Volcano

[Slow Draw McGraw]

Well dang, I guess I need the easy valve.

 

[Justpassedu]

So if we have the Easy Valve already can we buy the capsule setup separate or do we have to purchase a whole new Easy Valve made for it ?

Answered my own question - http://www.storz-bickel.com/shop_eu/en/shop/easy-valve/easy-valve-filling-chamber-reducer.html

I was going to buy 1 but I am not paying $8 for shipping on such a small part , I'll wait it out until they trickle down to ebay as I just paid $100 for a new easy valve setup the other day.

 

[Vitolo]

I am trying to order the reducer insert for a local patient, but the S&B site is not letting me move to the checkout page.

 

[Justpassedu]

I am trying to order the reducer insert for a local patient, but the S&B site is not letting me move to the checkout page.

Hmm I had no problem but than again I used paypal option and than at checkout I said fuck it and didn't finish my order , maybe try the American site - http://www.storz-bickel.com/shop_us/en/shop/easy-valve.html

 

[Vitolo]

It was my browser. I had to change to a more modern browser.
does the insert http://www.storz-bickel.com/shop_us/en/easy-valve-filling-chamber-reducer-210.html
just fit into my existing EZ Valve Chamber without me having to remove the screens?

 

[MinnBobber]

FCers that get the Easy Valve Chamber Reducer:

Will it work in the Solid Valve chamber , with the rod/screen removed or retracted into upper position/ not down into chamber?
Any reason they are pimping the Solid valve owners?

 

[Vitolo]

Will it work in the Solid Valve chamber , with the rod/screen removed or retracted into upper position/ not down into chamber?

I do not see this as physically possible. The Solid valve chamber opening is too small

 

[Justpassedu]

It was my browser. I had to change to a more modern browser.
does the insert http://www.storz-bickel.com/shop_us/en/easy-valve-filling-chamber-reducer-210.html
just fit into my existing EZ Valve Chamber without me having to remove the screens?

I am not 100% sure on that from the pics it looks like it should .


** Edit : I did not realize Storz & Bickel does Free Shipping on Orders over $25 so I grabbed three things -
Subtotal $26.70
Shipping (Standard) $0.00
Incl. Tax
$0.00
Grand Total $26.70
EASY VALVE Filling Chamber Reducer
$12.90 1 $12.90
Magazine with 8 Dosing Capsules
$6.90 1 $6.90
Liquid Pad Set for Dosing Capsules


I'll let you know if its a direct drop into the easy valve chamber when they arrive @Vitolo

 

[Vapinmofo]

So it's been a little more time and I'm getting good at operating my Vokcano Classic.

So like many of us I have watched a number of YouTube videos about the Vokcano. The ones with a guy blasting through 3 or 4 3 foot bags are rediculious. I diverge. My point is, my unit is a SLOW filler. My vapor quality is very good on 6. Even the first bag is great!
I am able to use a good hit sized bud grind it medium fine (been using the one that came with my crafty) I don't like my big metal grinder at the moment.

The herbs cover the bottom of the chamber and end up being around 1/8 " deep. It can be deeper if it's fluffy grind.

I have tried small quantities with the liquid pad on top and did not find this to be any different. Than using it without. I must be missing something.

I used the liquid pad to vaporize some shatter.
One word. WOW.

I'm not into extracts much. I do appreciate a tasty dab once in a while.
Well the volcano made quick work of a small dab of shatter on the pad. 2 bags later I was ripped to the gills off the thick vapor. Temp on max.

This works very very well imho. The taste was fantastic. Smooth as a good whisky and a great effect.

A good hit sized flower bud fills the bag 2x with tasty vapor.

More herbs make for thicker vapor and more bags per load.

I'm working towards using the minimum herbs required to fill the bag 2x without getting harsh.
I think I'm close.

No matter what my consumption is down. I am able to procure a wide variety of herbs and shatters waxes rosins in my local area. This makes using the volcano so useful because it's so cool to be able to taste the full flavor of the different herbs. Other machines don't give all there is. More variety gives more chances at finding great tastes and really finding the best flower or extract that's best for my condition.

Vapinmofo

 

[Justpassedu]

Ok so 1st night back with my classic , I did about 4 bags with easy valve , reg sized bag , cano was blowing them in about 20 seconds wich was super quick , they are the small bags though. Used heat setting 6 on the dial and bumped my way to 7. They didn't fill up super dense like I wanted . I did grind and put a good amount in the easy chamber . I remember my solid valve filling up my bags thicker in the past. Maybe it's my material , I'll have to try a different strain as it was not so dry . Def brought back some good memories and now I want a bigger bag . I was surprised at how quickly the fan was working after all these years .

 

[Vitolo]

and now I want a bigger bag

Sometimes bigger is better. I built this bag

Tutorial is :
here
and
also here
l...........

I'll let you know if its a direct drop into the easy valve chamber when they arrive @Vitolo

I was asked to order a pair of the Reducers and capsules by a local patient.
I was given his blessings to test it out when it comes prior to delivering them.
We will have many notes to compare.

 

[Justpassedu]

Sometimes bigger is better. I built this bag

Tutorial is :
here
and
also here
l...........

I was asked to order a pair of the Reducers and capsules by a local patient.
I was given his blessings to test it out when it comes prior to delivering them.
We will have many notes to compare.

Sweet how many ft is that ? I see they have 2ft for about $11 shipped on eBay with the mp. That looks like a pretty dense fill up too . I am not 1 for small sessions but I figured the capsule system is good to have as I have a mighty also I'd like to try them with. I'll give them a good test on both and well compare some notes.

 

[Vitolo]

I was going to make a 6 footer for myself, but realized that the perfect amount of vapor was a little bit more than half that.
42 inches.. 3 and a half feet
6 feet was hard to finish.
3 feet left me medicated but still wanting more.
42 inches was the right amount.
I tend to get up after a few hits (or one bag) and start working as soon as I think I feel better, but am not always fully medicated.. and sometimes I like to insure that fully medicated state.
This bag is my insurance, because once a full bag is in my hand, it will get finished much more likely than not.
42 inches .. 3.5 feet is the right length for it to not have to touch the ground as I sit in chair, and it never collides with anything when I stand!

 

[Vapinmofo]

You guys with 3.5 foot bags!! are stout!
Maybe I should build a bigger bag!! I do find myself refilling often. Maybe a bigger bag will help.
Personally I think it is nuts to fill and refill...within one session its just a bit much for me anyway. a two footer works pretty darn well.

I have ordered the easy valve size reduction chamber and a few capsules.

What is great about this is the IDEA of consistent dosing. Imagine a care giver being able to prepare the capsules in advance. Drop in and and get perfect exact consistent dosing every time.

Soon we will be able to buy these pre-filled!!

Anyway. I will experiment more. What I have learned is that not much herbs are required to get a good 2 foot bag filled with vapor.

At first I loaded too much into the chamber. too dense too harsh.

Now I put a minimum of herbs and still get a great effect. perfect density and zero harshness AND great Flavor.

It will be interesting to see how this new system works for people. We will all be able to work (COMPARE) from a common fill size or very close.

It will be interesting to compare a capsules weight before and after use.
It will be interesting to weigh a capsule after use in a volcano and after use in a crafty/plenty/mighty to see which actually is the best at extraction...

VAPINMOFO

 

[Justpassedu]

Have any of you experimented with using the liquid pad on top of your herbs in the easy valve ? Wondering if it may provide a denser bag fill. I did a few bags the other night at 7 on the dial which I believe is about 394f. First bag tasted great with a full easy valve and was nice and thick , taste dropped off after that 1st bag fill and the other 2 I made didn't taste so great but I wanted those high temp effects. Gonna pick up a 3ft pre made easy valve bag soon as they aren't to pricey and give that a try. If anyone has any parts for the solid valve they are not using please let me know as I been looking for everything but the fill chamber 2nd hand .

 

[Vapinmofo]

Have any of you experimented with using the liquid pad on top of your herbs in the easy valve ? Wondering if it may provide a denser bag fill. I did a few bags the other night at 7 on the dial which I believe is about 394f. First bag tasted great with a full easy valve and was nice and thick , taste dropped off after that 1st bag fill and the other 2 I made didn't taste so great but I wanted those high temp effects. Gonna pick up a 3ft pre made easy valve bag soon as they aren't to pricey and give that a try. If anyone has any parts for the solid valve they are not using please let me know as I been looking for everything but the fill chamber 2nd hand .

I have experimented with the liquid pad on top of the herbs. I did not really notice a huge difference. It allows you to use a small amount. the new chamber reducer by S and B will achieve the same thing. a smaller filling chamber.

I use the 6 setting. I get good density and 2 bags from a small amount a small HIT sized bud (Medium Grind) of herbs literally a shallow layer covering the bottom of the filling chamber.
the second bag tastes amazingly good.

If flavor is what you are after go for a lower temperature setting like 6.
I often vill the herb chamber and turn on the Volcano I put the herb chamber in position to let it warm up... I want it to almost get hot. A few minutes (5-10 maybe) then I hit the fan. the vapor density is very good when I do this.

Your mileage may vary because My Volcano has slow fill rate (which I think is a good thing).

I infact so have a bunch of solid valve parts that need cleaning up....
PM me.

Vapinmofo

 

[Vapinmofo]

Have any of you experimented with using the liquid pad on top of your herbs in the easy valve ? Wondering if it may provide a denser bag fill. I did a few bags the other night at 7 on the dial which I believe is about 394f. First bag tasted great with a full easy valve and was nice and thick , taste dropped off after that 1st bag fill and the other 2 I made didn't taste so great but I wanted those high temp effects. Gonna pick up a 3ft pre made easy valve bag soon as they aren't to pricey and give that a try. If anyone has any parts for the solid valve they are not using please let me know as I been looking for everything but the fill chamber 2nd hand .

Forgot to mention this... (merge if you like Sorry)
That liquid pad is not there just for looks!!, It works (very efficiently) with shatter and wax as advertised.
For some people it is easier to titrate with dabs.
Anyway This is something you really need to try for yourself.
Herb DRYNESS, GRIND, QUALITY, THC %, CBD% all have an effect on how your herbs vaporize. What Temperature is used will make a difference (shatter and wax are pretty darn tasty at 100% on the Classic) 100% with flower herbs? I don't think I am even willing to try. it just sounds awful.
in any event I am looking forward to the new valve attachment for reducing the size of the chamber. In my quest to find the smallest quality of herbs to make 2 usable (2x2 foot) bags. this chamber might be perfect.
it will be easy for somebody who has a Volcano a Plenty a Mighty and a Crafty to compare the efficiency of all these machines by removing a major variable, chamber size and air flow.

Airflow is a huge variable. Volcano Airflow is amazing. Crafty good, but tight compared to a volcano balloon or even pulling vapor via the valve filling stem..

more will become obvious once the new capsules and the "adapters" arrive across the world.

vapinmofo

 

[Justpassedu]

Forgot to mention this... (merge if you like Sorry)
That liquid pad is not there just for looks!!, It works (very efficiently) with shatter and wax as advertised.
For some people it is easier to titrate with dabs.
Anyway This is something you really need to try for yourself.
Herb DRYNESS, GRIND, QUALITY, THC %, CBD% all have an effect on how your herbs vaporize. What Temperature is used will make a difference (shatter and wax are pretty darn tasty at 100% on the Classic) 100% with flower herbs? I don't think I am even willing to try. it just sounds awful.
in any event I am looking forward to the new valve attachment for reducing the size of the chamber. In my quest to find the smallest quality of herbs to make 2 usable (2x2 foot) bags. this chamber might be perfect.
it will be easy for somebody who has a Volcano a Plenty a Mighty and a Crafty to compare the efficiency of all these machines by removing a major variable, chamber size and air flow.

Airflow is a huge variable. Volcano Airflow is amazing. Crafty good, but tight compared to a volcano balloon or even pulling vapor via the valve filling stem..

more will become obvious once the new capsules and the "adapters" arrive across the world.

vapinmofo

I sent you a pm the other day by the way. I never tried using the liquid pad only for the pure fact I been happy with my pen I use and when I want to change that up I will usually grab my Cloud Evo and use the glass nail setup. What is a good temp for blowing a bag with the liquid pad and using some Wax ? I was always scared that my wax or shatter would melt through that liquid pad and drip down into the heater.

 

[Vitolo]

What is a good temp for blowing a bag with the liquid pad and using some Wax ? I was always scared that my wax or shatter would melt through that liquid pad and drip down into the heater.

I use it at the top temperature.
I never had any wax or residuals drip through.
Warning about fake Chambers (like the cheaper ones made for the Phantom, that look like a Volcano Chamber)... they will leak wax.

 

[Justpassedu]

I use it at the top temperature.
I never had any wax or residuals drip through.
Warning about fake Chambers (like the cheaper ones made for the Phantom, that look like a Volcano Chamber)... they will leak wax.

Cool thanks , I ended up grabbing the easy valve set off amazon , got it in 2days , its 100% authentic with the seal . I also checked its authenticity online. Now I am using heat setting 7 on the classic for flowers , will try some wax in there shortly.

 

[Vitolo]

@Justpassedu
I just cancelled my orders with S&B and re-ordered adding the liquid pads.
I must have been blind to not see that I was paying MORE to get the items without it due to shipping cost.
Good Catch

 

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@Justpassedu
I just cancelled my orders with S&B and re-ordered adding the liquid pads.
I must have been blind to not see that I was paying MORE to get the items without it due to shipping cost.
Good Catch

wait is there a deal if you spend a certain amount? I'm planning on ordering the chamber reducer, and probably a wear and tear kit

 

[Justpassedu]

wait is there a deal if you spend a certain amount? I'm planning on ordering the chamber reducer, and probably a wear and tear kit

Free shipping over $25

 

[Trypsy Summers]

Just sat chuckling to myself as I'm reading the thread ...
Anyway I gotta say, the Volcano has just sent me into the ZONE, by that, I mean at 10:00pm I was (all lah di dah, di dah di dah), feeling like I'm gonna load up that Volcano to give it a try out! So I loaded it up whilst watching some YouTube documentary, with some WW mixed with reclaim (from my mighty, er sorry, my partners mighty and also from the crafty)

I cranked the Volcano Digit up to 230C cos I like the thick vapor and so when it was full I swiftly partook of a bag of that thick Milky Vapor! Must've been an instant reducer, cos next thing I know I'm coming around, TV blaring, and I'm thinking what the fuck?

I glanced at the clock and its fucking Midnight and I ain't got a clue what's happened!

And that's why the Volcano is the Don - I just Love it! Especially them ones that knock you clean out -no paro attack, no whitey - Just straight to the void!!

Not saying, just saying, without really saying

Peace

 

[elmomuzz]

So I got my reducer today. They actually sent a complete easy valve bowl assembly with reducer in place. I just expected the reducer. Will test soon.