VaporGenie

[Hammock Guru]

I love mine.

 

[stickstones]

notsure...how much of this thread have you read? It's full of people praising this unit.

 

[chucku]

Notsureaboutvapes- Here's the deal, it took me about a week and a half to master this thing. #1- It's OK to touch the flame to the metal insert, just not the grey inner "filter". The soot just wipes off. #2- You'll know if you touch the lighter to the ceramic filter because it will have a dark black spot on it, no worries, this will go away once you start using it correctly. #3- If you think you burnt the weed, unscrew the bowl, if it looks chocolate brown you didn't, if black you did. #4 I usually pull a dry hit at first for about 4 seconds just to heat the ceramic up, then catch your breath. Now hold the flame as you draw so it goes in the bowl about an 8th or 1/4 " (about 1/2" away from filter) do a long slow draw while slightly moving flame around bowl, in about 6-7 sec you'll start tasting the vapor. Take the flame away but draw in another quick 1-2 sec. and you should have some nice vapor. Unscrew bowl, stir, hit again while it's still warm. This time watch it with the lighter, dip no more than 1/8" in the bowl or you could burn the weed. Once it's all kinda brown, empty it in a container for making brownies with later (still has alot of CBD's). #5 Catch your breath and drink some water. Give you lungs a rest. You shouldn't have to hit it but every 2-3 hours if you have some good nugs. I gave myself bronchitis hitting this thing to often and being out of breath, between tokes. Good Luck. BTW don't judge all vaporizing on this thing, more expensive vapes (volcano, iolite, etc.) would make you fall in love with vaping.

Thanks man.

Damn though, you got bronchitis using the Vapor Genie?! I thought vaporizing was supposed to PREVENT that kind of thing??

I simply can't afford a better vaporizer right now, when I went to the store they had a volcano for $660....SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY!! I had no freaking idea they could cost that much but there's no way I can EVER pay that kind of cash for a vaporizer.

I mean, MAYBE $300 MAX...More like $250 on a really good day.

I do have a VAPIR....but I only used it once and didn't like it but I'll try it again sometime most likely because I probably used it wrong.

Question:

IS THE VAPOR GENIE HIGHLY REGARDED AROUND HERE??

BECAUSE YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT'S NOT A GREAT VAPORIZER WITH YOUR LAST COMMENT.

Of course I know it isn't top of the line, but I DON'T want to be getting bronchitis.

IF IT SAVES MY LUNGS YET AT THE SAME TIME GETS ME REALLY HIGH WITHOUT COUGING A LOT LIKE SMOKING DOES....THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT.


I see the VG in a lot of people's sigs...so I would imagine most on here think it's a decent unit.


WHAT DO YOU GUYS SAY....DO MOST OF YOU THINK THE VAPOR GENIE IS A DECENT VAPORIZER????

sundaddy,

When I first got my vg I fired it up with a conventional piezo butane lighter. No matter the technique I was tasting butane. I tried using one of my torch lighters and the difference was immediate. The taste improved 100%, heat up is much quicker - you are essentially getting vapor within a couple of seconds of applying the torch also a torch lighter will never deposit soot therefore it will never clog.

notsureaboutvapes,

Check out some of the other threads about the v-tower and the extreme. The v-tower is an excellent whip based vape and can be had for less than $200.00. The extreme is the v-tower with the ability to fill balloons and comes with a remote. The extreme is available for less than $300.00 (I got mine for $250.00 off of ebay). Do yourself a favor and replace your vapir. Once you do you will realize what charlatans the vapir organization are. It is very possible to get a superior vape without getting near volcano territory, just do your homework. BTW the vg is one of if not the best vapes for on the go. My only quibble is the bowl capacity is rather small.

 

[UrDoinItWrong]

The VG was my first vape, and I used it exclusively for a month or so with NO ill effects, using it 5-10 times a day. It is very simple to use as directed with a normal piezo, and also very simple to NOT fuck up this way. I tried using a torch lighter at one point, and found it did not work well at all for me. True, it DOES fire up quicker and does burn SLIGHTLY cleaner, but you have just increased your potential to accidentally burn your herb and practically ruin your VG by like 500%. No matter how careful and precise I was, I still managed to accidentally burn herb a few times with the torch, which leaves the pipe with a foul combustion odor for a quite some time. The high temp flame also managed to "stain" my stainless steel top, which Dan from VG says will lose it's finish at the temps the torch produces. So, I personally don't recommend torch lighters.

Def trash the Vapir.

 

[chucku]

I don't know about you, but am I the only one who tastes butane when using a conventional flame lighter? To me it is strong enuf to be unacceptable. I agree to use a torch requires rigorous discipline but is well worth it once mastered.

 

[max]

am I the only one who tastes butane when using a conventional flame lighter?

You taste carbon soot, not butane, unless you're sucking on the Genie and your flame goes out. The hottest part of a lighter flame is the blue flame right above the exit nozzle. Butane can't escape that flame without being broken down into its components of hydrogen and carbon. The hydrogen is burned quickly and completely. The carbon is more difficult to thoroughly burn and results in soot with a conventional lighter. A torch lighter is hot enough to completely burn the carbon as well as the hydrogen.

 

[HappyFunTime]

For my first post here is a mini photo review of the Classic Vapor Genie.

I have been combusting for 13 years and have quite a collection of gear. Here is what I am replacing:

Packed up:

And here is the new, stank free, carrying case for the genie (it is the $12 one from their website):

Unpacked; Vapor Genie, Visine, Vector lighter (from site) and 3 herb film cans (2 of fresh ground herb and one of vapped herb).

A freshly prepped magical genie:

Review:

Ordering
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I placed my order direct from the manufacturer on a Tuesday night, made a quick lighter color change on Wednesday and got the package on Friday. Very good customer service.

I bought the Classic Vapor Genie in walnut, the small aluminum grinder, the Vector lighter and the Pouch for about $110 which I think is a great deal. A grinder is key.


The Experience
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This is single most amazing herb consuming device I have ever encountered.

First a few words on my history of vapping. I made a few homemade vaporizers in college about 13 years ago. Basically just a portable coffee pot heather built into a wooden box with a goldfish tank on top, a plastic whip and dimmer for temp control. The thing was hard to use and would result in combustion most of the time. I also never really liked the high that much as I was use to the huge body high from smoking swag at the time. A few years later I got a Cloud 9 Vaporizer which worked ok but in the end I preferred smoking at the time and gave it away.

Now having smoked for 13 years I am so glad I discovered a portable, effective, and simple vaporizer enabling a healthier way to consume my favorite herbs. I wish I would have gotten one in 2004 when they came out! This thing delivers the cleanest, tastiest highs. I vow now, after one full day of use to never go back to burning and inhaling smoke.

Having read this entire thread over 3 days while waiting on the mail I was able to vap a great first bowl. I cannot say how pleased I am with its ease of use. On my third bowl I was able to pull 2 quick deep vaps while driving with my knees. I just cup the entire bowl in my hand and it looks like I am lighting a cigarette (all be it for 10-15 seconds but I was able to get a hit off in time to not draw attention.

My general technique is about 5 seconds of slow toking and then once I feel the air warm up and sweeten I pull hard and raise the lighter slightly while gently rotating it around the rim with the flame just dipping down in the very top of the bowl.

If I use my blower (just a replacement gas mask filter) there is zero smell at all since no vapor leaves the pipe during or after using it. If not using a blower the air will smell my your herb of choice but no where near smoke. I can vap almost anytime with this baby as you can pack a bowl and then store the pipe away to be pulled out and hit and replaced in under a minute.

The tastes are so amazing and you don't smell like an ashtray for the whole night. I could not be happier and I am talking my 4 close buddies into getting them to so I never have to 'smoke' again

I have now banished all my old smoking gear to the attic except for one hitter just in case a guest really would prefer to burn. One nice thing is that the pipe and pouch do not reek like weed as my hold pouch for my pipes did. The difference it amazing.

I give this device a 10/10 hands down. I think I am going to have to get the glass Genie now! It is also amazing how efficient this little gem is. Each bowl is about 1/2 of what I would pack in my bong before for 2 bong rips. Now I get about 4 deep vapor rips form half as much green and I am amazed at how clean the high is. WIth my bong after a session I would be much more likely to veg on the couch but now I am racing to get stuff done and engaging people more.


Mods
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I am trying to mod my 12 inch Zong for use with the VG's toper. Since all the work is done by the topper and it screws into a standard bowl I built a metal stem for it at the local headshop. I also placed a cut metal paper clip in the base of the bowl for the screen to sit on top of just as is done in the Vapor Genie. I am still getting the technique down but I did get some nice vaps off it already using no water for better airlfow control. Watching the vapor rise in the tube is nice.

The stem gets way to hot right now though. I need to get a handle on there somehow but the headshop was of no help. I also think I might try a jet lighter on it as well since the airflow is much higher then the pipe which makes it hard to hit the right temp with a standard flame lighter.

I also like to toke on vacation sometimes so I also thought about how to take my vaporizer in a checked suitcase. I came up with a $8 cheapo metal pipe that I can just screw the topper on. Since the topper does not touch the herb I can check it and since the pipe is still clean I can check it too. Once the vacation is over the pipe gets tossed and the topper gets wiped down and then checked back home

Conclusion
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If you consume herb you need one of these; no question about it. Overall I am very pleased with all the items I ordered from Vapor Genie. The pouch is super nice with a slick pocket for my lighter and Visine. And the Vector light is perfect for lighting the bowl without burning your fingers. For $100 you too and give up on smoking herb and start inhaling it!


Pros:
Portable
Inexpensive
Well made
Gives great vapor rips
Best solo device out there
Efficient
Can be loaded and then pocketed for later use

Cons:
Small bowl
Learning curve with guests

 

[chucku]

am I the only one who tastes butane when using a conventional flame lighter?

You taste carbon soot, not butane, unless you're sucking on the Genie and your flame goes out. The hottest part of a lighter flame is the blue flame right above the exit nozzle. Butane can't escape that flame without being broken down into its components of hydrogen and carbon. The hydrogen is burned quickly and completely. The carbon is more difficult to thoroughly burn and results in soot with a conventional lighter. A torch lighter is hot enough to completely burn the carbon as well as the hydrogen.

That is not soot my palate is detecting. I will assume it is common knowledge butane is tasteless and odorless, olafactory agents are added to butane so its unburned presence can be detected. The yellow flame of a conventional flame lighter is evidence of incomplete combustion. Whenever I attempted to fire up my vg with a conventional flame lighter I get the very disagreeable taste of what unburnt butane smells like. This does not occur when using a torch lighter.

 

[max]

Sorry chucku, but I have to disagree that butane can escape a flame. And as I said, a higher temp torch lighter burns all the carbon, as well as the hydrogen. You can use a normal lighter to deposit soot on a surface and then use a torch to remove the soot.

 

[HappyFunTime]

Sorry chucku, but I have to disagree that butane can escape a flame. And as I said, a higher temp torch lighter burns all the carbon, as well as the hydrogen. You can use a normal lighter to deposit soot on a surface and then use a torch to remove the soot.

This.

 

[muttnik]

Hi!
I'm new on this forum and, first I want to say thank you for every good information I took from here.
And I want to ask you VG specialists: Is it possible to use a Classic Top on an Handcarved Bottom?
Does it work ???
If you tried that, I'm curious ...
Thanks.

 

[sundaddy]

I don't know for sure but I'd bet my grinder that all the screw on parts are interchangable.

 

[Jikaboom123]

It is possible, but I don't know why you would want to.

 

[muttnik]

Ok.
Thanks guys!

I just thought that the best looking possible (for me) for those pipes is this solution.
I don't really like the Classic bottom, and the handcarved top... And I think Classic Top on Handcarved bottom would be great !
And I think with this solution it really could look like any tobacco pipe, a bit more "low profile".
Just my point of view...
I thought that when I saw a picture looking like that on the VG website (on the pouches page),But maybe this is another old design ...?
...anyway, thanks for the answer !

Do you think it could affect the size of the bowl ?

(I asked VaporGenie about that, but I'm still waiting for the answer, I don't think they liked the idea...:/)

 

[Skunkypete]

Ok.
Thanks guys!

I just thought that the best looking possible (for me) for those pipes is this solution.
I don't really like the Classic bottom, and the handcarved top... And I think Classic Top on Handcarved bottom would be great !
And I think with this solution it really could look like any tobacco pipe, a bit more "low profile".
Just my point of view...
I thought that when I saw a picture looking like that on the VG website (on the pouches page),But maybe this is another old design ...?
...anyway, thanks for the answer !

Do you think it could affect the size of the bowl ?

(I asked VaporGenie about that, but I'm still waiting for the answer, I don't think they liked the idea...:/)

There used to be an "Exotic" model that is kind of what you describe. Classic top on a slim no flare bottom. Dunno why they go rid of it. It worked well. I did see them back for a couple weeks ago as their economic downturn special (a steal at 45$us) but that didn't last long.

 

[stickstones]

I'm not sure the wood from the top would match the wood from the hand carved.

 

[Acolyte of Zinglon]

it might if he got the maple

 

[HappyFunTime]

Ok.
Thanks guys!

I just thought that the best looking possible (for me) for those pipes is this solution.
I don't really like the Classic bottom, and the handcarved top... And I think Classic Top on Handcarved bottom would be great !
And I think with this solution it really could look like any tobacco pipe, a bit more "low profile".
Just my point of view...
I thought that when I saw a picture looking like that on the VG website (on the pouches page),But maybe this is another old design ...?
...anyway, thanks for the answer !

Do you think it could affect the size of the bowl ?

(I asked VaporGenie about that, but I'm still waiting for the answer, I don't think they liked the idea...:/)

It would work fine. The only basic difference between the handcarved vapor genie and the classic is that the handcarved has the bowl inset in the wood, but it is the same bowl.

As to building this piece take notice that they sell just the pipes and just the tops as well (although to order just the top you have to have a previous order number but it appears that you can pick any style once you get approval).

Best bet is to buy the classic walnut vaporgenie ($55) and the just the bottom section of a walnut handcarved ($30). Then you can just swap the top.

As a bonus if you had a big group of folks you could use both bottoms abd once and just pass the top

 

[muttnik]

thanks for your answers !
You're right ; the one I saw was an exotic... it looks better for me.
And Thanks for the information about the bowl. My idea about the differences with wood was to order for a bare naked VG and wax the top. to have something like the handcarved bottom... does it make sense for you?
I'm waiting for the reply from VG about that deal, but it seems that I'll have to order one VG and one bottom ... :/
But, I have an Uncle who is a Bong addict (even if his lungs are fucked up...) and I hope changing his mind about combustion (you know the old men...), maybe he would be happy with an hancarved top on his bong ... maybe I will order for both...?
I have to think about all that.
Anyway, thanks all of you!

 

[HappyFunTime]

Having used the Classic Genie now for a week since my review I tried removing the mouth piece to great effect. It is shorter for easier pocketing but more importanatly it allows for greater air flow for pulling faster hits. You do need to watch the temp with the shorter length though.

My glass genie should come tomorrow

 

[muttnik]

Hi VG users !
they answered me today.Of course, You were right on each point...
I'll order today
edit:
it's shipped, I'll post some pics to show how it is...

 

[SingleIssuePoster]

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[Acolyte of Zinglon]

dont the butane heat soldering irons create a lot of carbon monoxide?
ive tried using a hakko 456 with the vaporgenie, it works somewhat but i still prefer a lighter, its much easier to control
i never notice any flavor from the flame unless it touches something

 

[jawsh]

So I' ve had my walnut VG for about two weeks now.

All I have to say is I LOVE this thing. It is so cool and practical. IMO a great portable vape. Also, for those of you who like to smoke herb but don't for health reasons, I really think this is the closest thing you can come to a smoke-like experience while vaping.

There is a bit of a learning curve but it is not too difficult. You just got to stick with it and keep trying. I've found I barely let the tip of the flame go into the bowl... just barely. Never let the flame touch the ceramic filter. I get huuuge vapor clouds off this thing its GREAT. Highly recommended for those who will put in a little effort to learn how to use it properly.

 

[Rmpl Stltskn]

I'm no longer using my VG.
It was good for a single hit, but when using it for tobacco I would sometimes have a few bowls in a row and always get a headache. No headache with other methods, so I'm pretty certain it's from the butane combustion products. I used a torch lighter, so it's producing mainly CO2 and CO with little if any unburned butane, but that, or whatever else is in it, consistently gave me headaches. Given that happens after several hits I'm no longer comfortable using the VG at all.
The Iolite and the VapMan are good alternatives for portability.