Vapman

[borbjorbis]

Saw a comment a page or 2 back that someone suggested a user hold off before pulling the trigger on a new click. Is this a hint to a new vapman being released?

I'd be surprised if they came out with a new Vapman altogether anytime soon. It sounds like the Click took them several years to develop, and it only came out a little over 2 months ago. If you're thinking about getting a Vapman, you should just do it! All are great.

 

[RedZep]

With the recent Lotus drop I’d wager a fresh Vapman click isnt too far off. When or what wood? Not sure on that.

I imagine it will be the wood shown in this pic on the website main page currently. Looks like Zebra or Olive wood to me.

https://imgur.com/a/nlMBVte

 

[whatscooking]

Saw a comment a page or 2 back that someone suggested a user hold off before pulling the trigger on a new click. Is this a hint to a new vapman being released?

I saw that also and wondered what they ment, possible they were talking about holding off before applying the wood treatment.

 

[-green-]

applying the wood treatment.

Does anyone know what they are using?

 

[warren0728]

Does anyone know what they are using?

for what it’s worth … rene (inventor of vapman) uses boiled linseed oil

 

[-green-]

It is about trust, health and transparency, like the glue, if it is safe, why not be transparent?

 

[RedZep]

It is about trust, health and transparency, like the glue, if it is safe, why not be transparent?

Is what they use to treat the wood safe?
Well firstly nothing in the vapour path is treated. Secondly just what on earth do you suggest they are treating the wood with that could possibly be a cause for concern?

 

[T9R]

Is what they use to treat the wood safe?
Well firstly nothing in the vapour path is treated. Secondly just what on earth do you suggest they are treating the wood with that could possibly be a cause for concern?

A lot of wood finishes aren't considered food safe, including BLO which I believe is still used for Vapman Classics.

This shouldn't be a concern in this case though, for reasons like the one you mentioned. But transparency is obviously still preferred since people have different kinds of worries (objectively valid or not). Especially with such "intimate" items like vaporizers.

 

[peeeaace]

They won't highlight the glue. That's normal. But if we ask them, they say so. They are honest in any case.

Transparent. Not quite. They could have told the community right away. But they would have taken a risk, of displeasing.

I understand their choice.

 

[nicknobody]

Saw a comment a page or 2 back that someone suggested a user hold off before pulling the trigger on a new click. Is this a hint to a new vapman being released?

I hope they rerelease the v1 Italian because it’s a much better performing device.

 

[coolbreeze]

I hope they rerelease the v1 Italian because it’s a much better performing device.

I'd like to see more midsections, including the V1 and the 14mm and 19mm WPAs. I do like the V2 a lot, especially for cleaning, but the others each bring their own magic.

 

[-green-]

Secondly just what on earth do you suggest they are treating the wood with that could possibly be a cause for concern?

I dont suggest...
I would like to know that whatever they use is free of siccatives - which would speed up the drying process and may be present in many solutions that can be bought.
Secondly, perhaps users could buy something similar for wood care.

 

[RedZep]

A lot of wood finishes aren't considered food safe, including BLO which I believe is still used for Vapman Classics.

This shouldn't be a concern in this case though, for reasons like the one you mentioned. But transparency is obviously still preferred since people have different kinds of worries (objectively valid or not). Especially with such "intimate" items like vaporizers.

I dont suggest...
I would like to know that whatever they use is free of siccatives - which would speed up the drying process and may be present in many solutions that can be bought.
Secondly, perhaps users could buy something similar for wood care.

This is valid. I'm not overly concerned, but I would welcome the above transparency.

 

[nicknobody]

I'd like to see more midsections, including the V1 and the 14mm and 19mm WPAs. I do like the V2 a lot, especially for cleaning, but the others each bring their own magic.

More wood varieties are obviously welcome too! I love admiring a good piece of wood. The Inhale boys sure made gorgeous PH clicks and vgoodiez picked me a winner

Somone mentioned in TRWW thread they were interested in after market stems and maybe wpa's for the vm. Dave said there was some decent interest and he’s working on it

I would LOVE some TRWW glass for my vm

 

[fangorn]

It is about trust, health and transparency, like the glue, if it is safe, why not be transparent?

it's quite funny how the question about the nature of the glue was just "not addressed" and how it didn't bother anyone.

it's really rare that Fc users are so accommodating.
on another thread, I think we would still be on this question... and that the reactions would be stronger...

just a thought on the trust, reputation and credit that René has earned for Vapman...

 

[Hagbard]

imo the boys are so busy atm that they barely look in here. i will adress your concerns about the glue directly to them and rest assured that they are nothing like shady vaporizer capitalists that would use anything because its cheap and suitable for mass production. i am sure they will come through here.

on another note: love this!

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

it's quite funny how the question about the nature of the glue was just "not addressed" and how it didn't bother anyone.

it's really rare that Fc users are so accommodating.
on another thread, I think we would still be on this question... and that the reactions would be stronger...

just a thought on the trust, reputation and credit that René has earned for Vapman...

Someone asked directly and answered back on this thread. They said it's a high temp medical grade glue, the same they use in the lotus.

 

[-green-]

So it could be

Two-Part Epoxy Resin (Food-Safe, e.g., "West System 105/205")
Heat-resistant up to 150–200°C (302–392°F)
Non-toxic when fully cured (ensure it’s food-safe certified)
Strong bond for wood-to-wood or wood-to-metal applications

Food-Grade Silicone Adhesive (e.g., "Permatex Food Grade RTV")
Flexible & heat-resistant up to 200–250°C (392–482°F)
Ideal for sealing applications (e.g., mouthpieces, airflow seals)
Not a traditional wood adhesive but works well for wood-to-glass or wood-to-metal bonds

Zirconium- or Ceramic-Based High-Temperature Adhesive (e.g., "Aremco Pyro-Putty 2400")
Withstands temperatures up to 1000°C (1832°F)
Mostly used in industrial applications (e.g., oven construction)
Overkill for a wooden vaporizer but theoretically possible

But why do we need to guess?

 

[Electrofever]

in the lotus

Which part is glued in the lotus ?

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

Which part is glued in the lotus ?

The inner steel sleeve I guess ?
The part sliding over the bowl.

 

[Electrofever]

The inner steel sleeve I guess ?
The part sliding over the bowl.

Ok ! Once I had asked I got to think ‘where could something be glued’ and arrived at that conclusion. Thx

And I wanted to share this little beauty I got a few weeks ago from René







Yew is such a lovely wood !!

 

[passenger]

it's quite funny how the question about the nature of the glue was just "not addressed" and how it didn't bother anyone.

it's really rare that Fc users are so accommodating.
on another thread, I think we would still be on this question... and that the reactions would be stronger...

just a thought on the trust, reputation and credit that René has earned for Vapman...

When @peeeaace discovered the glue points I was a bit surprised. The italian V1 does not have it, it's got the top micah parts screwed in. My guess is, that it is easier and faster to assemble and there won't occur a problem like it might when you drill it? I would prefer it to be drilled I guess but I don't think it is a problem for safety at all. The air tubes are below on the bottom, far from the glue points and those are even protected by the micah. Even if the glue would not be perfect I don't see a problem with it. It's even a bit funny, given what is considered safe in this industry, I'm looking at you, plastics! Vapman is wildly natural all in all, even with those glue points. But, I'd prefer it screwed in instead. Cause it feels better.

 

[-green-]

Do you know if a new vapman is significantly shrinking at the beginning of the usage?
For some reason the mica in my Click got wavy after a while. It also seems thinner compared to a Classic.

 

[passenger]

I never noticed it, so not that it should happen I think! Can you show us?

 

[-green-]

I will, tomorrow.