Volcano

[vapeguy]

I agree with the bags on herbalizer apparently you can modify the volcano bags with the herbalizer. I recommend the volcano you won't be disappointed! Too bad the SSS didn't have a digital readout

I already had a Volcano twice which is why I know I like it. I also don't necessarily want digital temperature control, just analog/mechanical temperature control (like the Volcano classic) would be fine too. However my Volcano classic fell twice off the table right onto it's temp adjustment button which knocks the temperature calibration way off (after the fall I could set it to max temp when it was cold and it refused to heat at all). I was able to get it back into a usable range by taking it apart but the temps have been slightly off ever since the fall. That's one reason I want the digit, it won't be rendered useless from a simple fall like the classic, and it maintains the temperature way more accurately, for those reasons I've decided it's worth the extra money for the digital.

 

[TboneToker]

I already had a Volcano twice which is why I know I like it. I also don't necessarily want digital temperature control, just analog/mechanical temperature control (like the Volcano classic) would be fine too. However my Volcano classic fell twice off the table right onto it's temp adjustment button which knocks the temperature calibration way off (after the fall I could set it to max temp when it was cold and it refused to heat at all). I was able to get it back into a usable range by taking it apart but the temps have been slightly off ever since the fall. That's one reason I want the digit, it won't be rendered useless from a simple fall like the classic, and it maintains the temperature way more accurately, for those reasons I've decided it's worth the extra money for the digital.

Hmm I don't know how it's always falling! Be careful mate a fall can break a digit volcano too! Anyways good luck with the digit!

 

[vapeguy]

It wasn't always falling, I had a Volcano for many many years and it fell twice in that time. I would think the digit would be much more resistant to a fall than the fragile temp control of the classic.

 

[OhThatYourGirl]

Hello everyone. I've tried to go back many pages to see if there was someone asking if the Volcano was right for them with the same smoking habits as me and couldn't find one. Hopefully one of you great people can help me out.

I've been a bong smoker for the past few years and love the high it gives me. I usually get an energetic sweet high. I've built up quite the tolerance. I usually buy an 8th every 10 days but mainly stick to bong rips.

I've been using this bong http://www.grasscity.com/us_en/glass-waterpipe-you-beauty.html#.Vqc0hZMrLdQ but notice that there was resin starting to build up and didn't want to smoke dirty water any more (I change the water every few days but after a couple hit the ash is going to make the water dirty). The bong would also get me plastered if I packed it a couple times.

My questions are:
1) Is it really as efficient as they say. How long does an 8th last you if you smoke about 5 times a day?
2) Is it worth the money? I know the thing is built extremely well and that's what attracts me.
3) What are some of its competitors and does it rein supreme?

Thanks for the help in advance I greatly appreciate the help!

 

[Poostuff]

Hello everyone. I've tried to go back many pages to see if there was someone asking if the Volcano was right for them with the same smoking habits as me and couldn't find one. Hopefully one of you great people can help me out.

I've been a bong smoker for the past few years and love the high it gives me. I usually get an energetic sweet high. I've built up quite the tolerance. I usually buy an 8th every 10 days but mainly stick to bong rips.

I've been using this bong http://www.grasscity.com/us_en/glass-waterpipe-you-beauty.html#.Vqc0hZMrLdQ but notice that there was resin starting to build up and didn't want to smoke dirty water any more (I change the water every few days but after a couple hit the ash is going to make the water dirty). The bong would also get me plastered if I packed it a couple times.

My questions are:
1) Is it really as efficient as they say. How long does an 8th last you if you smoke about 5 times a day?
2) Is it worth the money? I know the thing is built extremely well and that's what attracts me.
3) What are some of its competitors and does it rein supreme?

Thanks for the help in advance I greatly appreciate the help!

Are you asking about the Volcano or vaporizers in general?
Are they efficient, yes vaporizers can cut your usage, some models more than others. Personally I've halved mine.
Are they worth the money, they're overpriced but not overrated.
Does the Volcano have any competition, yes lots & they're all good in different ways.
Using a vaporizer is different from smoking, in my opinion the effects are stronger but less addictive & not as energetic.

 

[OhThatYourGirl]

Are you asking about the Volcano or vaporizers in general?
Are they efficient, yes vaporizers can cut your usage, some models more than others. Personally I've halved mine.
Are they worth the money, they're overpriced but not overrated.
Does the Volcano have any competition, yes lots & they're all good in different ways.
Using a vaporizer is different from smoking, in my opinion the effects are stronger but less addictive & not as energetic.

Thank you for your reply. I was asking those questions mainly directed at the Volcano. Which other vaporizers would you put in the same conversation as the Volcano when it comes to build quality and performance?

 

[Poostuff]

I have preferences @OhThatYourGirl but I won't compare them all on this thread.
I don't use the Volcano often but when I do it works really well. It's easy to use & for me always been reliable.

 

[TboneToker]

Hello everyone. I've tried to go back many pages to see if there was someone asking if the Volcano was right for them with the same smoking habits as me and couldn't find one. Hopefully one of you great people can help me out.

I've been a bong smoker for the past few years and love the high it gives me. I usually get an energetic sweet high. I've built up quite the tolerance. I usually buy an 8th every 10 days but mainly stick to bong rips.

I've been using this bong http://www.grasscity.com/us_en/glass-waterpipe-you-beauty.html#.Vqc0hZMrLdQ but notice that there was resin starting to build up and didn't want to smoke dirty water any more (I change the water every few days but after a couple hit the ash is going to make the water dirty). The bong would also get me plastered if I packed it a couple times.

My questions are:
1) Is it really as efficient as they say. How long does an 8th last you if you smoke about 5 times a day?
2) Is it worth the money? I know the thing is built extremely well and that's what attracts me.
3) What are some of its competitors and does it rein supreme?

Thanks for the help in advance I greatly appreciate the help!

I smoked out of bongs for a few years. Going through 1.5 to 2g a day. I got a volcano recently and haven't really wanted to smoke since. My consumption has remained the same only because I am really just enjoying the vaporizer a lot and can keep going instead of stopping like I would with smoke, so the consumption is equal but I'm getting more out of it.

It is worth the money to me, all my vapes are. Because once I owned each of them I wondered how I went without them. Especially the Solo(or any reliable portable really like the Mighty!) and the volcano because of their ease of use and quickness to get me medicated.

Other equally good vapes are the Plenty which to me is the vape that is most likely a bing rip and You should check it out since you like this company and the volcano. The plenty is so great I might get one even though I own a high end whip style vape already, or The Mighty also made by Storz and Bickel but it's portable. The Super Silver Surfer looks fabulous too

 

[OhThatYourGirl]

Thank you Tbone. I've been looking at a VapeXhale Cloud Evo, how would you guys compare it to the Volcano? I usually toke by myself. I'm really just looking for a very reliable vape that consumes a little, but get me very hi.

 

[TboneToker]

Thank you Tbone. I've been looking at a VapeXhale Cloud Evo, how would you guys compare it to the Volcano? I usually toke by myself. I'm really just looking for a very reliable vape that consumes a little, but get me very hi.

The Evo is equally as good as the volcano, better for those large bong like rips, the plenty is a lot like the Evo. They are all efficient and will get you ripped once you know how to use them, and they're all easy to use. Just draw hard or slow cause these three models all work well no matter how you draw, and hold it in and squeeze the vapor with your lungs you'll be hazed!

I recommend you look at the plenty because it's a bit cheaper than the Evo but the build quality is equal or superior and it doesn't require a water tool because the coil shaped like a twirl actually cools the vapor a lot! If you have water tools then definitely go with the Evo these are all great desktop units!

 

[vapeguy]

I'm quite sure I'm going to get a Volcano for a third and hopefully final time, and I decided I'll go with the Digit for the first time. I keep reselling it thinking I've found something better only to later find out it really isn't. My current vape is the LSV which at first I thought was better than the Volcano and it certainly makes good vapor but in the few years I had it I had to repair it many times, and now it's just beyond repair.

I heard in a video that pressing the air/pump button resets the 30 minute auto off timer, is this right? I was assuming the count down timer would only reset when the temp +/- buttons are pressed.

I still remember 2 tricks I had with the Volcano, I would put the solid valve chamber on the Volcano, turn on the air pump and shine a flashlight over it and waited a few seconds for vapor to be visible before connecting the bag to avoid diluting the vapor with the air you get the first few seconds. My second trick was to take the filling chamber off the Volcano before turning off the pump, this prevents vapor from flowing backwards inside the Volcano which would dirty the internal air path over time which can't be cleaned AFAIK,

 

[To_thy_cloud]

I was considering the herbalizer but a review update says the bags and valve rip after only a few weeks which isn't acceptable at its price. The Volcano valve lasts forever and it costs less (the vape not the valve).

I do have an LSV which was great but it's now falling apart and because 7th Floor vapes have no active temperature control they are annoying to use where I live now as the voltage fluctuates significantly as heaters or the ac go on and off, causing these vapes temp to fluctuate as the ac or heating start and stop. For this reason a vape with active temperature control is an absolute must.

I'm now almost sure I'll get the Volcano digit, I just wasn't planning on spending anywhere near that much so I may try to make my LSV last a bit longer but it really is falling apart so it doesn't have much longer.

You can use the volcano solid valve bags and put them onto the Herbalizer's green squeeze nozzle. All in all you're right though. The Volcano is much more sturdy all around. Valve, unit, bags.

 

[THE KISS FREAK]

@vapeguy , Great choice IMHO. Great German made Quality Product, Solidly built of Quality Materials & Lab Tested for Safety and Purity.. I love my Digital Volcano, had it almost 9 months now. Works Awesome. I got the Easy Valve & love it, I use the liquid pad for small loads. I also bought the Solid Valve at same time as well, but have yet to use it. I've read somewhere here in the last few days that it's bowl (solid valve) is adjustable due to plunger? Not sure yet though, but am intrigued now that I've learned that, I'll definitely be pulling it out soon to try & see for myself.

I just got a Plenty on Friday and all I can say is wow, works as advertised testing continues. More on it later in plenty thread. I mentioned this because I believe that you had mentioned it as well?
Vapeguy good luck in choosing your next Vape

 

[vapeguy]

@vapeguy , Great choice IMHO. Great German made Quality Product, Solidly built of Quality Materials & Lab Tested for Safety and Purity.. I love my Digital Volcano, had it almost 9 months now. Works Awesome. I got the Easy Valve & love it, I use the liquid pad for small loads. I also bought the Solid Valve at same time as well, but have yet to use it. I've read somewhere here in the last few days that it's bowl (solid valve) is adjustable due to plunger? Not sure yet though, but am intrigued now that I've learned that, I'll definitely be pulling it out soon to try & see for myself.

I just got a Plenty on Friday and all I can say is wow, works as advertised testing continues. More on it later in plenty thread. I mentioned this because I believe that you had mentioned it as well?
Vapeguy good luck in choosing your next Vape

Thanks, in case you missed it I've had the Volcano classic twice before so I know how good it is, but want to go for the Digit this time. I would definitely get the solid valve again which is the one I had on my first 2, I'm the one that said I think it's infinitely better due to the adjustable size chamber, AFAIK it's the only vape with an adjustable size chamber (when used with the solid valve). I wouldn't even consider the easy valve because I don't want to be forced to use large amounts or put a metal pad that will probably get clogged and wear out with time which also basically limits you to only 2 specific amounts while the solid valve lets you use as much or as little as you want by adjusting to how much you fill it.

The solid valve can easily be disconnected from the chamber with a single hand (just press in the release tabs on each side with it over a table and the herb chamber falls off freely), the easy valve has to be pulled off to separate from the chamber which means you need two hands as it won't just drop freely.

I honestly consider that there are 2 Volcanoes (and I don't mean classic or Digit), the solid valve Volcano and the Easy Valve Volcano, since the valve is where the vaporization occurs and their design couldn't be any more different, you'll have a completely different experience with one over the other.

I don't know what S&B had in their Volcano when they came up with the easy valve but I honestly think it never should have been created, I don't think people with a Volcano and easy valve realize how much better it would perform with the original solid valve, it makes it a completely different much better quality vape.

Please try your solid valve and let me know if you agree about the solid valve being better in so many ways (use any amount you want, easier handling, much cheaper and customizable bags).

I think the easy valve was made for those that don't want to cut their own balloons and I think there's nothing to clean as the valve is disposable, but I think you really reduce the performance of the Volcano by using this valve while increasing your costs as the balloons with pre-attached valves are more expensive. I just looked at the cost of easy valve bags, it's beyond absurd, I already hated the easy valve, I hate it even more seeing how it makes you pay a ridiculous amount for bags all while limiting the efficiency of the Volcano.

Again I'm saying this without ever having used the easy valve, but from videos I saw explaining how it works I think they never should have created it, they should have made a pre-made bag option that can work with their solid valve, or at the very least keep the adjustable size chamber mechanism in the easy valve.

 

[TboneToker]

AFAIK it's the only vape with an adjustable size chamber (when used with the solid valve). I wouldn't even consider the easy valve because I don't want to be forced to use large amounts or put a metal pad that will probably get clogged and wear out with time which also basically limits you to only 2 specific amounts while the solid valve lets you use as much or as little as you want by adjusting to how much you fill it.

The solid valve can easily be disconnected from the chamber with a single hand (just press in the release tabs on each side with it over a table and the herb chamber falls off freely), the easy valve has to be pulled off to separate from the chamber which means you need two hands as it won't just drop freely.


I think the easy valve was made for those that don't want to cut their own balloons and I think there's nothing to clean as the valve is disposable, but I think you really reduce the performance of the Volcano by using this valve while increasing your costs as the balloons with pre-attached valves. I just looked at the cost of easy valve bags, it's beyond absurd, I already hated the easy valve, I hate it even more seeing how it makes you pay a ridiculous amount for bags all while limiting the efficiency of the Volcano.

Again I'm saying this without ever having used the easy valve, but from videos I saw explaining how it works I think they never should have created it, they should have made a pre-made bag option that can work with their solid valve, or at the very least keep the adjustable size chamber mechanism in the easy valve.

The easy valve works great with tiny amounts or large amounts, you can actually put more in it than the solid so it's just as adjustable as the solid or more. Using the liquid pad with it means you can use from 0.05 to 0.3 anything over 0.3 I will not use the liquid pad but the chamber can hold anywhere from 0.05-0.8+ and get great results, I'd say get the solid valve since you like it but you may also like the easy valve due to the ease of the maintenance it comes with. Anyways, just wanted to let you know that the easy valve isn't only two different chamber fills but actually anywhere from 0.05 to 0.8+

 

[TboneToker]

New volcano trick!!!


So if you have the easy valve then take only the top part of it, turn your volcano temp up to max and then sit then top part of the chamber onto the volcano and gently hold it while flicking the fan on and voilà, vapor!! It's probably from the residue that is inside and it's a neat little trick if you want to get a bit more without using another nug up/filling a bowl

 

[Poostuff]

New volcano trick!!!


So if you have the easy valve then take only the top part of it, turn your volcano temp up to max and then sit then top part of the chamber onto the volcano and gently hold it while flicking the fan on and voilà, vapor!! It's probably from the residue that is inside and it's a neat little trick if you want to get a bit more without using another nug up/filling a bowl

Don't vape it all off, I've collected some of the best reclaim I've ever had from the top of the easy valve. Let it build up & scrape it into a shiny little ball. I don't reclaim much but that stuff is awesome & tastes great.
I agree with you on the easy valve. You don't need two hands it clicks on & off easily with one hand, almost too easily.
Yes the bags are absurdly expensive & the solid valves are much better value but other than that there aren't any other advantages I can see.
I've only used the easy valve so I can't comment on how they compare but the easy valve is pretty fucking easy.
If the solid valve produced more or thicker vapour from the same amount, then I'd buy it & save money on bags as well, but I'm under the assumption that it doesn't. It's good they make both it's nice to have options.

 

[TboneToker]

Don't vape it all off, I've collected some of the best reclaim I've ever had from the top of the easy valve. Let it build up & scrape it into a shiny little ball. I don't reclaim much but that stuff is awesome & tastes great.
I agree with you on the easy valve. You don't need two hands it clicks on & off easily with one hand, almost too easily.
Yes the bags are absurdly expensive & the solid valves are much better value but other than that there aren't any other advantages I can see.
I've only used the easy valve so I can't comment on how they compare but the easy valve is pretty fucking easy.
If the solid valve produced more or thicker vapour from the same amount, then I'd buy it & save money on bags as well, but I'm under the assumption that it doesn't. It's good they make both it's nice to have options.

Oh I know I will probably reclaim It with iso just wanted to share! Thanks (:

I was always under the impression that the easy valve was overall an upgrade they just offered the solid as a preference mostly cause people like making big or smaller bags. But i was always under the impression that the valve system was better and I have never had better bags on the solid over the easy, if I am vaping a smaller amount I place the liquid pad for a thicker quicker extraction it works just like the size changer on the solid valve.

 

[vapeguy]

The easy valve works great with tiny amounts or large amounts, you can actually put more in it than the solid

Have you actually seen both valves? The solid valve chamber is absolutely huge, probably over 5 times larger than the 2nd largest vape chamber I've seen. I've never fully filled it and weighed it but I would guess it can hold a few grams. I have a hard time believing the easy valve would be even bigger (in photos and videos its chamber seems smaller), though I never fully filled my solid valve as it's absurdly big and wouldn't want it any bigger.

if I am vaping a smaller amount I place the liquid pad for a thicker quicker extraction it works just like the size changer on the solid valve.

The easy valve only allows 2 fixed sizes, with and without the pad. The solid valve is infinitely adjustable from 0 to what I would think is a few grams it can hold in the largest position (again I never filled it fully and weighed but the chamber is enormous on the solid valve).

Has anyone ever weighed how much fits in the solid vs easy valve when both are full?

 

[TboneToker]

Have you actually seen both valves? The solid valve chamber is absolutely huge, probably over 5 times larger than the 2nd largest vape chamber I've seen. I've never fully filled it and weighed it but I would guess it can hold a few grams. I have a hard time believing the easy valve would be even bigger (in photos and videos its chamber seems smaller), though I never fully filled my solid valve as it's absurdly big and wouldn't want it any bigger.



The easy valve only allows 2 fixed sizes, with and without the pad. The solid valve is infinitely adjustable from 0 to what I would think is a few grams it can hold in the largest position (again I never filled it fully and weighed but the chamber is enormous on the solid valve).

Has anyone ever weighed how much fits in the solid vs easy valve when both are full?

I don't understand what you mean by 2 sizes it has any size you want as you can put the liquid pad with it and any level

 

[Poostuff]

This is interesting but unless you regularly use both both valves or at least have them both sitting in front of you discussing the pros & cons of each based on a photo seems a little pointless @vapeguy

 

[TheMasterBlaster]

So, where is the best place to buy one online?

Sorry if it has been posted already...

Imma noob.

 

[h3rbalist]

So, where is the best place to buy one online?

Sorry if it has been posted already...

Imma noob.

What part of the planet are you based?


Me personally, I would buy a used one from ebay.

 

[THE KISS FREAK]

@TheMasterBlaster , I got mine from Vapor Nation, but everyone has the same price. Storz and Bickel lowered their prices a while back on all their products and Never offer sales or discounts! So it really doesn't matter where you get it. V.N. always gives you Free stuff & Free shipping. But if in a Hurry, you could get it from S. & B. and get Free Next Day Delivery.

Good luck purchasing, you won't be disappointed. I my Digital Volcano

 

[TheMasterBlaster]

Thanks for the responses... I'm in the USA.