jbm
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This is different from someone who’s never used a VM before. Was anyone asked who wasn’t on FC? You know, like Vaporents, maybe…
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Gourmet
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I totally agree, in my opinion the new Vapman is for those who like to have a larger pan, built-in temperature & airflow control and like to use the vaporizer mobile and outdoors. Fortunately, it is still not forbidden to use it on the sofa.
As before, it is made of largely food-safe materials, easy to repair, durable and a small masterpiece of design with surprisingly efficient and economical function.
There will always be people who prefer a different product and that's fine. The existing Vapman users are probably not the main target group, which means that it is very clever marketing to open up to new customer groups and what better way to do this than with innovation!
First rule: Don't talk about the price-club!
The test group only received very rough information about the price (because of the voluntary cost sharing).
Michael and David will announce the exact prices in due course.
(As every experienced businessman and responsible sales person knows, prices for new products are often not so easy to calculate as there are many variables. That's why you don't want to disappoint customers in advance with false or inaccurate information.)
Why is this topic of testers so ultimately exciting for you?
What is the motivation behind needing to know everything in such detail?
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jbm
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I’m curious and trying to determine whether this device is right for my needs. Part of that is critically assessing the information being presented here. Why are you irritated by being asked?
Radwin Bodnic
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I think the title under your name clearly shows were the irritation really is.
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Honestly I wasn't the target either. I have my torching technique down since a decade and I'm totally satisfied with my Swiss units. I don't even have an Italian vapman, let alone a 2.0
Yet I know I will buy a retail unit on December 1st. Partly to support Michael and David because I'm glad they made me a part of this adventure and also because now I'm spoiled. If I never had this prototype I wouldn't have been interested in this iteration. The device is that good.
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Dr. G
Vapman Collector*Vapman Beta Tester
I totally respect what you are saying...but, please as a Vapman user that you are...as I am of the OG's,,,trying the new model is a delight. It does stand up to the OG's in many ways...PLUS...you have the advantage of a bigger bowl if you need. You do not have to fill it up...and also, the CLICKS are truly a great thing for the outdoors. Please give it a shot. I think truly you will be so very pleasantly surprised. I am. I love it.
farf
Smells like popcorn
It's not irritating but your overall tone and the fact that you changed your profile tag to what's obviously a passive aggressive remark towards people who had no ill will towards you make you come off as confrontational at best and malicious at worst.
I'm trying to answer your questions to the best of my ability but in the end all the information we are at the liberty to give out is in the hands of the manufacturers who asked for the opinions of people they chose for reasons that are their own.
I'll continue to answer your questions as well as I can as I'm sure will the rest of us "beta testers" but please don't be surprised when the way you interact with people leaves a certain impression.
Cheers.
cx714
Unregulated Tendencies
As a beta tester, it was easy to look at the feature set and think “it’s just an OG with a click disc and a bigger bowl.” In practice, the whole has proved greater than its parts.
Yes, the bowl is bigger, but it still microdoses like a champ. When I first began testing, I deliberately started with my typical OG load. I went solely off the click and got solid results. The surprise was how smoothly the experience scaled— still only following the click, more material meant more flavor, more vapor, and more effects. No need to change the draw or heating; it just keeps up.
What I also didn’t anticipate was how much easier the larger, straight-sided bowl is to load. It works great with the funnel but you can also drop in a pinch commando with ease. With the OG pan, I’ll always need the funnel and a level of care. Day-in day-out as well as on-the-go, it’s a noticeable upgrade.
At first blush, the click discs seem geared toward people intimidated by the OG’s unregulated style, but the reality is more rewarding. If I’m watching a movie, I just need to keep an ear out for the click. Heating an OG isn’t difficult but between the counting and torching, pause/rewind is inevitable. Sometimes you want ritual, others you want invisible. With the new unit, you can have both.
As others have mentioned, you can use the new Vapman the same way you use the OG. What’s great is how the changes open up a new set of use cases. I’d never puff and pass an OG but the new Vapman gives you that option, even with a complete noob.
If I want the mindful, meditative “classic” Vapman ritual, I’ll still reach for my OGs. Nothing quite matches the experience, as close as the new one gets (that might be the 3-hole Vap-flute talking, lol). But if I just want to kick back and get lifted after a long day, I’m happy the new one is here.
Yes, the bowl is bigger, but it still microdoses like a champ. When I first began testing, I deliberately started with my typical OG load. I went solely off the click and got solid results. The surprise was how smoothly the experience scaled— still only following the click, more material meant more flavor, more vapor, and more effects. No need to change the draw or heating; it just keeps up.
What I also didn’t anticipate was how much easier the larger, straight-sided bowl is to load. It works great with the funnel but you can also drop in a pinch commando with ease. With the OG pan, I’ll always need the funnel and a level of care. Day-in day-out as well as on-the-go, it’s a noticeable upgrade.
At first blush, the click discs seem geared toward people intimidated by the OG’s unregulated style, but the reality is more rewarding. If I’m watching a movie, I just need to keep an ear out for the click. Heating an OG isn’t difficult but between the counting and torching, pause/rewind is inevitable. Sometimes you want ritual, others you want invisible. With the new unit, you can have both.
As others have mentioned, you can use the new Vapman the same way you use the OG. What’s great is how the changes open up a new set of use cases. I’d never puff and pass an OG but the new Vapman gives you that option, even with a complete noob.
If I want the mindful, meditative “classic” Vapman ritual, I’ll still reach for my OGs. Nothing quite matches the experience, as close as the new one gets (that might be the 3-hole Vap-flute talking, lol). But if I just want to kick back and get lifted after a long day, I’m happy the new one is here.
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Perfect_Speed4069
I am the beetle in a box that only you can see
I think this review is the clincher for me.
Thankyou and to others for posting such helpful info.
I share the frustration that the independence of previously straight talking FCers has been needlessly compromised by the requirements of their sponsors (did it really matter what day the click discs were revealed? Really?) but this feels like a helpfully direct review.
Perhaps similar diligence will now be extended to the spelling on the Nowinhale website. I'm happy to treat now inhale as a mom and pop enterprise (and extend the benefit of the doubt) so long as they don't adopt a bullshit corporate approach to their marketing.
I'm keeping an open mind for now. They make good vapes and seem like decent folks. I'm not sure this particular episode has covered them in glory.
coolbreeze
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The Click is great outdoors, even on a chilly evening. Here's where the new features really shine, they mitigate the challenges of outdoor use without really changing the character of the experience very much. It allows you to be a little more in the moment.
