Volcano Hybrid

[Poostuff]

Canopy is a house of cards waiting to crumble. Storz was alright when they first started, customer service fell hard after they released their portables(at least in my experience). Volcano was a game changer when it was first released, I'll give them that.. health canada is pay for play.

How the Hybrid was granted this license while it faces all the problems discovered is beyond me.



https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/can...l-device-license-for-pot-vaporizer-2020-04-04

Health is a business just like anything else, & at the moment that business is fucking booming. Canopy are probably trying to cash in on that & if they do it right they’ll be ok, but I’ve almost had my Hybrid for 12 months & so far I’m a very unsatisfied customer.
I’m confident that low temperature users would have no issues with this thing, but if that’s your kind of usage you probably don’t even need one.

 

[Crafty Vaper]

Health is a business just like anything else, & at the moment that business is fucking booming. Canopy are probably trying to cash in on that & if they do it right they’ll be ok, but I’ve almost had my Hybrid for 12 months & so far I’m a very unsatisfied customer.
I’m confident that low temperature users would have no issues with this thing, but if that’s your kind of usage you probably don’t even need one.

I use my Hybrid most of the time on high temps (200-230) with the whip. I use the coated capsule adapter and have no issues doing so. I use the iteration, Starting at 200 and increasing the temp every four minutes 10 degrees. Finishing at 230. Auto Shutoff is set on thirty minutes, so I can forget the chamber on the Hybrid. No burning or other signs on the filling chamber so far!

 

[guyonthecouch]

A portable is very different from a desktop vape. On a portable there’s a smaller heating element, but it still has to go to pretty high temps, there’s a battery and they are close. You can’t compare Volcano issues to Crafty’s. And SB initially had a policy on return that was very accomodating. They changed it during the years not go bankrupt as Ghost of MV1. I followed Craftys thread since very early and we almost had at least 1 return each for each purchase. No company can handle that.

I wasn't comparing the Volcano vs handhelds, I was stating that IME S&Bs overall customer service went downhill around the time they launched their portable units, as an observation. I had a warranty issue with my Volcano and was basically left in the dark. After being a loyal customer to them for years and having recommended the volcano to countless acquaintances - sold at least 20x units through my referrals, never asking them for anything in return - they stiffed me, at least that's how I see it. Pay for an expensive repair/shipping - a used device when all countries were still under prohibition, so not feasible or purchase a brand new unit.. went back to smoking for years cause I no longer wanted to support s&b and nothing on the market at that time provided what I was looking for. Picked up a pax, first portable available, and then I found this forum.. thankfully. 2013/2014, purchased my first volcano in 2006.

Ps Ghost didn't go bankrupt because of their customer service policy. It went bankrupt because no one wanted to pay that kind of dough for a unreliable and poorly designed product. Ghost was manufactured and sourced in China, not like s&b which has it's german factories - most parts still sourced from asia though is my guess. Most manufacturing deals with chinese factories have agreements and terms in place to cover defect issues and it's all on the factory, especially this day in age. Ghost ran out of money cause no one was buying their hype.

Don't play with your health and don't support companies who don't care about our community

All the Hybrid issues are known by S&B why don't they fix them asap? They're owned by the biggest cannabis company in the world who blow through billions of dollars on who knows what.. why s&b can't fix these minor issues is beyond me.

 

[vapeaveli420]

Hey guys, hope you’re all staying safe and keeping well through this crazy time! Hm I have a question it might be a stupid one though lol. I really want to buy a desktop, got my eyes on the hybrid, if I was to use this through the whip would that be on demand or session style vaping? Also how does this compare to the mighty? I am also looking into the plenty? Have all the health and safety issues been sorted?

 

[Duck]

Hey guys, hope you’re all staying safe and keeping well through this crazy time! Hm I have a question it might be a stupid one though lol. I really want to buy a desktop, got my eyes on the hybrid, if I was to use this through the whip would that be on demand or session style vaping? Also how does this compare to the mighty? I am also looking into the plenty? Have all the health and safety issues been sorted?

currently i would rather test the ditanium.

 

[Baron23]

Hey guys, hope you’re all staying safe and keeping well through this crazy time! Hm I have a question it might be a stupid one though lol. I really want to buy a desktop, got my eyes on the hybrid, if I was to use this through the whip would that be on demand or session style vaping? Also how does this compare to the mighty? I am also looking into the plenty? Have all the health and safety issues been sorted?

It is not an on-demand vape in the sense that you turn it on, push a button, and take a hit.

The Volcano needs to heat up and, although you can take the chamber off of the base unit and stop conduction heating then put it back on later for another hit, its really more of a session vape.

As for comparing a portable to a very strong desktop bag/whip vape....that's kind of like "what's better, a Honda Accord or a Volvo box truck". Just not the same type of beast, IMO. I and also own a Mighty (which is a session vape also)

As for health and safety concerns, others will disagree I believe but for me they were far over blown to start and IMO they have been resolved with the ceramic coated chamber and ring.

Its a great vape.

 

[vapeaveli420]

currently i would rather test the ditanium.

The Ditanium does look sick. I only use bud, no concentrates I’m afraid. Would you still recommend?

It is not an on-demand vape in the sense that you turn it on, push a button, and take a hit.

The Volcano needs to heat up and, although you can take the chamber off of the base unit and stop conduction heating then put it back on later for another hit, its really more of a session vape.

As for comparing a portable to a very strong desktop bag/whip vape....that's kind of like "what's better, a Honda Accord or a Volvo box truck". Just not the same type of beast, IMO. I and also own a Mighty (which is a session vape also)

As for health and safety concerns, others will disagree I believe but for me they were far over blown to start and IMO they have been resolved with the ceramic coated chamber and ring.

Its a great vape.

Aw thanks for all the information. Dude what on demand desktop would you recommend? I currently have, the mighty, Dynavap m and sticky brick JR. I want something that is gonna knock me on the floor between gaming. Something that can be session as well would be amazing. Thanks brother. Stay safe.

 

[Baron23]

Dude what on demand desktop would you recommend?

Either FlowerPot from NV or EVO from VapeXhale.

Both are full convection power houses and with both you can take a hit and then just take the heater off of the FlowerPot or pull the ELB (basket) from the EVO if you want to let it sit.

Also, with both you can put in as little as .1g and just kill it in a couple of draws....not exactly on-demand but kind of...right?

Also, look at an Enano or other log vape. These too tend to run small load size (for me, Enano is .08) and just get a couple of draws from a stem.

I do have all three.... I love all three....I probably use the EVO the most.

Hope that's helpful.

 

[vapeaveli420]

Either FlowerPot from NV or EVO from VapeXhale.

Both are full convection power houses and with both you can take a hit and then just take the heater off of the FlowerPot or pull the ELB (basket) from the EVO if you want to let it sit.

Also, with both you can put in as little as .1g and just kill it in a couple of draws....not exactly on-demand but kind of...right?

Also, look at an Enano or other log vape. These too tend to run small load size (for me, Enano is .08) and just get a couple of draws from a stem.

I do have all three.... I love all three....I probably use the EVO the most.

Hope that's helpful.

Thank you

 

[wakeandvape60]

Hello, I got an old mighty and was going to purchase an hybrid but I saw this topic with all this issues. But to conclude, is it worth it and safe to buy an hybrid today with that new fixed chamber ?

 

[LAWTHEONE]

I haven’t been able to buy or order the corrective pieces. Does anyone know how?

 

[Crafty Vaper]

I haven’t been able to buy or order the corrective pieces. Does anyone know how?

I think the new Hybrids will come with the improved parts.

 

[LAWTHEONE]

I think the new Hybrids will come with the improved parts.

Thanks. Well I need to find out how to ship this one back so they could give me a new one!

 

[Duck]

I haven’t been able to buy or order the corrective pieces. Does anyone know how?

In Germany...
https://www.storz-bickel.com/de/support/volcano/troubleshooting

replacement Parts....

SN Nr. ... 0 €

 

[LAWTHEONE]

In Germany...
https://www.storz-bickel.com/de/support/volcano/troubleshooting

replacement Parts....

SN Nr. ... 0 €

Thank you. That link wouldn’t let me ship to the United States.

 

[Duck]

this is not good...
your dealer can't order them?
Send S&B email to support and ask where you can get them exchanged in the USA.

 

[caviareview]

Hello, I got an old mighty and was going to purchase an hybrid but I saw this topic with all this issues. But to conclude, is it worth it and safe to buy an hybrid today with that new fixed chamber ?

Yeah it's still great, even better with the new parts although I wasn't unhappy before; it's always felt safe to me. The thing's like using 10 mightys at once, bit of a lighter flavour than the mighty but strongest high of anything I've tried. Really gets you on another level especially if you're used to portables.

 

[Baron23]

Hello, I got an old mighty and was going to purchase an hybrid but I saw this topic with all this issues. But to conclude, is it worth it and safe to buy an hybrid today with that new fixed chamber ?

IMO, yes...without a doubt.

Others will disagree.

You need to read recent sections of this thread (prob already did) and do some due diligence on aluminum (no, Dorothy, it really isn't as deadly as plutonium! haha) and make up your mind about that also.

I would suggest doing searches on terms like "how much aluminum does the average American consume", "how safe is aluminum cookware", "what are the recommended maximum amounts of aluminum allowed" and stuff like that.

Its no secret that I personally think that some people have a HUGE, hysterical, overreaction to just the word "aluminum" haha

So, you need to ferret out your level of comfort.

By the by, I find the ceramic coating on my AL Hybrid parts to be working perfectly with no signs of scratching or dust particles.

Thank you. That link wouldn’t let me ship to the United States.

Right here...scroll down until you see "Request a Replacement"

https://www.storz-bickel.com/en-us/support/volcano/troubleshooting

 

[justcametomind]

Hello, I got an old mighty and was going to purchase an hybrid but I saw this topic with all this issues. But to conclude, is it worth it and safe to buy an hybrid today with that new fixed chamber ?

I’d like to get one as well, but I have a digit and the improvements don’t seem to be extraordinary to me, quite the contrary. Other than that the issue with metal dust seems resolved, but I still would like to understand if SB still advices to clean the unit after every use which is a buzz killer imho.
I also noticed one of my go to European reseller lowered the price of 100€, just a few months after launch and many other shops are following the path with 70/80€ discount. Feel like if I wait a bit more I’ll get one half price? For sure if I invested 600€ at launch I’d feel a bit pissed. Aluminum dust or not.

 

[wakeandvape60]

The thing's like using 10 mightys at once, bit of a lighter flavour than the mighty but strongest high of anything I've tried. Really gets you on another level especially if you're used to portables.

Ok but maybe it's due to his wider chamber and because there's more weed in bowl, but e.g with capsules and using reducing chamber, are vapor quality and effects really better with hybrid ?

 

[Baron23]

I’d like to get one as well, but I have a digit and the improvements don’t seem to be extraordinary to me, quite the contrary. Other than that the issue with metal dust seems resolved, but I still would like to understand if SB still advices to clean the unit after every use which is a buzz killer imho.
I also noticed one of my go to European reseller lowered the price of 100€, just a few months after launch and many other shops are following the path with 70/80€ discount. Feel like if I wait a bit more I’ll get one half price? For sure if I invested 600€ at launch I’d feel a bit pissed. Aluminum dust or not.

I rather think you’re right that the Hybrid doesn’t offer enough of a diff from Digit to drive an upgrade purchase.

But in terms of cleaning, it’s same as any other Volcano, IMO.

 

[Crafty Vaper]

I rather think you’re right that the Hybrid doesn’t offer enough of a diff from Digit to drive an upgrade purchase.

But in terms of cleaning, it’s same as any other Volcano, IMO.

I owned the Cano Classic for 6 years and cleaned it maybe 10 times. I am using the Hybrid for 6 months now and cleaned it also 10 times. The upper stainless steel part builds up a lot of dirt!

 

[grogazola]

I’m running really low on isopropyl alcohol.

Any tips for cleaning your chambers without isopropyl??

 

[Vape_Or_Die420]

Hot coffee or tea with cream. You can drink it after if you want. Might sound crazy but they are acidic enough to work in these hard times. The cream absorbs left over cannabinoids like any edible.

Grain alcohol is an option i would use first though.

 

[grogazola]

Hot coffee or tea with cream. You can drink it after if you want. Might sound crazy but they are acidic enough to work in these hard times. The cream absorbs left over cannabinoids like any edible.

Grain alcohol is an option i would use first though.

Nice! Sounds creative haha!

Here’s what I did - ended up cleaning the chamber thoroughly in under ten minutes.

Put the chamber on the volcano at 420f, let it rest for a few minutes, hit the air switch without the bag, let it pump air for roughly a minute. Remove chamber from volcano, carefully disassemble the hot chamber.

While the chamber is hot and disassembled, simply wipe the insides out with a paper towel or qtip. You can use a brush but it will get resined up.

I was amazed at how the abv just flew off the chamber using zero solvents or water. Using a dry brush worked so well that all the gooey abv stuck to my brush and is now resin-y lol. I would use a paper towel next time for that reason.

If you do this, you can use virtually a few drops of isopropyl. Hope this makes sense!

Edit - to thoroughly clean the chamber, I poured very little isopropyl into a mason jar and shook the chamber pieces. I like having my chamber 100% clean so that it shines haha. Using soap and hot water would probably get it 99.9% clean!