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charliedontsurf
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So the Coil VG showed up, thanks to Randy for the great price, free shipping and the awesome extras.
A disclaimer for this piece is that my meds right now are so abysmally lousy that I can't even really catch a buzz with my tolerance. I'm literally going to go on a T-break and gift the rest of these -shit- meds away, because they're just useless to someone like me. Other people seem happy, so let them have it. So I'm not judging this test on the buzz I grab, but rather on the amount of visible vapor produced, and the evenness of the ABV afterwards.
My initial impressions are pretty positive. The whole unit is VERY stealth in the sense that you would never, ever know it were a piece of paraphernalia. Like, really. It looks like something that belongs in someone's work van or took chest. The bendiness is not a huge issue, I can't imagine it bending enough just casually in someone's pocket that herbal material would spill out. The filter portion CAN be simply pulled off the mouthpiece portion, just jumping its threads, which was a little surprising but probably not an issue.
The whole shebang is odd in that it's not air-tight - if you cap the end with your palm and inhale, you can still draw air in. It's all very loosey goosy in its construction in a way, and you'd think immediately that this quality would fuck with proper vapor production. But vapor clouds are quite easy to produce, they're large enough to quite large, the bowl seems to vaporize quite quite evenly, and I like the whole thing way more than I did my aluminum bat, just based on this small session with horrible meds. It's a cool little unit. The end will get hot, but the mouthpiece will stay quite, quite cool at all times. 3/4 of the pipe really will, just the very end gets hot with normal usage. Speaking of the mouthpiece, it has a piece of bare coil ending right where your lips hit it. While I haven't cut my lip or even scratched it, I do think it should be sanded down. It would really be next to impossible to injure yourself with it, but it just looks and feels a little unfinished.
Those interested in using a jet lighter with it should think very hard. Another member mentioned this and they deserve credit, but using a jet lighter with this basically means pointing the jet flame directly at the filter, which means you're pretty much aiming it at your FACE. You can't simply fire the jet flame across the side or "bow" of the bowl and inhale it in, it won't work in my limited experience. Edit: I just tried it with great care and alarm and it worked quite well and I didn't feel like I was jeopardizing my beautiful features tooo much.
For 34 dollars, are you kidding me? This is a bitching little vaporizer, and would be a great introduction to vaping for the stonier on a budget. I can't wait to try it out with meds that are worth my goddamn time. Right now, given its super low budget price point, high durability and a good American company being behind it, I feel I can give this little, quirky portable an 8 - again, taking into consideration its price. Not a bad little vape, and I look forward to using it with better meds.
Edit: the whole thing could be used with a 14mm Gong or a 18.8mm Gong with the simple addition of an O-ring, too. Jet lighter usage would be practical in this application. Also just noticed the manual says "lifetime warranty."
A disclaimer for this piece is that my meds right now are so abysmally lousy that I can't even really catch a buzz with my tolerance. I'm literally going to go on a T-break and gift the rest of these -shit- meds away, because they're just useless to someone like me. Other people seem happy, so let them have it. So I'm not judging this test on the buzz I grab, but rather on the amount of visible vapor produced, and the evenness of the ABV afterwards.
My initial impressions are pretty positive. The whole unit is VERY stealth in the sense that you would never, ever know it were a piece of paraphernalia. Like, really. It looks like something that belongs in someone's work van or took chest. The bendiness is not a huge issue, I can't imagine it bending enough just casually in someone's pocket that herbal material would spill out. The filter portion CAN be simply pulled off the mouthpiece portion, just jumping its threads, which was a little surprising but probably not an issue.
The whole shebang is odd in that it's not air-tight - if you cap the end with your palm and inhale, you can still draw air in. It's all very loosey goosy in its construction in a way, and you'd think immediately that this quality would fuck with proper vapor production. But vapor clouds are quite easy to produce, they're large enough to quite large, the bowl seems to vaporize quite quite evenly, and I like the whole thing way more than I did my aluminum bat, just based on this small session with horrible meds. It's a cool little unit. The end will get hot, but the mouthpiece will stay quite, quite cool at all times. 3/4 of the pipe really will, just the very end gets hot with normal usage. Speaking of the mouthpiece, it has a piece of bare coil ending right where your lips hit it. While I haven't cut my lip or even scratched it, I do think it should be sanded down. It would really be next to impossible to injure yourself with it, but it just looks and feels a little unfinished.
Those interested in using a jet lighter with it should think very hard. Another member mentioned this and they deserve credit, but using a jet lighter with this basically means pointing the jet flame directly at the filter, which means you're pretty much aiming it at your FACE. You can't simply fire the jet flame across the side or "bow" of the bowl and inhale it in, it won't work in my limited experience. Edit: I just tried it with great care and alarm and it worked quite well and I didn't feel like I was jeopardizing my beautiful features tooo much.
For 34 dollars, are you kidding me? This is a bitching little vaporizer, and would be a great introduction to vaping for the stonier on a budget. I can't wait to try it out with meds that are worth my goddamn time. Right now, given its super low budget price point, high durability and a good American company being behind it, I feel I can give this little, quirky portable an 8 - again, taking into consideration its price. Not a bad little vape, and I look forward to using it with better meds.
Edit: the whole thing could be used with a 14mm Gong or a 18.8mm Gong with the simple addition of an O-ring, too. Jet lighter usage would be practical in this application. Also just noticed the manual says "lifetime warranty."
Rin101
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Thanks for that great review, Charlie. I agree with everything you said, and I would like you to note that you should be able to untwist the inside coil of the mouthpiece (the one that's sticking out) back up into the pipe to hide it from view. If you do that, you will first have to untwist the coil that holds the filter to give the bowl and mouthpiece room to move. Let me know how that works out..I don't have one with me now, but my friend let me disassemble his to find out how all the parts went together.
Edit: nevermind, I just realized that you weren't talking about the inside coil, but you were talking about the bare end of the outer coil of the mouthpiece! Enjoy
Edit: nevermind, I just realized that you weren't talking about the inside coil, but you were talking about the bare end of the outer coil of the mouthpiece! Enjoy
I got my VG Coil today and have been testing it out. It reminds of a slinky. 
It took a few tries to get the draw speed down. If you try to draw too slow, the flame wont enter the coil at all and no vapor will be produced. But with a regular speed draw, it seems to work quite nicely. After fucking with it for just a few minutes, I had it down and was getting decent clouds very easily.
I think this will make a good travel vape for me for a few reasons. First, I can just soak it in ISO to remove any remnants (this is a big plus). Second, like CDS said, no one will know what the hell this thing is, so I wouldn't worry about it in a checked bag. Third, it's small enough to use anywhere and obviously requires no electricity or batteries. Finally, even if I lost it or it gets confiscated, I'm only out $34, so no big deal.
Randy at PIU even threw in a 2 pc grinder to boot!
Overall I think this little bugger is a good value, and it definitely works good as I'm pretty vaked right now.
It took a few tries to get the draw speed down. If you try to draw too slow, the flame wont enter the coil at all and no vapor will be produced. But with a regular speed draw, it seems to work quite nicely. After fucking with it for just a few minutes, I had it down and was getting decent clouds very easily.
I think this will make a good travel vape for me for a few reasons. First, I can just soak it in ISO to remove any remnants (this is a big plus). Second, like CDS said, no one will know what the hell this thing is, so I wouldn't worry about it in a checked bag. Third, it's small enough to use anywhere and obviously requires no electricity or batteries. Finally, even if I lost it or it gets confiscated, I'm only out $34, so no big deal.
Randy at PIU even threw in a 2 pc grinder to boot!
Overall I think this little bugger is a good value, and it definitely works good as I'm pretty vaked right now.
charliedontsurf
Medical
VG coil + GonG joint + jet lighter is a very capable vaporizer with a bit of a learning curve to overcome. Not bad for a 34 dollar vape.
Chucku, I found my Aluminum bat got very hot and I never liked it. Only the filter portion (approx 40% of overall length when assembled) gets hot enough to be uncomfortable. The mouthpiece will seemingly always stay comfortably cool from my experience.
Chucku, I found my Aluminum bat got very hot and I never liked it. Only the filter portion (approx 40% of overall length when assembled) gets hot enough to be uncomfortable. The mouthpiece will seemingly always stay comfortably cool from my experience.
Vapor Genie? I love the Vapor Genie.
I bought a purple Vapor Genie for my girl. It's really light, easy to use and gets the job done.
We also had a joint about an hour afterwards- what a difference. The Vapor Genie is so smooth, vapor tastes great and you won't reek for an hour afterwards. Such a healthy alternative.
I'm dying to try the Vapor Bat...
We also had a joint about an hour afterwards- what a difference. The Vapor Genie is so smooth, vapor tastes great and you won't reek for an hour afterwards. Such a healthy alternative.
I'm dying to try the Vapor Bat...
I got my bat from the Sandbox near Redondo, you may want to check them out and see if they have the bad. I have the first gen model and despite it getting a bit hot it works well. Plus I have hooked the top up to a water pipe and its even smoother with water filtering the material.
Gave my VG a go for the first time last night/this morning. I had never vaped before so wasn't sure what to expect, but I got the hang of it soon enough (after maybe half a dozen tries) and am pretty happy with it so far!
I knew the high would be different from smoking but I didn't anticipate it to be this massive a difference. I get extremely anxious and somewhat paranoid immediately after smoking weed, the feeling always subsides after 15-30 minutes and then I feel great after that (hence still smoking despite the fucked up negative feeling I get shortly after...), but I was surprised that I got literally no anxiety/paranoia/unwanted thoughts/general confusion etc. after vaping. Maybe it's just that I didn't consume much, maybe if I vaped a good amount I would still get those negative effects, but I felt 'high' enough without even a hint of anxiety or anything. If I could describe it, it was a mellow clearheaded high, a bit like how you might feel several hours after getting really stoned (smoking), where it's not that intense and you can function fully but you feel totally chilled and content. I felt like I could have done anything I'd normally do (sober), whereas after smoking there's no way I would even consider leaving the house.. I really want to look into this alot more as it seems too good to be true that I could avoid all the negative side effects just by changing the method of consumption.
I still did miss some of the effects of the type of high that I'm used to, stuff like listening to music seems to be a bit more enjoyable after a typical smoking high, and such a clearheaded high can get a bit dull after the first 45-60 minutes. I think I will still smoke occasionally but am going to vape most of the time since I seem to avoid all the unwanted side effects that smoking leads to for me.
Only thing I'm a little worried about is getting into the habit of vaping too often. I smoke barely ever nowadays, gotten high maybe 5 times in the last 3 months, I think the usual negative side effects put me off smoking more often, but if it wasn't for those huge drawbacks to getting stoned I'd probably do it alot more... but getting high on a regular basis isn't rtaelly an option for me anymore. Will probably be fine though, but I'll be cautious not to get into the habit of vaping every day or whatever.
Oh yeah and I think I must have only been vaping pretty lightly as the weed just looked like a darker shade of green rather than brown, though it felt kinda like there wasn't much left to be vaporized after a couple of pretty big hits in each bowl (I had one bowl then another 2-3 hours later) so I'll just keep all that shit for firecrackers later...
Would definitely recommend the VG for people interested in giving vaporizing a try!
I knew the high would be different from smoking but I didn't anticipate it to be this massive a difference. I get extremely anxious and somewhat paranoid immediately after smoking weed, the feeling always subsides after 15-30 minutes and then I feel great after that (hence still smoking despite the fucked up negative feeling I get shortly after...), but I was surprised that I got literally no anxiety/paranoia/unwanted thoughts/general confusion etc. after vaping. Maybe it's just that I didn't consume much, maybe if I vaped a good amount I would still get those negative effects, but I felt 'high' enough without even a hint of anxiety or anything. If I could describe it, it was a mellow clearheaded high, a bit like how you might feel several hours after getting really stoned (smoking), where it's not that intense and you can function fully but you feel totally chilled and content. I felt like I could have done anything I'd normally do (sober), whereas after smoking there's no way I would even consider leaving the house.. I really want to look into this alot more as it seems too good to be true that I could avoid all the negative side effects just by changing the method of consumption.
I still did miss some of the effects of the type of high that I'm used to, stuff like listening to music seems to be a bit more enjoyable after a typical smoking high, and such a clearheaded high can get a bit dull after the first 45-60 minutes. I think I will still smoke occasionally but am going to vape most of the time since I seem to avoid all the unwanted side effects that smoking leads to for me.
Only thing I'm a little worried about is getting into the habit of vaping too often. I smoke barely ever nowadays, gotten high maybe 5 times in the last 3 months, I think the usual negative side effects put me off smoking more often, but if it wasn't for those huge drawbacks to getting stoned I'd probably do it alot more... but getting high on a regular basis isn't rtaelly an option for me anymore. Will probably be fine though, but I'll be cautious not to get into the habit of vaping every day or whatever.
Oh yeah and I think I must have only been vaping pretty lightly as the weed just looked like a darker shade of green rather than brown, though it felt kinda like there wasn't much left to be vaporized after a couple of pretty big hits in each bowl (I had one bowl then another 2-3 hours later) so I'll just keep all that shit for firecrackers later...
Would definitely recommend the VG for people interested in giving vaporizing a try!
djonkoman
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about vaping everyday... I was also a weekly smoker before vaping, maybe twice a week but not more, when I started vaping that became everyday within a few weeks, for me the negative effect that kept me from smoking everyday was the tiredness, I culdn't watch movies stoned because I would fall asleep halfway trough
AGBeer
Lost in Thought
Well, I am going to join the ranks of coil VG owners as I just ordered a couple from the site. Ive owned plenty of regular VGs in the past, but this coil one is rather intriguing. I plan to give one to my buddy to see how he likes it. The original VG I gave him didnt do it... Im hoping this one does.
paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
VaporGenie has restocked their handcarved models and added a new Wavy Teak model.
PhishCactus
Lvl. 420 Vaporist
My brother called me today and informed me that he left me a surprise before he wen't to college, I was gone the week he left, I looked around my bookshelf and found it! A vaporgenie, I was very excited but
I knew that it had not been cared for well, I looked on the site and I think its an older model where you cant remove the filter. I am tempted to soak the WHOLE thing in alcohol and then just moisturize the wood, as I think that might prevent any negative effects of the alcohol on the wood.
I will post a picture, and then hopefully someone here can tell me what model it is, and what I should do to care for it, im very anxious to use it and have always wanted a lighter powered vape to add to my collection.
The filter doesn't look too soot clogged and I can breath through it easily, I don't want to perform the vacuum cleaner method as shown on the VG website unless necessary, but I taste what I believe to be very close to combustion so I wanna get this baby back on track. Any suggestions would be great.
Thanks!
Phishcactus
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I knew that it had not been cared for well, I looked on the site and I think its an older model where you cant remove the filter. I am tempted to soak the WHOLE thing in alcohol and then just moisturize the wood, as I think that might prevent any negative effects of the alcohol on the wood.
I will post a picture, and then hopefully someone here can tell me what model it is, and what I should do to care for it, im very anxious to use it and have always wanted a lighter powered vape to add to my collection.
The filter doesn't look too soot clogged and I can breath through it easily, I don't want to perform the vacuum cleaner method as shown on the VG website unless necessary, but I taste what I believe to be very close to combustion so I wanna get this baby back on track. Any suggestions would be great.
Thanks!
Phishcactus
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paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
Walnut Smooth.
PhishCactus
Lvl. 420 Vaporist
Update: I cleaned the internals with rubbing alcohol, i'm not too worried about damaging the wood, Ill probably bee's wax the outside soon, I basically ISO'ed everything, and tried to minimize contact with the wood parts and maximize contact with the metal parts, I kept doing this till the liquid that came out was mostly clear. My brother told me him and his friends smoked "opium" through this before and I don't want any of the residue, especially because my years of erowid reading have lead me to learn that almost all opium in america is fake, so who knows what they actually put in this. Im pretty cautious but I think a few more alcohol washes and I will be safe, I also used the vacuum cleaner method which involves putting the pipe to the mouth of the vacuum tube and letting it suck the flame through the lighter through at high speeds.
You all probably don't care about any of that, but if anyone has any further suggestions or can tell me what I can treat the wood with that I can find around my house, olive oil? Probably not the right kind of oil just wondering.
thanks for reading if you did!
edit: I also polished the wood with a mixture of 1/4th cup olive oil, i used the highest quality one i could find in my kitchen, and a teaspoon of lemon juice, I got the recipe from a quick google search. It hasn't dried completely, but it appears as if this simple, non-toxic mixture really helped restore the faded, dry looking wood of the pipe.
You all probably don't care about any of that, but if anyone has any further suggestions or can tell me what I can treat the wood with that I can find around my house, olive oil? Probably not the right kind of oil just wondering.
thanks for reading if you did!
edit: I also polished the wood with a mixture of 1/4th cup olive oil, i used the highest quality one i could find in my kitchen, and a teaspoon of lemon juice, I got the recipe from a quick google search. It hasn't dried completely, but it appears as if this simple, non-toxic mixture really helped restore the faded, dry looking wood of the pipe.
I have been treating my wood with pure beeswax lately. I heat up the entire piece of wood to greater than 150F with a heat gun (a hair dryer may work too) and then rub it with the beeswax. Since the wood is now hotter than the melting point of beeswax, it soaks right into the dry wood. Continue to rub in the beeswax until the wood stops drawing it in. Be careful not to get the wood too hot if you use a heat gun. All that will be necessary to get a shine on the wood after that is a quick buff with a clean cloth as the wood is now saturated with beeswax. You will bring out a lot more color in the wood when the beeswax penetrates the fibers. It also protects the wood very well.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Rin101
Well-Known Member
PhishCactus, that's an awesome present that he left you! Like Payton said, it looks like a Smooth Handcarved Walnut VG (http://www.vaporgenie.com/Handcarved.html#). I have never used alcohol to clean my wooden pipe, so I can't help you in that regard. TV, that sounds like a cool way to apply wax to your pipe, I might have to try that sometime!
Used my VG again yesterday and it was even better! I feel like I truly got the hang of the technique towards the end of the bowl yesterday.
One thing that was weird, I couldn't stop trembling and felt really cold for about 15-20 mins after vaping, and I didn't even really feel high at the time. I was wondering if it could have anything to do with the butane in my lighter (haven't got around to getting a different lighter yet) as I looked up the effects of butane inhalation and saw stuff like frostbite etc.. anyway, probably not the place for that type of query so not expecting a reply but it was a little bit worrying at the time.
After that passed though I was high as fuck for a good 4-5 hours off the one bowl before I went to sleep for 12 hours. I rarely get the sort of euphoric high from smoking that I have from vaping so far, and it's so refreshing to be able to function properly despite being really high.
Thanks again to everyone who helped with advice and tips here, much appreciated!
One thing that was weird, I couldn't stop trembling and felt really cold for about 15-20 mins after vaping, and I didn't even really feel high at the time. I was wondering if it could have anything to do with the butane in my lighter (haven't got around to getting a different lighter yet) as I looked up the effects of butane inhalation and saw stuff like frostbite etc.. anyway, probably not the place for that type of query so not expecting a reply but it was a little bit worrying at the time.
After that passed though I was high as fuck for a good 4-5 hours off the one bowl before I went to sleep for 12 hours. I rarely get the sort of euphoric high from smoking that I have from vaping so far, and it's so refreshing to be able to function properly despite being really high.
Thanks again to everyone who helped with advice and tips here, much appreciated!
Rin101
Well-Known Member
Bipola, I usually feel cold after vaporizing too (even after the first 10-15 mins) so I've learned to have a jacket handy all the time. I'm not totally sure why this is, but it may have something to do with a change in blood pressure?
Yeah, some people are dumb and will inhale compressed gas straight from the can lol..one time when I was in high school these two guys were playing with a can of compressed air and one guy sprayed his arm too long and was sent to the hospital with frostbite
djonkoman said:frostbite is probably only because it comes ut of the can freezing cold
Yeah, some people are dumb and will inhale compressed gas straight from the can lol..one time when I was in high school these two guys were playing with a can of compressed air and one guy sprayed his arm too long and was sent to the hospital with frostbite