Discontinued VRIPtech Heating Wand

[Alexis]

Don't just go by my feelings dude, most people love the water tools! I'm just an odd duck!

If you don't try to "overpower" the water tool you will be fine... I have massive lungs and take huge hits, and just find them fatiguing. I'm more of an 18mm one perk tall can bent neck kinda duck. See, odd!

Looking forward to testing out the vrip with lazylathe! It's been a while.... the flavour of the VHW is something else!

Thanks man. Of course, I am interested to know all opinions. But I just feel like I may be similar to you in that regard. I have big lungs, that are actually quite healthy despite my extreme symptoms.
I dont like it to be too much hard work to medicate. This is anothet big draw to the VHW for me, I believe you can extract the goods quicker than the XL Herborizer at low, even lower temps. I like a strong and powerful high, and if it can be achieved in as relatively short time as I desire, with no hardwork involved- that is the goal.

So I cant tell if I would prefer a more open rig or the Vrip tools. I have no experience with different water tools, and no buddies with pieces for me to try.
Money allowing I would choose both but health costs have to come first (to a degree- I can justify the VHW).
Even if I did choose the Vrip water tools, I would want a nice dhgate bong for it as well, which would need to be 14 mm too in that case.

 

[splitz]

@lazylathe - wait until you put the VHW into that Roor Vapor piece...the taste is amazing and it feels so natural - as though you grew a third lung for the sole purpose of sampling flowers.

You're going to love it.

Excited to be re-joining this family again!
Sold the first one and have found one for sale locally bought from mark himself!

This time it is an upgraded wand with a better heater? Not sure about this but will see once item is in hand. Possibly version 3.0.
It also comes with the water tool, which is awesome!!

Picking this baby up on Sunday morning in Ottawa!
Sunday night she will be heating bowls in Hamilton!

@Alexis

I think it may be an aesthetics thing and some preconceived notions about the wand.
I have heard from people that it is just a soldering iron with a glass front.
This is quite true from just merely glancing at the wand but once you get down and actually inspect the wand you will see that it is from from that!
It's fragile, yes but just be careful! Accidents happen but if you want pure heated air, this vape will deliver just that! Numerous other vapes do the same thing, this one is just different.

I see it as a tool for vaporization as it was intended. It may be the second cousin of the ugly duckling, which happens to be my Supreme 3 in this case, but it is no slouch in the flavor and vapor department!

I would love to see a small digital display incorporated into the handle, utilizing a thermocouple in the heater, to give repeatable sessions. And digital is just cool!! This would also bring it into the 21st century looks wise. Hint hint...LOL!!! @ShadowVape

 

[CannaBanana]

I really really want one of these baadly

 

[lazylathe]

The Vrip is home with me now!!
And OMG do I have some amazing news!!!!

My Vrip has the latest version of the heater element!!! No more ceramic rod, this time it appears to be a wrapped type of heater!!!

Will put up some pics later!
Family still here...

Any news on the new heater @ShadowVape ??? Is this the heater you are using for concentrates?

EDIT:
On closer inspection it is still a ceramic rod heater but more than half is wrapped in a wire!!

EDIT #2!

If anyone sees this in the classifieds, please PM me and tell me to WAKE UP!!!

Ar first i was seriously disappointed, not because of the Vrip but because of what i was sold...
The guy told me i was getting the full kit and because i was traveling it would be securely packaged and in a box. I thought this was awesome since he was willing to wait a few days for me to pick it up, it is over a 5 hour drive away...

So i have the latest Vrip wand!!
But the adapters are for the old Valloon kit...
And the WT is an ancient one meant for combustion, a Vrip WT....

So after cutting a section of the Valloon stem off, it now kind of fits in my RooR tube.
The Valloon uses O-rings to somehow secure it to something... Never seen or used one! LOL!
So out comes the Mediacl grade silicone and i fashion up an 18mm seal for the Valloon stem!
Sits fairly stable but i will have to buy the correct adapter...

Next issue is the distance of herb from heater.... Since the Valloon is powered by a heat gun the distance is perfect.... Not so good for lung power though...
A quick study of the system and a look through my screens i find one that sits firmly between the stem and the heat gun adapter. Not the load is the correct distance away and testing can begin!

Loaded up some GSC and hit it.
Almost instant, thick white vapor filled my RooR!!!
Flavors that i have never tasted in GSC! Fruity notes and this odd oily layer in my mouth that has the same taste my wife's CBD oil has, kind of orangey... Trippy!
Holy Crap Batman!!! This thing got a turbo under the hood now!
Flavor from that first hot was overwhelming in every way! And in such a good way!

@biohacker Have a look at the wand bro!! Notice the upgrades from our previous versions?

Check out the WT! Has a super odd bowl!

 

[Alexis]

The Vrip is home with me now!!
And OMG do I have some amazing news!!!!

My Vrip has the latest version of the heater element!!! No more ceramic rod, this time it appears to be a wrapped type of heater!!!

Will put up some pics later!
Family still here...

Any news on the new heater @ShadowVape ??? Is this the heater you are using for concentrates?

EDIT:
On closer inspection it is still a ceramic rod heater but more than half is wrapped in a wire!!

EDIT #2!

If anyone sees this in the classifieds, please PM me and tell me to WAKE UP!!!

Ar first i was seriously disappointed, not because of the Vrip but because of what i was sold...
The guy told me i was getting the full kit and because i was traveling it would be securely packaged and in a box. I thought this was awesome since he was willing to wait a few days for me to pick it up, it is over a 5 hour drive away...

So i have the latest Vrip wand!!
But the adapters are for the old Valloon kit...
And the WT is an ancient one meant for combustion, a Vrip WT....

So after cutting a section of the Valloon stem off, it now kind of fits in my RooR tube.
The Valloon uses O-rings to somehow secure it to something... Never seen or used one! LOL!
So out comes the Mediacl grade silicone and i fashion up an 18mm seal for the Valloon stem!
Sits fairly stable but i will have to buy the correct adapter...

Next issue is the distance of herb from heater.... Since the Valloon is powered by a heat gun the distance is perfect.... Not so good for lung power though...
A quick study of the system and a look through my screens i find one that sits firmly between the stem and the heat gun adapter. Not the load is the correct distance away and testing can begin!

Loaded up some GSC and hit it.
Almost instant, thick white vapor filled my RooR!!!
Flavors that i have never tasted in GSC! Fruity notes and this odd oily layer in my mouth that has the same taste my wife's CBD oil has, kind of orangey... Trippy!
Holy Crap Batman!!! This thing got a turbo under the hood now!
Flavor from that first hot was overwhelming in every way! And in such a good way!

@biohacker Have a look at the wand bro!! Notice the upgrades from our previous versions?

Check out the WT! Has a super odd bowl!

I will be interested to see Lazylathe, when you update your profile and add the Vrip back to your current lineup, will you still keep it in the ex's or remove it?
That would be quite cool to leave it there, to show it's cycle of life.

Too bad the guy didnt inform you all the right details about exactly what you were picking up. It sucks when people cant just be straight with the exact facts.
Still, maybe you would not have gone for it if you had known, but I bet you are glad you did.
I thought you said you were getting it direct from Mark? I may have got that confused though.

I am a bit disappointed you didnt get the modern Vrip water tool(s). I was very interested to see what you made of the draw restriction, and to see how Biohacker got on with it in relation to his feelings in the past about not liking the draw restriction.

The VHW really does excite me, there is something about it. I shot Mark an email yesterday just to reach out with a few thoughts and ideas. When (and if) I get closer to purchasing, I will ask all Vrip owners on this thread about their experience and preferences with water tools, and joint sizes, to get a better idea of the setup I think I may like best.

I suppose that is the 14 mm bowl? It must be, I bet they always used that even with their old heatgun water tools. I dont know what bowl joint size you owned before, or if you had their water tools at any point, but all in good time!

 

[lazylathe]

I will be interested to see Lazylathe, when you update your profile and add the Vrip back to your current lineup, will you still keep it in the ex's or remove it?
That would be quite cool to leave it there, to show it's cycle of life.

Too bad the guy didnt inform you all the right details about exactly what you were picking up. It sucks when people cant just be straight with the exact facts.
Still, maybe you would not have gone for it if you had known, but I bet you are glad you did.
I thought you said you were getting it direct from Mark? I may have got that confused though.

I am a bit disappointed you didnt get the modern Vrip water tool(s). I was very interested to see what you made of the draw restriction, and to see how Biohacker got on with it in relation to his feelings in the past about not liking the draw restriction.

The VHW really does excite me, there is something about it. I shot Mark an email yesterday just to reach out with a few thoughts and ideas. When (and if) I get closer to purchasing, I will ask all Vrip owners on this thread about their experience and preferences with water tools, and joint sizes, to get a better idea of the setup I think I may like best.

I suppose that is the 14 mm bowl? It must be, I bet they always used that even with their old heatgun water tools. I dont know what bowl joint size you owned before, or if you had their water tools at any point, but all in good time!

I will get to my signature in a bit and will leave it in the Ex's as well! Good history there and shows dedication going back to Vrip again!

It's all good! It works as advertised with all the bits he supplied me with and with my modification, it works even better now!
You are disappointed?? LMAO!!! I am disappointed i did not get what he advertised! LOL!
Anyway IMO the WT supplied is useless... The angle is so severe it is almost horizontal and quite awkward to use. It is no longer sold by vriptech.
It is an 18mm connection, so i adjusted the length so it fits in my RooR tube. Also had to adjust the length of the Vrip bowl tube with the O-Rings on it.

I like the open air aspect of the 18mm joint size but Vrip prefers 14mm. I think you get more suction power with the smaller joint sizes and this can affect cloud density etc... IIRC...
All of my WT's are 18mm except one, so that says something to me! LOL!
Any WT that i have bought that had any sort of chug to it has been sold or given away or thrown out.
I like to feel a slight restriction but it should be very easy to start the action with a gentle pull.

I remember that i did try @biohacker Pro WT and did not really care for it. Not sure if it was 14 or 18 though but i do remember it had significant draw resistance and i only tried it the once and never again during that time.

I actually do have an original wand bowl, have a look at this picture:

The bowl has a round disc on the one side and is angled for left/right hand use.

I have also sent Mark an e mail requesting more info on my wand. I would like to find out more about the wire wrapped heater, the white connector and why the internal glass is clear and not sandblasted.
Lots of question!

Once dialed into your sweet spot this vape produces some amazing vapor!
Easily milks my 9" RooR WT!

 

[Alexis]

I will get to my signature in a bit and will leave it in the Ex's as well! Good history there and shows dedication going back to Vrip again!

It's all good! It works as advertised with all the bits he supplied me with and with my modification, it works even better now!
You are disappointed?? LMAO!!! I am disappointed i did not get what he advertised! LOL!
Anyway IMO the WT supplied is useless... The angle is so severe it is almost horizontal and quite awkward to use. It is no longer sold by vriptech.
It is an 18mm connection, so i adjusted the length so it fits in my RooR tube. Also had to adjust the length of the Vrip bowl tube with the O-Rings on it.

I like the open air aspect of the 18mm joint size but Vrip prefers 14mm. I think you get more suction power with the smaller joint sizes and this can affect cloud density etc... IIRC...
All of my WT's are 18mm except one, so that says something to me! LOL!
Any WT that i have bought that had any sort of chug to it has been sold or given away or thrown out.
I like to feel a slight restriction but it should be very easy to start the action with a gentle pull.

I remember that i did try @biohacker Pro WT and did not really care for it. Not sure if it was 14 or 18 though but i do remember it had significant draw resistance and i only tried it the once and never again during that time.

I actually do have an original wand bowl, have a look at this picture:

The bowl has a round disc on the one side and is angled for left/right hand use.

I have also sent Mark an e mail requesting more info on my wand. I would like to find out more about the wire wrapped heater, the white connector and why the internal glass is clear and not sandblasted.
Lots of question!

Once dialed into your sweet spot this vape produces some amazing vapor!
Easily milks my 9" RooR WT!

Thanks very much for your thoughts. I know yourself and Biohacker have been around all the vapes and have tons more experience than I do and with different rigs, so I value your views and experience highly.
Vriptech are so adamant about their preference for 14 mm. My natural inclination is to always go for 18 mm. I like the open airflow, and can control my pull rate.

I definitely want the wand, it just seemed a bit tricky to decide what rig I will like best. I respect Mark and co a lot as well of course, so I didnt want to just dismiss their preferances when they have all the experience and I have none.
But what you say just adds to Biohackers reports, and this encourages me that I wont regret getting just the wand and 18mm bowl from them, and a different, less restrictive water tool.

Even the Roor 18 inch icemaster interests me a little, the Vrip crew have videod it so it gets their seal of approval, although I guess they had the 14 mm joint.

Still, it is a big piece, I may not want that as my sole and primary rig, and it will cost around £180, similar to the Vrip PerK, but closer to home.
Or a much cheaper piece from dhgate.

Or the Blackleaf store has some great looking pieces for very good prices.
I look forward to hearing what Mark tells you about the wand.
You also had the new 4.2 bowl before as well I believe, which you must have thought was coming with this rig.
Still a number of decisions for me to make but getting closer. Thanks for the insights.

Oh yeah, Im sure all modern Vrip water tools are 14 mm, so if you vuy the wand and bowl seperately, unless you get the 14 mm, then if you decide to pick up their water tools later on, you would need another bowl as well (or at least part of it if they sell them separately or not due to potential tolerance issues.

 

[lazylathe]

@Alexis

I would recommend getting the wand and bowl setup in whatever size most of your glass is that you own.
With every new vape i gravitate towards testing it on my favorite WT.
If it performs well on my big tube then it will perform well on my smaller rigs.
I can also use it on my 14mm rigs with an 18 to 14 reducer, so really versatile!

On the other hand if you are looking at buying the whole setup from Vrip then i would most likely go with their recommendations and use the wand solely with their glass.

I can tell you i taste things in the strains i have now!
This one strain, Jedi Kush, tastes very green on the first exhale kind of like a bad cure job?
Then the GSC are just perfect in every sense!
It's a vape that will show you flaws in your buds!

 

[Alexis]

@Alexis

I would recommend getting the wand and bowl setup in whatever size most of your glass is that you own.
With every new vape i gravitate towards testing it on my favorite WT.
If it performs well on my big tube then it will perform well on my smaller rigs.
I can also use it on my 14mm rigs with an 18 to 14 reducer, so really versatile!

On the other hand if you are looking at buying the whole setup from Vrip then i would most likely go with their recommendations and use the wand solely with their glass.

I can tell you i taste things in the strains i have now!
This one strain, Jedi Kush, tastes very green on the first exhale kind of like a bad cure job?
Then the GSC are just perfect in every sense!
It's a vape that will show you flaws in your buds!

Thanks. That is the thing though, I dont really have any glass. I got my large Verdamper in 2009, my first ever glass bong thing. (I got my first vaporizer in 1999 however).

Then in 2015 I switched to the Herborizer sphere after first trying the Aromed. I bought a double honeycomb dhgate bong to use the Aromed with, which never worked obviously!
But the bong was terrible,,even with the Herborizer. The high drag KILLED me, I hated it!

Last year I picked up the D2020 (?) and that is pretty much my total glass experience.
I only use D2020 with the Omnivap now. With the Herborizer it is too hot on my lungs,
I prefer the greater water volume of the xl sphere.

No experience with larger glass bongs or ice notches etc. So I can only look and guess at the Vrip tools for example.
I think I just need to go with my gut and the 18mm bowl and a water piece with ice notches and low drag.
No urgency though. I used my Omnivap 2 days last week, after a while of not. It messes up my hand injuries. But I was amazed at how stoned I got of so little weed. I had just been using the Herborizer for months and it was like getting stoned for the first time in a while, a really complete buzz.

I never realised how much I liked it before. And I used barely any weed. So now I have ordered a vapcap induction heater to avoid hand issues.
The other reservation I have with the VHW is my need to ration weed supply. I bet it could be real easy to go through weed with the Vriptech because it is so enjoyable, and the 4.2 bowl has a decent capacity.

If not sooner, then when I feel confident this year's summer autos will make it in style it will be game on for sure.
Otherwise there will be nothing for time forseeable, due to my allergies to all ferts in weed I could get.

But to be honest, I really couldnt afford weed anyway- some serious sacrifices on the health front!

 

[PPN]

The Vrip is definitly able to do microdosing very well.... if you use another bowl than the 4.2, I used a cheap bowl made for smokers and it was working very well (as well for concentrates!), maybe @splitz can share...

I miss mine ..... the new version catch my eyes but I'm still trying to resist....

 

[Alexis]

The Vrip is definitly able to do microdosing very well.... if you use another bowl than the 4.2, I used a cheap bowl made for smokers and it was working very well (as well for concentrates!), maybe @splitz can share...

I miss mine ..... the new version catch my eyes but I'm still trying to resist....

Thanks for reminding me of that. I will have to keep that in mind and pick up a smaller bowl as well. It is always nice to have options!
I am curious, I dont knowmif it is right to ask you this here, but I would rather it out in the open than hidden in private message:

I am interested to hear briefly sometime, how you find the expereince of the Vrio and the Herborizer Ti next to each other?

In terms of effect, smoothness, ease and enjoyment of use, satisfaction and fullness of buzz. And of course, efficiency in terms the high you getbfrom the amount of weed you put in.

There is no question the new Herbo Ti is miles leagues above the Herbo XL, but people have always compared the wand and Herborizer closely together as if in the same bracket.

So if you feel that the Vrip can compete with or even match the new Ti version, this speaks very highly of Vrip! Just curious really.

 

[splitz]

@PPN is correct - the VHW can microdose very well. I will provide a pic of said microdosing bowl when home from work tonight. I've actually put away all other desktops with the exception of the RoorXL and VHW/VripBub...

 

[Alexis]

@PPN is correct - the VHW can microdose very well. I will provide a pic of said microdosing bowl when home from work tonight. I've actually put away all other desktops with the exception of the RoorXL and VHW/VripBub...

What I would be really keen to know however- if you had the new Ti Herborizer, would you put them BOTH away? Obviously you cant answer that. @PPN is the only man I know right now who may be able to comment.

But his expressions imply that he would still be very happy using the VHW alongside the Ti model.

 

[splitz]

Not a fan of the aesthetics of Ti Herbo. Strictly a flower man myself, so the concentrate functionality would be lost on me... I prefer the delicacy of my all-glass units. VHW teamed with Roor bubbler is ridiculous.

What I would be really keen to know however- if you had the new Ti Herborizer, would you put them BOTH away? Obviously you cant answer that. @PPN is the only man I know right now who may be able to comment.

But his expressions imply that he would still be very happy using the VHW alongside the Ti model.

 

[lazylathe]

I prefer the delicacy of my all-glass units. VHW teamed with Roor bubbler is ridiculous.

I have to agree with you here man!!
The VHW works flawlessly with the big RooR tube!

One thing i have discovered with the VHW though is this:
If you are looking for the BEST flavor around, use a sparkling clean water tool every time!
It makes a HUGE difference!

 

[Alexis]

I really am itching to get the wand direct from Vriptech. I just slapped a basket together to tease myself and see what the total is. Shipping is pretty high though at $69.

So for the VHW and bowl kit, plus 2 packs glass screens, 2 packs silicone tip seals, and the glass stand (not essential I know), with shipping, totals- $368.

That is without customs on top, which may not be the full rate depending on declared value. Ideally I would hope to avoid customs altogether, as I will still need a good water tool as well.

Can any UK Vrip owners please chime in? What was your experience with customs? Did you have to pay customs at all, it can sometimes be avoided, but I have never ordered from Vrip so it would help to know what to expect.

 

[splitz]

Did you have to pay customs at all, it can sometimes be avoided, but I have never ordered from Vrip so it would help to know what to expect.

FWIW, on my last order from Mark I was charged $36USD at checkout (>$200 purchase of goods) for shipping. My package arrived with $15.60 shipping sticker, however, the declared gift value was $75... not sure if I saved money on customs/taxes with the CAD money difference.

 

[PPN]

About the Vrip/Herborizer Ti comparison....hmmm about taste the Vrip is definitly the winner but for clouds you can go a step further with the Herborizer Ti since you can add a slight amount a conduction with a plus or less short heat soak.
Although if you are sensitive about throat irritation you might to remenber all this terpènes induces a sort of "rush"(thanks to @biohacker for this word) which can induces coughing especially for the first and second hits.

Concentrates vaping is a bit more difficult (but doable without any doubt) using the vrip since it's full convection, the possible added conduction of the Herbo Ti can helps here.
And the Vrip is slightly more technic to handle, need to be very gentle with the wand and there is a slightly larger learning curve, the Ti is more idiot-proof. The Wand is definitly a connoisseur device, not for everybody only for the vaping geeks!

 

[Whissmu]

It's good to receive news!

I have a heat wand with 18 months and it although I have more vapes, the VHW is my favorite, for its taste, for its ritual, for everything that gives me with my pieces of glass! If it were not for its delicacy and that it is necessary a piece of water for work ! for my would be the perfect vape.

I'm recently Transcending from the glass to the wood .. surely Sacrifice taste for durability ... but as a favorite experience always elect the glass

 

[biohacker]

Hey Mark, just curious about the future.....a VHW with a gong on the end for hands free operation and perfect seal?

Nice to see this thread picking up!

 

[Alexis]

Nice to see this thread picking up!

Too right! If I get meself a Vrip in near future, I will mak sute to come here and REPRESENT!

There dont seem to be very many Vrip owners who actually visit or view this thread these days, to even shoot questions out to to get a broader market opinion, such as favorite water tools, joint size bowls, etc etc, which is a shame.

 

[biohacker]

Especially considering this this is a CONNOISSEUR vape, like the Herborizer!

I think it has alot to do with marketing.

 

[lazylathe]

I think it has alot to do with marketing.

Or lack thereof.
I think there may be a few online places that sell Vrip stuff but not many.
It's more of a word of mouth type of Cannasseur Vape! LOL!

Need to make a video of mine in action soon!

 

[Alexis]

Or lack thereof.
I think there may be a few online places that sell Vrip stuff but not many.
It's more of a word of mouth type of Cannasseur Vape! LOL!

Need to make a video of mine in action soon!

You are right about that. There are VERY limited options for buying in europe. Just 2 places as far as I am aware- Alchimia and Hortitiec, both with most options out of stock.

Verdampftnochmal used to stock it, but no longer. They would be ideal for me if they did, great prices and free shipping, no customs.

But then I also do things properly, with spares (screens, tip seals etc), so I would kind of have to go to Vrip no matter what.
If only shipping and customs was not so much extra that is all!

 

[lazylathe]

You are right about that. There are VERY limited options for buying in europe. Just 2 places as far as I am aware- Alchimia and Hortitiec, both with most options out of stock.

Verdampftnochmal used to stock it, but no longer. They would be ideal for me if they did, great prices and free shipping, no customs.

But then I also do things properly, with spares (screens, tip seals etc), so I would kind of have to go to Vrip no matter what.
If only shipping and customs was not so much extra that is all!

I recently shipped a vaporizer to the UK and valued it at $100 CAD and the guy paid no duties at all.
May be an option to talk to Mark about?
Shipping unfortunately was quite expensive and there is no way to get around that aspect...