Zepto| The World's First Credit Card Vaporizer

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I take it there is no prototype because this is the very early development phase. It's very interesting but too much hype and too long of a waiting period can be very discouraging. The Grasshopper thread has been frustrating so say the least.

I thought that the crowd funding wasn't going to accept anything that would be considered something to use with cannabis? Am I wrong about that?
 

FlyingLow

Team NO SLEEP!
Must see vids and testimonials before showing any enthusiasm for this... seen too much crappy vapes come to market in pretty packages with great marketing programs [often exaggerated and incorrect] that fail to be anything more than a sleek looking paperweight.

I would enjoy being proven wrong on this one, but IMO it reads as if it was simply created on the desk of a marketing director, not a vaporist.
 

IAmKrazy2

Darth Vapor
I feel this thread and manufacter is starting off on the wrong foot by making the outright claim this is the worlds smallest vape. It isn't and FC is too smart a community to believe all the rhetoric. The VapCap is smaller for sure, among many other oil vapes. Worlds thinnest vape, probably. Only vape that would fit in your wallet? Probably. World smallest? Nope.

Aren't all conduction oil pens similar size to this model just a different shape?
 

lwien

Well-Known Member
I feel this thread and manufacter is starting off on the wrong foot by making the outright claim this is the worlds smallest vape. It isn't and FC is too smart a community to believe all the rhetoric. The VapCap is smaller for sure, among many other oil vapes. Worlds thinnest vape, probably. Only vape that would fit in your wallet? Probably. World smallest? Nope.

Like most everything else, it all depends on "how" you look at it, eh?
 

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
Seems the FC community as a whole tends to prefer humble approaches from manufacturers. Anyone coming with big claims and worse when those claims are borderline bold instantly comes under heavy scrutiny and near hostile reactions. Without wanting to stir the shit, the bold claims (mostly 3h battery life) made during the GH crowdfunding campaign led to so many talks and tensions... The thread became toxic in no time when the delays began to grow out of proportions...

Anyway I'm drifting out of topic, let's give them the benefit of the doubt and try to steer them in the right market direction (ie what we really want) They come here for feedback, let's hope they are open to it and ready to make the appropriate changes to suit us!
 

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
Seems the FC community as a whole tends to prefer humble approaches from manufacturers. Anyone coming with big claims and worse when those claims are borderline bold instantly comes under heavy scrutiny and near hostile reactions. Without wanting to stir the shit, the bold claims (mostly 3h battery life) made during the GH crowdfunding campaign led to so many talks and tensions... The thread became toxic in no time when the delays began to grow out of proportions...

Anyway I'm drifting out of topic, let's give them the benefit of the doubt and try to steer them in the right market direction (ie what we really want) They come here for feedback, let's hope they are open to it and ready to make the appropriate changes to suit us!
If the kitchen gets too hot, say goodbye to the cooks... it has always been thus ...lesson learned???
 

virtualpurple

Well-Known Member
If the kitchen gets too hot, say goodbye to the cooks... it has always been thus ...lesson learned???


Whole lotta truth right there.

This vape could prove very interesting, it could also only amount to a novelty.

Anymore I try not to get excited at all about a vape until there's at least a working prototype.

A vape that can fit in my wallet is an interesting idea, but if it has a short-lived battery and has to spend as much time on the charger as it does off then my interest will fade pretty quick.

For me performance, efficiency, and taste are important qualities. I wish you folks well with your funding and development, and I would encourage you look at the Zion thread and take an approach similar to @RastaBuddhaTao and @thekarmawhore;

-Establish a solid beta crew of experienced vaporists. A good crew of thorough testers is like the Avengers of the vaping world.

-Provide regular, periodic updates about your progress. We're a fickle crowd but manufacturers with a consistent board presence tend to establish a pretty loyal following here and tend to have more positive threads.

-We love optimism, but we crave realism. Whether it's projected release dates or battery life claims I would much rather have a conservative answer that I can hang my hat on instead of a fingers-crossed, best-case-scenario projection.

Look forward to future updates!

VP
 

smutman

SmutmanMDCXX
Who wants to bet the shape of this vape will have drastically changed and their claims too when the first users will get them in 2 or 3 years?
I bet this never sees the light of day to be honest. I'd like to see it and use it one day but reality tells me it won't come out or if it does, there will be something better like it already out. Good luck.
 
smutman,

°k

The sound of vapor
According to their posts, the prototype has already been developed, so they are ahead of the curve there.

According to their post a prototype is on its way!

I'd say it makes a difference, one thing to their credit on this though, they're being honest and say prototype, no innuendo of any sort about the product potentially being ready for production.

Correction: implying that delivery is planned for early 2016 could be misleading on that respect in fact....
 
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VapinVentor

Where vaporizers are re-invented!
Manufacturer
PART (1) of 2
Hey everyone, sorry for not being active since last week; we were experiencing some technical difficulties with accessing our account, problems that even the moderators couldn’t explain. But we are back and ready to answer all of your questions!

So to begin with, we may have started off on the wrong foot; we are new to the forum and aren't really familiar with the rules and the FC community. To level with everyone, we are just a couple of college students who believe we have a great idea. We love vaping and want to create something unique in the industry. We put a lot of work into creating Zepto, down to the name and all the little details. So being that we invested ourselves so much into this project, we wanted to come in with a bang and really blow people away, not realizing that we are overbearing with the “hype”. We were just very excited about zepto and wanted FC’s users to be too! We really just came on here to get some honest feedback from the FC community and in hopes of generating some interest!

We realize that titling it the smallest vape doesn’t sound as genuine to you guys as it does to us. But in reality there is no other vaporizer out there that has the shape of a credit card and that can fit directly into your wallet or any other nook and cranny for that matter. What truly allows us to make the claim that we are the smallest is that Zepto measures in at 4.5 mm’s (0.177 inches) thin. It's fair for us to say Zepto is an extremely small vaporizing device. Especially when taking into account that we are implementing wireless charging, touch activation, interchangeable heating elements, easy clean airways and more; that is a whole lot of features in one device, a device that is less than a quarter of an inch thick. We think that's a lot more than any other “small vape” has to offer. And these are not just claims; we have been through extensive engineering to make sure that these features are going to be in Zepto! Again the engineering is complete!

Various vape pens, e-cigarettes and industry giants like g-pen do have small vaporizers. They may all be portable in the sense that you can fit it in your pocket, maybe, if there’s enough room between all the other stuff in your pockets. But they don't possess the true convenience that we designed Zepto for. In addition, I know when I leave the house I have my 3 essentials on me; my phone, wallet and keys. I realized that I tap my pockets countless times throughout my day making sure that I have everything with me and haven't lost anything, so adding another loose item to the list doesn’t simplify things!

With Zepto, we really wanted to make this vaporizer seamlessly integrate into your life; we want it to fit into your daily essentials! This way you know you have your vape, without having to think about it. Plus you have one less thing to be conscious of when on the go! You will never have to think about grabbing your vape before going out, therefore forgetting your vape is a thing of the past!

We'd also like to mention that the worlds smallest vaporizer is a working title, its open to change. Let us know if you have other ideas. We would love to hear them! But I don't know how much we can do about the current thread title.


With that said now we can now address some of your questions and pointers!

All the non-electronic vapes like the ubie and vapcap aren’t self powered, which means you need to carry a lighter along with you when you're on the go. The lighter contributes to the overall carry weight and overall dimensions, without that lighter you just have a nice tube.

To address draw/airflow -
How is the air flow? I assume it has a restricted draw and is meant more for "sipping" than big hits.
So actually with Zepto’s sliding mechanism you have the option of the amount of airflow you want. When Zepto’s sliding mechanism is closed you get a relatively restricted draw. But if you open the mechanism to where the atomizer is exposed you can get a lot more airflow and you can control your preference of airflow depending on how far you open or close the slider! (Zepto is originally intended to be used with the slider closed though, but it comes down to user preference)

Does Zepto get hot (thermal insulation)-

We have incorporated as much thermal insulation as possible to prevent the heat from conducting to the rest of the device. Just like with any vape it may get warm around the atomizer after excessive use. Otherwise it should be fine. We will be doing rigorous testing on the prototype so we will put up videos and keep you in the loop!

Will zepto be safe in the wallet-

Originally Zepto was going to be made out of a high grade aluminum, but now we are leaning towards steel. It's a very durable metal and will withstand practically anything you do with your zepto vaporizer. So rest assured zepto will be fine in your wallet.


P.S. We are unveiling the Clear Glass Heating Element On Monday So we hope everyone is excited !

Get more info and get to know us a little better on our New website http://www.vapinventors.com/

We hope you like it!


Respectfully,

Vapinventors

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lwien

Well-Known Member
To level with everyone, we are just a couple of college students who believe we have a great idea.

Keep leveling with us 'cause our "non-leveling radar" has been tweeted for maximum effectiveness.

Again the engineering is complete!

Ya better knock on wood on that statement.

All the non-electronic vapes like the ubie and vapcap aren’t self powered, which means you need to carry a lighter along with you when you're on the go. The lighter contributes to the overall carry weight and overall dimensions, without that lighter you just have a nice tube.

Great point. :clap:

it may get warm around the atomizer after excessive use.

Define excessive use. Ya gotta be specific around here at FC.

Originally Zepto was going to be made out of a high grade aluminum, but now we are leaning towards steel. It's a very durable metal and will withstand practically anything you do with your zepto vaporizer. So rest assured zepto will be fine in your wallet.

Many people carry their wallets in their back pocket which they sit on. Two things to consider here. One, is that it is strong enough not to break in that scenario and two, that it not only fits in a wallet, but that it's comfortable when sitting on it and doesn't do any damage to the wallet, your pocket or ........our cheeks. ;)
 

thekarmawhore

Well-Known Member
In the real world of engineering, having a prototype on the way means most of the engineering you think you have finished is all about to change. Do they teach the old engineering adage 'it's the last 5% of the work that takes 90% of the time?' It's pretty accurate actually.

Good luck to you guys, it is not easy to bring a product to market that is for sure!
 

VapinVentor

Where vaporizers are re-invented!
Manufacturer
Part (2) of 2
This response is regarding those who are doubtful of our claims, our release date, and Zepto overall. We understand that the FC community has come across previous vape start-ups that have made far-fetched claims yet failed to live up to them. We were among those people that have been disappointed, and we definitely do not want to be that kind of start-up. So before we came to FC we made sure that the engineering was complete in order for us to be able to make all these claims and know that they can be backed up by the engineering.

I'd like to see it and use it one day but reality tells me it won't come out or if it does, there will be something better like it already out.

Plus, we have a patent pending on the design of Zepto. So if anyone decides they want to make it, we will take legal action faster than you can say Zepto. ;)

Zepto is 100% engineered so there will be no drastic changes to production model. But just like with any other prototype there will be minor bugs, and once we have it in our hands we can make minor tweaks to perfect it. Zepto was designed to be manufacturable, so it's basically ready to be manufactured once we get the funding we need for the first manufacturing run!

What we mean by Zepto was designed to be manufacturable, is that we've taken into consideration that this product is going to be mass produced so we tried to limit the amount of parts so that Zepto can be assembled efficiently on a manufacturable scale. We are aware of the common mistake of other products that have been fully designed and engineered, but the problem is that they weren't designed and engineered for manufacturability, which leads to many hiccups and delays in bringing the product to market; and in some cases it has to be re-engineered for manufacturability.


As for the E-liquid and Dry herb models, we are working on getting them up ASAP!

I know The Grasshopper, Evoke and others are losing sales because they can't hit water if they fell out a boat when it comes to hitting dates they set.

We know there have been several vapes that ran a “Smoke and mirrors” campaign. For those of you that don’t know what such a campaign is; it's when a start-up throws up a surface model, flashes around a dummy proof of the concept, usually a non-functional wood or metal block, and tries to focus people's attention on technology that hasn’t been developed yet. One example we can think of is Evoke. This is mainly why it took Evoke a while to get out after its campaign; from what I understand, they engineered everything after the crowdfunding campaign despite the release of their experiment video. We think Evoke is a really cool vaporizer nonetheless. We are not using a smoke and mirrors technique and we have everything engineered to ensure we wouldn't be throwing around un-backed claims.

We're trying really hard to be as sincere and realistic as possible and it would be great if everyone gave us the benefit of the doubt and some optimism!
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Respectfully,

VapinVentors





Define excessive use. Ya gotta be specific around here at FC.

To answer this question specifically we would have to test the prototype. But what i would consider excessive use is going around the usual 10 second lock. So lets say someone holds the button down for 9 seconds lets go and presses the button again for nine seconds and does so numerous times.


Also while we are talking about the 10 second lock, should we maybe put it to lets say 15 seconds? Anybody have any thoughts or preferences ?

Many people carry their wallets in their back pocket which they sit on. Two things to consider here. One, is that it is strong enough not to break in that scenario and two, that it not only fits in a wallet, but that it's comfortable when sitting on it and doesn't do any damage to the wallet, your pocket or ........our cheeks.

That may be true but not everybody, I for one never carry my wallet in my back pocket. But that also comes down to personal preference. Steel itself is a very strong metal and is stronger than aluminum. The curvature of the steel where the taper begins will contribute to the structural durability. So theoretically it should be very durable, but we will only be able to answer in conclusive detail when we rigorously test the prototype.

When it comes to comfort when sitting on it, it wouldn't add any more thickness then say 4 - 5 credit cards, which is unnoticeable. Again we have to get the prototype in our hands to really gauge the limits of zepto’s durability(so at the moment we wouldn’t really encourage you to sit on Zepto although it should be able to handle it). We don't see any reason it would do damage to your wallet or your pocket or anybody's cheeks. The touch sensor prevents any in pocket or in wallet activation because it only activates when coming in contact with skin. So unless you plan on sitting on Zepto butt naked, it won’t damage your cheeks. :)

In the real world of engineering, having a prototype on the way means most of the engineering you think you have finished is all about to change. Do they teach the old engineering adage 'it's the last 5% of the work that takes 90% of the time?' It's pretty accurate actually.
Good luck to you guys, it is not easy to bring a product to market that is for sure!

You have a very good point!

We have done everything in our power to account for little details to prevent future hiccups when bringing the prototype to life. The engineering is very extensive and has taken into account even the smallest details, given we can’t account for everything, we are not disregarding the possibility of a delay happening. But hopefully all goes well, and we’ll just see when the prototype is complete! See you on the other end and we can’t wait to get the prototype up here.

We are very confident in our engineering team which is led by a former Apple engineer!

Thank you for wishing us luck, it's always appreciated!

I'll bet on a cubic centimeter basis you are the smallest...volume, not footprint.

That very well may be, we'll look into that but thank you for your confidence!

Just hit me up in a pm if you want me to change the title for you.

Thank you and we will see if people have any suggestions and then make a decision from there!
 

Hippie Dickie

The Herbal Cube
Manufacturer
never mind ... i didn't read enough of your post before responding ... sorry.
 
Hippie Dickie,

smutman

SmutmanMDCXX
"To answer this question specifically we would have to test the prototype"
"So theoretically it should be very durable, but we will only be able to answer in conclusive detail when we rigorously test the prototype."

Don't take this the wrong way but the main thing I got out of that is you do not have a working prototype yet.

"When it comes to comfort when sitting on it, it wouldn't add any more thickness then say 4 - 5 credit cards, which is unnoticeable. Again we have to get the prototype in our hands to really gauge the limits of zepto’s durability(so at the moment we wouldn’t really encourage you to sit on Zepto although it should be able to handle it). We don't see any reason it would do damage to your wallet or your pocket or anybody's cheeks."

So you think 4-5 more credit cards isn't noticeable? You have no clue yet how it feels in a wallet and you have no clue on durability or what damage it can do to anything when sitting on it.

"We know there have been several vapes that ran a “Smoke and mirrors” campaign. For those of you that don’t know what such a campaign is; it's when a start-up throws up a surface model, flashes around a dummy proof of the concept, usually a non-functional wood or metal block, and tries to focus people's attention on technology that hasn’t been developed yet."

Sounds a little like your campaign. At least the others have a non-functional unit while you have no unit.

"As for the E-liquid and Dry herb models, we are working on getting them up ASAP!"
If it's just for oil or concentrate, I got plenty others that are already in my hand to use. So for me (rather use it for dry herb) I'll be waiting forever so I wish you luck in this venture.
 

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
Part (2) of 2
This response is regarding those who are doubtful of our claims, our release date, and Zepto overall. We understand that the FC community has come across previous vape start-ups that have made far-fetched claims yet failed to live up to them. We were among those people that have been disappointed, and we definitely do not want to be that kind of start-up. So before we came to FC we made sure that the engineering was complete in order for us to be able to make all these claims and know that they can be backed up by the engineering.



Plus, we have a patent pending on the design of Zepto. So if anyone decides they want to make it, we will take legal action faster than you can say Zepto. ;)

Zepto is 100% engineered so there will be no drastic changes to production model. But just like with any other prototype there will be minor bugs, and once we have it in our hands we can make minor tweaks to perfect it. Zepto was designed to be manufacturable, so it's basically ready to be manufactured once we get the funding we need for the first manufacturing run!

What we mean by Zepto was designed to be manufacturable, is that we've taken into consideration that this product is going to be mass produced so we tried to limit the amount of parts so that Zepto can be assembled efficiently on a manufacturable scale. We are aware of the common mistake of other products that have been fully designed and engineered, but the problem is that they weren't designed and engineered for manufacturability, which leads to many hiccups and delays in bringing the product to market; and in some cases it has to be re-engineered for manufacturability.


As for the E-liquid and Dry herb models, we are working on getting them up ASAP!



We know there have been several vapes that ran a “Smoke and mirrors” campaign. For those of you that don’t know what such a campaign is; it's when a start-up throws up a surface model, flashes around a dummy proof of the concept, usually a non-functional wood or metal block, and tries to focus people's attention on technology that hasn’t been developed yet. One example we can think of is Evoke. This is mainly why it took Evoke a while to get out after its campaign; from what I understand, they engineered everything after the crowdfunding campaign despite the release of their experiment video. We think Evoke is a really cool vaporizer nonetheless. We are not using a smoke and mirrors technique and we have everything engineered to ensure we wouldn't be throwing around un-backed claims.

We're trying really hard to be as sincere and realistic as possible and it would be great if everyone gave us the benefit of the doubt and some optimism!
Part (2) of 2

Respectfully,

VapinVentors







To answer this question specifically we would have to test the prototype. But what i would consider excessive use is going around the usual 10 second lock. So lets say someone holds the button down for 9 seconds lets go and presses the button again for nine seconds and does so numerous times.


Also while we are talking about the 10 second lock, should we maybe put it to lets say 15 seconds? Anybody have any thoughts or preferences ?



That may be true but not everybody, I for one never carry my wallet in my back pocket. But that also comes down to personal preference. Steel itself is a very strong metal and is stronger than aluminum. The curvature of the steel where the taper begins will contribute to the structural durability. So theoretically it should be very durable, but we will only be able to answer in conclusive detail when we rigorously test the prototype.

When it comes to comfort when sitting on it, it wouldn't add any more thickness then say 4 - 5 credit cards, which is unnoticeable. Again we have to get the prototype in our hands to really gauge the limits of zepto’s durability(so at the moment we wouldn’t really encourage you to sit on Zepto although it should be able to handle it). We don't see any reason it would do damage to your wallet or your pocket or anybody's cheeks. The touch sensor prevents any in pocket or in wallet activation because it only activates when coming in contact with skin. So unless you plan on sitting on Zepto butt naked, it won’t damage your cheeks. :)



You have a very good point!

We have done everything in our power to account for little details to prevent future hiccups when bringing the prototype to life. The engineering is very extensive and has taken into account even the smallest details, given we can’t account for everything, we are not disregarding the possibility of a delay happening. But hopefully all goes well, and we’ll just see when the prototype is complete! See you on the other end and we can’t wait to get the prototype up here.

We are very confident in our engineering team which is led by a former Apple engineer!

Thank you for wishing us luck, it's always appreciated!



That very well may be, we'll look into that but thank you for your confidence!



Thank you and we will see if people have any suggestions and then make a decision from there!
Welcome! I wish you much luck and success! Be advised that your request for benefit of doubt and optimism should only be considered a rare luxury around here and not an entitlement by any stretch. That's not to suggest that you shouldn't expect due respect and courtesy. Even some log term well established FC vendors with outstanding reputations get searing critical heat now & then. It will probably take much composure and grace on your part to withstand what will come by way of this thread. It will certainly test your mettle and PR business acumen.

Concerning the suitability of the ZeptO for portable wallet storage: We men, in particular, know that there are caveats to having one's wallet in a back (or side) pant pocket, some of which may not be ZeptO welcomed, or friendly - to cite just a few that come to my mind ...wallets can get wet and retain quite a bit of moisture from sweat on hot humid days and when exercising or working hard (moisture & electronics do not go well together); neighboring credit cards can be damaged (warped, cracked, etc.) from hard irregularly shaped objects firmly pressed against or near them; some people store a spare key, comb, or micro-tool in their wallet which can cause damage to a ZeptO as heavy weight is applied when sitting on a hard surface, or in concert w/ZeptO, firm pressure is brought to bear against, say, a credit card or precious photograph rendering some form of warpage or damage to either; is the ZeptO designed to comfortably conform to the standard credit card sized wallet compartments for easy slide entry/exit? Is it reasonable and safe to espouse the ZeptO as suitable for everyone's portable wallet storage given the above considerations, to also include those individuals of considerable weight or high-humidity geographical location?

Not at all trying to be difficult or critical ...just my inquisitive nature that likes to consider the world outside the ordinary box. Thanks!

Perhaps I've taken your wallet size reference in a direction you really never intended, i'e., you only meant to give a visual example of size and portability, but not advocating the idea that one's wallet is a good portability option. IDK...
 
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Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
PART (1) of 2
Hey everyone, sorry for not being active since last week; we were experiencing some technical difficulties with accessing our account, problems that even the moderators couldn’t explain. But we are back and ready to answer all of your questions!

So to begin with, we may have started off on the wrong foot; we are new to the forum and aren't really familiar with the rules and the FC community. To level with everyone, we are just a couple of college students who believe we have a great idea. We love vaping and want to create something unique in the industry. We put a lot of work into creating Zepto, down to the name and all the little details. So being that we invested ourselves so much into this project, we wanted to come in with a bang and really blow people away, not realizing that we are overbearing with the “hype”. We were just very excited about zepto and wanted FC’s users to be too! We really just came on here to get some honest feedback from the FC community and in hopes of generating some interest!

We realize that titling it the smallest vape doesn’t sound as genuine to you guys as it does to us. But in reality there is no other vaporizer out there that has the shape of a credit card and that can fit directly into your wallet or any other nook and cranny for that matter. What truly allows us to make the claim that we are the smallest is that Zepto measures in at 4.5 mm’s (0.177 inches) thin. It's fair for us to say Zepto is an extremely small vaporizing device. Especially when taking into account that we are implementing wireless charging, touch activation, interchangeable heating elements, easy clean airways and more; that is a whole lot of features in one device, a device that is less than a quarter of an inch thick. We think that's a lot more than any other “small vape” has to offer. And these are not just claims; we have been through extensive engineering to make sure that these features are going to be in Zepto! Again the engineering is complete!

Various vape pens, e-cigarettes and industry giants like g-pen do have small vaporizers. They may all be portable in the sense that you can fit it in your pocket, maybe, if there’s enough room between all the other stuff in your pockets. But they don't possess the true convenience that we designed Zepto for. In addition, I know when I leave the house I have my 3 essentials on me; my phone, wallet and keys. I realized that I tap my pockets countless times throughout my day making sure that I have everything with me and haven't lost anything, so adding another loose item to the list doesn’t simplify things!

With Zepto, we really wanted to make this vaporizer seamlessly integrate into your life; we want it to fit into your daily essentials! This way you know you have your vape, without having to think about it. Plus you have one less thing to be conscious of when on the go! You will never have to think about grabbing your vape before going out, therefore forgetting your vape is a thing of the past!

We'd also like to mention that the worlds smallest vaporizer is a working title, its open to change. Let us know if you have other ideas. We would love to hear them! But I don't know how much we can do about the current thread title.


With that said now we can now address some of your questions and pointers!

All the non-electronic vapes like the ubie and vapcap aren’t self powered, which means you need to carry a lighter along with you when you're on the go. The lighter contributes to the overall carry weight and overall dimensions, without that lighter you just have a nice tube.

To address draw/airflow -

So actually with Zepto’s sliding mechanism you have the option of the amount of airflow you want. When Zepto’s sliding mechanism is closed you get a relatively restricted draw. But if you open the mechanism to where the atomizer is exposed you can get a lot more airflow and you can control your preference of airflow depending on how far you open or close the slider! (Zepto is originally intended to be used with the slider closed though, but it comes down to user preference)

Does Zepto get hot (thermal insulation)-

We have incorporated as much thermal insulation as possible to prevent the heat from conducting to the rest of the device. Just like with any vape it may get warm around the atomizer after excessive use. Otherwise it should be fine. We will be doing rigorous testing on the prototype so we will put up videos and keep you in the loop!

Will zepto be safe in the wallet-

Originally Zepto was going to be made out of a high grade aluminum, but now we are leaning towards steel. It's a very durable metal and will withstand practically anything you do with your zepto vaporizer. So rest assured zepto will be fine in your wallet.


P.S. We are unveiling the Clear Glass Heating Element On Monday So we hope everyone is excited !

Get more info and get to know us a little better on our New website http://www.vapinventors.com/

We hope you like it!


Respectfully,

Vapinventors

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Makes sense... Good luck!

I'd you wanted to change it, could just go with worlds thinnest vaporizer insteas to be more specific perhaps...

And yeah why not 15 seconds? People can do less of they want.

We'll see what happens here over the next few months, if it all goes completely smooth as you say, I think you'd be the first... Conduction GH?
 

thekarmawhore

Well-Known Member
To level with everyone, we are just a couple of college students who believe we have a great idea.

So you have not yet ever developed a product from concept thru production I gather? If not, then I understand how you can say
Zepto is 100% engineered so there will be no drastic changes to production model. But just like with any other prototype there will be minor bugs, and once we have it in our hands we can make minor tweaks to perfect it. Zepto was designed to be manufacturable, so it's basically ready to be manufactured once we get the funding we need for the first manufacturing run!


To me your claims don't sound like overbearing 'hype' they sound naive. (please don't take that as a burn)

I've been involved with product development for over 25 years so far and I have yet to see any project team do all the engineering up front, and then make a prototype, and then make minor tweaks to it, and then go full production. It's just not the reality I've experienced.

This isn't me not giving you the benefit of the doubt, this is me saying I've never seen it happen, mainly because prototyping is an integral part of product development engineering. You pretty much can't have one without the other and it isn't a serial process. It's extremely iterative.

Here's another saying you'll hear a lot in an engineering career, even with stuff that was good or even great DFMA from the start:

"Well, it looked good on paper..."

And an ex-Apple engineer as well as any other engineer that's been in the trenches will be totally confirming these sayings, if they've never heard them, they weren't doing product development.

As I re-read myself I realize this reply might sound a lot more patronizing and harsh than where I'm at with my sentiment here. I really do want this to be a great success for you, and if it happens on your originally stated schedule, I will gladly dine on crow while waiting in line to throw my money at you.

HOWEVER, if things don't go quite as planned, and you run into issues and feel stuck, I will gladly help you out with advice, or design ideas or any other suggestions that I can come up with based on the situation. Just ask.

After all we're all in this together and if I've learned anything in my time here it's that these animals aren't looking for that one 'best' vape, they want a collection of them! Plus we're helping people be healthier than they otherwise would have been so it's all good, brother!

your pal,
thekarmawhore
 
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