliable (as is the rest of the unit). Then again, the same can be said of the Solo, which has been out in service many more years.
At least I don't recall a report of oven failure in service in either thread.
They hold up extremely well compared to other vapes, not to worry.
And FWIW it's not ceramic, it's SS and plastic.
Use it in good health.
OF