Define outdoor.........that can range from dropping some seeds\cuts and coming back at the end of season like it is in say South Florida or you can build a giant climate controlled facility that is still essentially outdoor\greenhouse quality and everything in between.
Are you a experienced farmer or somebody who went on a cannabis forum and bought some leds and a tent..............do you have acerage currently growing a commercial crop ready to switch or do you have to buy land...........or are you a asshole who trespasses and destroys others property.
Not even getting into equipment and irrigation........all specialized stuff and all very much in use by every farmer in America.
Volume alone dictates outdoors low price as it should it is a commodity same as any other.
Whoa Dude. I don't know where all that stuff is coming from. I'm not attacking you, just trying to understand why you said that $30-50 was all outdoor was worth. Let's back up and keep it simple. You said back on Jan 15, in response to someone else saying that ounces of flower were $30, 40, 50 in Oregon, that that is about "what outdoor\greenhouse grown should be priced at"
I expressed amazement and, without seeing your other post in which you said you sold to medical card holders for $100 oz, called you a dreamer. I apologize for not checking you out better before responding. My bad.
Well, the conversation got a little twisted up somehow. I tried to simplify it in my last post and asked plainly "...and why you value outdoor so low?"
Now that I know you live in Montana, not California, I understand a little better about your pricing for your indoor grown. But no one trying to grow legally in California in greenhouses or outdoor could possibly sell their flower for $30-$50 oz, let alone if that was the retail price it would mean they'd have to sell wholesale to dispensaries for 1/2 or 2/3 that. As a personal outdoor grower I can admit that my flower doesn't look as pretty as top-shelf indoor sold in dispensaries in San Francisco or San Jose for $250-$450 oz (plus 25-35% taxes added on). But I've had some of it lab tested and I can tell you that I can get 20-25%THC and frequently 2-3% terpenes, so medication quality is every bit as good. (Last year my Harlequin tested out with 5.4%THC/11.3%CBD/2.79% terpenes - it's damn good!)
Just to answer your questions:
Am I an experienced farmer? - I have only 4 grow seasons under my belt, but I do know some of the premier outdoor growers in the Emerald Triangle who could not survive making $30-$50 oz while trying to be fully licensed and legal.
Do I have acreage..? No, I grow 5-6 plants in my backyard. Broad leaf, narrow leaf, and high CBD. From both seed and clone. I don't do guerrilla grows.
Am I an asshole...? You'd have to ask my friends...
And I agree that volume alone dictates cheaper prices for outdoor grown. Just not $30-50 per oz. Even shake will run at least $50/oz
Now, since I don't use the black market I have no idea what the pricing in that market is these days. I grow organically in my backyard. I only purchase at dispensaries I can confirm that they test all their flower product for cannabinoid/terpene profiles as well as pesticides and other contaminants such as molds.
Thanks for reading - Peace brother.