X-Max Qomo Micro E-rig

biohacker

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So I received my door knocker notification card that was dated on the 11th that said I could go pickup my Qomo after 1pm next business day, which was yesterday. But since there were no deliveries yesterday and there were today, I thought it would be a great idea to just go pick it up after 2pm. But when I gave them my door knocker, they scanned it and said, "NO QOMO FOR YOU!!! COME BACK ONE YEAR!!!"

At that point I just tucked my tail put my head down and did an about face. I hope I have better luck tomorrow, the suspense is killing me now more than ever. I'll also have some new toys to compare it too (Slash and Stella). Looking forward to getting this chapter of my life behind me, and enjoying whichever devices become adopted for good. Life is good lol.
 

BabyFacedFinster

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So I received my door knocker notification card that was dated on the 11th that said I could go pickup my Qomo after 1pm next business day, which was yesterday. But since there were no deliveries yesterday and there were today, I thought it would be a great idea to just go pick it up after 2pm. But when I gave them my door knocker, they scanned it and said, "NO QOMO FOR YOU!!! COME BACK ONE YEAR!!!"

At that point I just tucked my tail put my head down and did an about face. I hope I have better luck tomorrow, the suspense is killing me now more than ever. I'll also have some new toys to compare it too (Slash and Stella). Looking forward to getting this chapter of my life behind me, and enjoying whichever devices become adopted for good. Life is good lol.
Sorry to hear. Hopefully tomorrow.

In the meanwhile,

When? Haven't seen him talk about it in 2 weeks.
You can fast forward to 12:15.
 

biohacker

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Not too happy about hearing that you can burn your dab on the LOWEST temperature? What's up with that? I can't even burn a dab on the highest temp with my Puffco+. Like was he just not stopping at the right time? But still, low temp is supposed to be all about flavour a small clouds? But burning? lol
 

Kins

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Not too happy about hearing that you can burn your dab on the LOWEST temperature? What's up with that? I can't even burn a dab on the highest temp with my Puffco+. Like was he just not stopping at the right time? But still, low temp is supposed to be all about flavour a small clouds? But burning? lol
All of them burn at the lowest temp setting. It's way too high. Live resin vaporizes at 315F - 400F. Most of them have only have a set of temps to go through. You can't tell in your temp, the exception to that is Focus Carta V2. You can adjust that temp as low or high as you want via the app. I still don't really like any of them but I'd deal with the carta V2 out of all of them. The Oura is a piece of crap though and over priced. It only has a set of 4 temps I believe and it starts really high like around 600 I think. It doesn't have an app, and doesn't really have any features that really stand out. Also with oura you can't replace your own battery. They are just the same silly low quality toys compared to an e-nail. Even a regular torch and rig works better if you figure out the timing. Badder/butter vapes at 350-400.....
 

biohacker

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All of them burn at the lowest temp setting.
My Puffco Peak surely did not.

Live resin vaporizes at 315F - 400F.
That's really low, LOW temp vape... I would be surprised to find someone vape it that low. I prefer downtemps from around 525to 425ish. I guess you would HAVE to use a ruby or sapphire gemstone insert to achieve such low vape temps with a banger? I don't think you would get a wisp of a terp at such low temps on quartz, but perhaps i'm mistaken? :hmm:

They are just the same silly low quality toys compared to an e-nail.
Why compare apples to oranges? :shrug: There is a time and place for an e-nail, torch, or e-rig device! The Puffco Peak out of the box is only so-so IMHO, but add a good insert, rebuilt atty, bubble cap, and water tool, and you actually have a decent portable device. Just ends up costing about double! :rofl:

Even a regular torch and rig works better if you figure out the timing.
No need with a Terpometer! :brow:

Badder/butter vapes at 350-400.....
I just got some budder in the mail! I have some experimenting to do with my new Terpometer and D-nail Sapphire insert! :D

Got the QOMO on the charger! It's going down! So far my impression is it looks awesome! The packaging is great, love the size/form and build quality seems decent. The carb cap is genius IMO!

The ceramic bucket looks perfect and bigger than I thought and I don't have to worry about the air holes like the Puffco+!

USB-c charging sweet! First impressions are great! I'm not even going to bother filling with water! STOKED!!! :rockon:
 
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Petetbay

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Off the VM2 crystal meth atty and back on the Quomo ceramic atty still taking dabs neat. Did some nice crumble dabs on white cleaned up pretty good each time getting carried away with burn offs on the Quomo, it is like new.

Word of warning if you do huge dabs or have low quality concentrate this is probably not the device for you. Until crystal atty is made for this device you'll be unhappy with the ceramic atty. You can get away with lq concentrate if you micro dose or stay on heavy cleanings with iso qtips, always wet, except after wet brushing wipe with the dry end to buff it. I have black Errybird swabs that have really tight cotton and impossible to fray even dry, very abrasive and do a good job but they are black and can't see if there's residue on it. Alternating attys out when dirty and doing burn offs on a modbox would be a way to keep it clean.

PPN the stock carb cap steel gets hot almost burnt myself put silicone washer on it. Works okay for on the go. I prefer the Puffco Peak ball carb cap works excellent also on the VM where the opening is same size as Quomo glass collar.


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PPN

TopGreen X-Max Representative
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Hi @biohacker , I don't feel you can burn a dab on lower setting although there is no TC chip in fact, it's power controlled and if lower setting is low the heat build up and might end higher, especially if you don't draw hard enough, I recommand to start to hit the Qomo slowly and increase your draw rate while you feel the heat in order to compensate it.

Hi @Petetbay I agree the metal ring of the carb cap might be hot although if you handle it by the glass part like it's designed for there is no issues imo. Great to know the Qomo can handle the VM2 atty, it looks like you have a lot of fun with that vape!

Stay safe and have fun dabs!
 

LabPong

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The Oura is a piece of crap though and over priced. It only has a set of 4 temps I believe and it starts really high like around 600 I think. It doesn't have an app, and doesn't really have any features that really stand out. Also with oura you can't replace your own battery. They are just the same silly low quality toys compared to an e-nail. Even a regular torch and rig works better if you figure out the timing. Badder/butter vapes at 350-400.....
Oura has a super easy battery replacement deal...its called 100% lifetime replacement. Also, the temps are not at the dabbing surface......try scorching anything at the lowest temp on an Oura.....I have never experienced that in a long use time.


They are just the same silly low quality toys compared to an e-nail.
That is true......nothing compares to my 710coils setup!
 

biohacker

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Hi @biohacker , I don't feel you can burn a dab on lower setting although there is no TC chip in fact, it's power controlled and if lower setting is low the heat build up and might end higher, especially if you don't draw hard enough, I recommand to start to hit the Qomo slowly and increase your draw rate while you feel the heat in order to compensate it.
You're right, perhaps those that are burning their dabs are using different extracts but i've even tried budder which is similar to rosin and have had zero problems with burning on any of the temps.

So far my experience has been mixed... I love everything about the Qomo except for the dirty airpath with the silicone.... it completely destroys the flavour of my dab AND I can actually taste the rubber. I've decided to do a full deep clean with iso towelette to determine if this is just something that came from the factory and needed a clean/break in, or if it's just the way she goes. If it's the way she goes, then i'll be passing my Qomo Torch on!

EDIT: It's just the way she goes! So I have passed the Qomo on to someone that will appreciate it more!

I think XMAX products are very inexpensive for a good reason :2c::wave:

 
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Kins

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Oura has a super easy battery replacement deal...its called 100% lifetime replacement. Also, the temps are not at the dabbing surface......try scorching anything at the lowest temp on an Oura.....I have never experienced that in a long use time.




That is true......nothing compares to my 710coils setup!
Their customer service is atrocious so good luck with that. The oura has burned every dab I've tried with it. If the temps are not at the dabbing surface why even tell people the temps? Isn't the whole point so can adjust the temp to the temperature that your concentrate vapes at?. The Oura is the worst of all the e-rigs. But I don't want to really go off topic since this thread is for X-max.
 
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PPN

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You're right, perhaps those that are burning their dabs are using different extracts but i've even tried budder which is similar to rosin and have had zero problems with burning on any of the temps.

So far my experience has been mixed... I love everything about the Qomo except for the dirty airpath with the silicone.... it completely destroys the flavour of my dab AND I can actually taste the rubber. I've decided to do a full deep clean with iso towelette to determine if this is just something that came from the factory and needed a clean/break in, or if it's just the way she goes. If it's the way she goes, then i'll be passing my Qomo Torch on!

EDIT: It's just the way she goes! So I have passed the Qomo on to someone that will appreciate it more!

I think XMAX products are very inexpensive for a good reason :2c::wave:

So, basically, you gave up with the Qomo cause the silicone vaporpath or cause the performances...? That silicone vaporpath is something seen on every X-Max vaporizers, yes this is simplify a lot engineering and helps to offer low prices since you can do every shapes you want with silicone unlike glass or ceramic.
I'm fighting since a while to improve that aspect of our vaporizers even if it may increase retail price, I think they understood that and we will see a full glass/ceramic vaporpath unit pretty soon.

Although one big advantage of the silicone vaporpath is for cleaning, reclaim doesn't stick on that surface.:tup:

Thank you for confirming the Qomo doesn't burn any dab!
 

LesPlenty

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Attys are cheap...if you buy a heap of them (about US$4.50 to $5.70ea), group buy?
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So are the complete units,
 

Petetbay

Member
So, basically, you gave up with the Qomo cause the silicone vaporpath or cause the performances...? That silicone vaporpath is something seen on every X-Max vaporizers, yes this is simplify a lot engineering and helps to offer low prices since you can do every shapes you want with silicone unlike glass or ceramic.
I'm fighting since a while to improve that aspect of our vaporizers even if it may increase retail price, I think they understood that and we will see a full glass/ceramic vaporpath unit pretty soon.

Although one big advantage of the silicone vaporpath is for cleaning, reclaim doesn't stick on that surface.:tup:

Thank you for confirming the Qomo doesn't burn any dab!
No silicone in vapor path on the Xvape VM and VM2. They cost more though. Hard to find a quality $75 dab device unless it's modbox mounted. Yocan Torch is cheap but not exactly portable mine has modbox on it as well..
 
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biohacker

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So, basically, you gave up with the Qomo cause the silicone vaporpath or cause the performances...?
Yeah the the silicone! The performance of the device is great if you run a pre-heat, some of the hits really surprised me! But so did the poor flavour :puke:

That silicone vaporpath is something seen on every X-Max vaporizers, yes this is simplify a lot engineering and helps to offer low prices since you can do every shapes you want with silicone unlike glass or ceramic.
Pretty sure my Xmax V-one+ didn't have it, but it had the crappy donut heaters that heated unevenly. Unfortunately this device isn't marketed for people like me because I care about flavour too much, and especially don't want the taste of rubber added to my tasty vapours. Why care about offering low prices so much when everyone is throwing hundreds of dollars at Puffco for their Peak which doesn't even work $200 more than your device? It certainly does taste better though.

I'm fighting since a while to improve that aspect of our vaporizers even if it may increase retail price, I think they understood that and we will see a full glass/ceramic vaporpath unit pretty soon.
:rockon::rockon::rockon: Thank you for taking my bitching up the chain of command! :lol:

Hard to find a quality $75 dab device unless it's modbox mounted. Yocan Torch is cheap but not exactly portable mine has modbox on it as well..
Puffco+v2, hands down. If there is something that someone thinks is better, I would be very interested in knowing!
 
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Thick Vape

Solar Dabs
It seems my unit runs a bit hot then. That would explain why I get less hits/cycles out of it as most.

I could get the bottom of the atty really clean by emptying a full charge on the red/highest setting. The walls stay dark though.
But yeah it still tastes the same.

The Peak does have silicone in the airpath too, no?
 

Petetbay

Member
Puffco+v2, hands down. If there is something that someone thinks is better, I would be very interested in knowing!
The Puffco Plus 2 is $120CAN, I never tried one but it costs at least $30 more not fair comparison and has same problem with dirty ceramics and I doubt it handles dabs the size the Quomo can do. Most of the $300-400 erigs have some silicone in their vapor passages The Carta, Oura and Rok all have some silicone. Don't know about the Peak. I know lots of people here complain about their sensitivity to silicone taste, I don't seem to have that problem, but have tasted it but it never lasts. Did you try the Quomo with water in it?

Here's how I tested tested Quomo when I got it and never tasted rubber even with the silicone straw, used so I could see what the unit was doing.

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It seems my unit runs a bit hot then. That would explain why I get less hits/cycles out of it as most

There is some variance in the atty resistance off the Quomo coils I sure this normal, my original was .47ohms, replacements were .48, .51 and .52ohms on another modbox its .51 to .55 pretty well the same as long as the voltage constant power less or more depending on the resistance which while resistance does change as power is applied I don't think the Quomo has any control and just maintains the voltage which does not change. So some may run hotter or cooler depending on the coil. I don't think it's much of a deal.
 

biohacker

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I could get the bottom of the atty really clean by emptying a full charge on the red/highest setting. The walls stay dark though.
But yeah it still tastes the same.
I had zero success doing burn offs trying to get the ceramic white again. I gave up once the unit turned into a burn hazard.

The Peak does have silicone in the airpath too, no?
It does! But there is a reason that it costs what it does. All silicone is not created equally. It's like Puffco went with the platinum cured silicone, and XMAX chose the cheapest rubber silicone.

The Puffco Plus 2 is $120CAN, I never tried one but it costs at least $30 more not fair comparison and has same problem with dirty ceramics and I doubt it handles dabs the size the Quomo can do.
It's $95cdn and my qomo cost nearly the same? Checkout Haze Smoke Shop they offer free shipping! And you won't beat PlanetVape's prices on the atomizers at just over $20cdn each for 5 packs. The bowl isn't as big as the qomo but the hit quality and consistency destroys the qomo, and actually can pump out even bigger tastier clouds. I think it's a very fair comparison, i've been testing portable dab experiences over the past several weeks and have spent ridiculous amounts of money trying to find the best device for me, the Puffco+ is the only one that has survived the test of time, and the LEAST amount of problems (none actually).

Did you try the Quomo with water in it?
I did! It's pretty useless! But I could easily detect the rubber taste even with a couple of drops of water masking lol

Here's how I tested tested Quomo when I got it and never tasted rubber even with the silicone straw, used so I could see what the unit was doing.
I'm super sensitive to smells, and even after cleaning the silicone, you can easily smell the silicone.

Even @420vapezone Troy in his review states that near the end of his dab he said "it tasted like tires". I don't think that was just the end of the dab IMO.
 

jerri

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Yeah the the silicone! The performance of the device is great if you run a pre-heat, some of the hits really surprised me! But so did the poor flavour :puke:



Pretty sure my Xmax V-one+ didn't have it, but it had the crappy donut heaters that heated unevenly. Unfortunately this device isn't marketed for people like me because I care about flavour too much, and especially don't want the taste of rubber added to my tasty vapours. Why care about offering low prices so much when everyone is throwing hundreds of dollars at Puffco for their Peak which doesn't even work $200 more than your device? It certainly does taste better though.



:rockon::rockon::rockon: Thank you for taking my bitching up the chain of command! :lol:



Puffco+v2, hands down. If there is something that someone thinks is better, I would be very interested in knowing!
So my puffco peak vision vape pen is due to arrive today I have a Qomo and like it so this should be a good comparison
 

Kins

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I had zero success doing burn offs trying to get the ceramic white again. I gave up once the unit turned into a burn hazard.



It does! But there is a reason that it costs what it does. All silicone is not created equally. It's like Puffco went with the platinum cured silicone, and XMAX chose the cheapest rubber silicone.



It's $95cdn and my qomo cost nearly the same? Checkout Haze Smoke Shop they offer free shipping! And you won't beat PlanetVape's prices on the atomizers at just over $20cdn each for 5 packs. The bowl isn't as big as the qomo but the hit quality and consistency destroys the qomo, and actually can pump out even bigger tastier clouds. I think it's a very fair comparison, i've been testing portable dab experiences over the past several weeks and have spent ridiculous amounts of money trying to find the best device for me, the Puffco+ is the only one that has survived the test of time, and the LEAST amount of problems (none actually).



I did! It's pretty useless! But I could easily detect the rubber taste even with a couple of drops of water masking lol



I'm super sensitive to smells, and even after cleaning the silicone, you can easily smell the silicone.

Even @420vapezone Troy in his review states that near the end of his dab he said "it tasted like tires". I don't think that was just the end of the dab IMO.

All the e-rigs I've tried taste like plastic. However I've only tried two. I've been excited at new releases each time, but I'm looking for single digit temp control where you can change the temp to any temp you want and don't have to choose between temps already set. Also looking for a all glass vapor path where none of the vapor goes over any electronics, silicone or plastic. The switch vapor path is different and doesn't go over any electronics but it's not a glass pathway. It comes close to what I would want. However the price is just ridiculous and the dry herb portion of it doesn't even work like it should. So if both options dry herb and concentrate actually worked like they should than you are paying for both options. So if the dry herb option doesn't work than it's like you are paying for it anyway. Without the dry herb portion you'd probably end up paying less.
 
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Thick Vape

Solar Dabs
Now after my burnoff session my Qomo runs much less hot. I cannot see any glowing in the bucket anymore, even on the red setting. I wonder if it is just the atty that changed. We will see, maybe.
 

PPN

TopGreen X-Max Representative
Company Rep
I'm super sensitive to smells, and even after cleaning the silicone, you can easily smell the silicone.
XMAX chose the cheapest rubber silicone.
Hi, when I received my beta unit I got a huge silicone smell, I mentionned that and they told me they will use well cured silicone for the final unit but I still not get one in hands, they promised me to send me one but still no news. I'll transmit your feedback to the team, maybe they will re-visit the Qomo... if it happens I'll try my best to get one for you (for free!).

Personnaly I'm well sensitive to smells but not exremely like you, my wife is less sensitive than me and one of my friends doesn't smell anything... I always found the TopGreen products to be the more neutral from the ones I tested out of China, this is was a reason of my decision to work as a Rep for them. Although I know a few others members was less satisfied about that smell... here that's a pretty individual things.

All in all, I'm pushing since monthes in order to get rid of this silicone vaporpath used in every of our vaporizers, that's one of the reasons we are less expensive but we need to move on something better now, I guess something is in plans...
 

Thick Vape

Solar Dabs
Try tightening the atty sounds like not contacting good.
I could not fix anything, but thanks for the tip anyway!
Seems continuous back to back heating on the red setting is a bit too much. I should have followed your procedure a bit more precisely probably.

Yeah get a wrench or maybe a hammer, that'll fix it...
Haha, I might try that for the final repair. :lol:
 
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