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OF

OF

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u bwade wunner said:
i have an old one but one of the gold tubes has dislodged from the bowl.has anyone managed to swage one of the little tubes back into the bowl.it slides through the bowl but I need to figure out how to form the tip of the tube to seal it in the bowl.ive looked at watch swage tools on china sites but haven't seen quite what I need.
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I've had no trouble with the tubes on either of mine, nor do I recall anyone else reporting it. However, if you carefully watch the 'making the Vapman' video you can see them setting the crimp in the tube. It's done with a mandril from below supporting the tube (piano wire of the correct size should work). You'd need a shoulder to butt the tube against, a piece of brass tube with the right ID over the piano wire? Then, using a small punch and what's probably a 2 or 3 ounce hammer, it's set from inside the bowl with a few taps. A small center punch should do nicely here I'd think?

The key is the tube is very thin so it needs to be 'backed up' right up to the crimp by the pin on the mandril. And everything has to be properly aligned around that pin (bowl at exactly the right angle and flush on the shoulder of the tube) so the crimp is square and uniform. I'd be sure it was clean in the area as well.

Good luck with it.

OF
 
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NorVape said:
Me and some friends got the Vapman the other day. My third vape, their first, and we are all in love with it.


So, @vapman I think you have given me the tool to convert my friends to vaping, and also given me the tool to get more into the good old hash again :)

PS I pronounce it VAPPMANN, which makes it sound a lot more exclusive than VAPEMAN haha
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Looks like the new screen is a hit in the bull`s eye, thanks for the great post!

u bwade wunner said:
I ve had my mica for quite a while.there was a noticeable flavour from the mica initially but it has faded.i now sense a mica taste on the odd occasion if I've heated the mica too much.i read somewhere that the mica helps with radiating the heat into the vapman similar to the mflb.i heat the tubes on my mica when I think about it.

Saying that I'm itching to try a basic again .i have an old one but one of the gold tubes has dislodged from the bowl.has anyone managed to swage one of the little tubes back into the bowl.it slides through the bowl but I need to figure out how to form the tip of the tube to seal it in the bowl.ive looked at watch swage tools on china sites but haven't seen quite what I need.maybe @vapman can help?
ATM the flame enters around the loose tube and causes a slight combust sometimes in the bowl.

I have found the vapman to be an excellent flash vaporizer too.get the heat right and clouds can be huge.mostly though I heat and tease vapor from mine and enjoy efficiency and flavour.i seem to learn something new using the vapman every time..it takes time and patience.very rewarding though to hit it many different ways.Its versatile and a great conversation piece with whoever notices it.

Nice post steama..tagged...I hadn't seen the second one...will save me searching for vapman porn when the need arises.:):D
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The tubes are flanged to the bowl, normally they stay firm forever but through some external force (dropping on a hard surface, handling with too much force) they can get dislodged. To fix it, a special flanging tool is needed. This tool we made ourself and can`t be found on the market. May be you want to send your vapman in for repair. Thank you.
 
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u bwade wunner

u bwade wunner

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OF said:
I've had no trouble with the tubes on either of mine, nor do I recall anyone else reporting it. However, if you carefully watch the 'making the Vapman' video you can see them setting the crimp in the tube. It's done with a mandril from below supporting the tube (piano wire of the correct size should work). You'd need a shoulder to butt the tube against, a piece of brass tube with the right ID over the piano wire? Then, using a small punch and what's probably a 2 or 3 ounce hammer, it's set from inside the bowl with a few taps. A small center punch should do nicely here I'd think?

The key is the tube is very thin so it needs to be 'backed up' right up to the crimp by the pin on the mandril. And everything has to be properly aligned around that pin (bowl at exactly the right angle and flush on the shoulder of the tube) so the crimp is square and uniform. I'd be sure it was clean in the area as well.

Good luck with it.

OF
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Well I finally got it sorted,that is after completely dislodging the pan from the 3 inlet tubes in the early stage of the repair:doh:

the actual inlet tubes are stepped for the aluminium bracket to fit into and the inlet tubes are also stepped to receive the pan at the other end,2mm or so.

I removed and reshaped the burr tipped tubes with my utility pliers gently. and used a titanium engineers scriber to swage the tubes once they were home in the pan.,The pointed tip of the scriber was just smaller than the tube opening,arcing the scriber to swage and secure the tubes into the pan.they are firm now and my basic is medicating once again.i would nt say its perfect but it's strong and no rocking.just not to flash looking where it's swaged:)
I did an ISO swab on the bowl at the end of the repair.the tubes gold plated are soft and flaked a little.i could see copper in the hole section under magnification which was interesting.I then torched the ISO d bowl lightly to remove the alcohol smell and filled and reassembled

Thanks Man , a vapman is reborn and is back in the Circle.:peace:

@Mojo I torched the inlet on my basic after seeing you're work.:cool:

Coffee and a good light and magnifier are definitely needed working on the vapman.

Just looking at the vapman under good light & decent magnification makes You aware of the quality of this nano object..sheer perfection @vapman

Edit: thanks for you're answer.i needed to do an on the run repair with limited tooling.thankfully after numerous attempts it worked out.

I am interested to know if You have plans to release another or other products at some stage?

Cheeky question I know..it's been a good day!:)
 
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u bwade wunner said:
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@vapman Have You other plans to release another or other products at some stage?

Cheeky question I know..it's been a good day!:)
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Yes, we are planing to release a new product soon. It`s an electric heat station for vapman, the development is done, it works, we just have to make them. The unit runs on 18V-24V and uses
maximal 50W. An average jet-flame delivers around 100W but with the aide of a technical trick we could keep the heat up time as low as with the lighter, meaning that vapman is ready in seconds when placed on the station. With the heat station, vapman can be used with one hand only and it is absolutely silent, easy to use and no danger of burning. It features a light barrier, one led light with three different colors, a dial for temperature setting, a heating cartridge with thermo couple and is controlled through a progrmmable micro processor. A nice piece of technique in a solid alu and wood casing. There are pictures on this thread of a prototype, I think, the final version will be very similar with some minor modifications. The release will be in 2-4 months at the latest. It is made here in Biel, Switzerland and it won`t cost a fortune, we like to keep it under 100 dollars.

Hats off to your repair work, great that you keep your little fellows (@Seren) going!

Cheers,

vapman
 
OF

OF

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vapman said:
The unit runs on 18V-24V and uses
maximal 50W.
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Cool. I have a suggestion, however: Offer it in a 12 Volt version. We Yanks love our cars, trucks and RVs you know. Some literally living in a world of 12 Volt stuff (where 4 or 5 Amps is not uncommon). Not to mention all the boat types. 24V is extremely uncommon.......not that uncommon is a bad thing.

12 Volts would automatically appeal to a wider customer base.

OF
 
Seasoned Senior

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My Vapman just arrived. Unfortunately, two days of laser gum surgery makes me hesitant to try it because I don't know how strong you have to draw, and I can't create any suction in my mouth. Thankfully, my DBV takes no effort. Pax, Firefly, and Lotus are all in a holding pattern for at least a month. :|

It is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship!
 
RUDE BOY

RUDE BOY

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Last night I actually watched kinda dumbfounded as a friend stuck his index finger on the core of my UD after a few stems "just to see how hot it was", Maybe now He'll remember that that fucking thing IS hot.

Never underestimate your fellow man's ability to amaze (and amuse) you through their stupidity.
 
OF

OF

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Stu said:
Or even better..... how about a small portable vaporizer that doesn't even need a battery?

Oh, wait...:uhoh:

:peace:
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Yeah, but making evil global warming inducing CO2 is not cool with some you know.

How about 'the Bunny Hugger Special', that uses mirrors to focus the sun on the pan....... Better than the wind powered one of course. That tower really makes moving it around difficult.

OF
 
u bwade wunner

u bwade wunner

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OF said:
Cool. I have a suggestion, however: Offer it in a 12 Volt version. We Yanks love our cars, trucks and RVs you know. Some literally living in a world of 12 Volt stuff (where 4 or 5 Amps is not uncommon). Not to mention all the boat types. 24V is extremely uncommon.......not that uncommon is a bad thing.

12 Volts would automatically appeal to a wider customer base.

OF
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For sure,some already have 12V supplies for logs.that would work if the heater uses the common 5.5 x 2.1 power socket.i guess powering it with 12V depends On what vapman has put under the bonnet:rockon:

@OF how would You rig up an 18v heater to a car cigarette lighter?
There is always the ol' trusty inverter I guess.

vapman said:
An average jet-flame delivers around 100W but with the aide of a technical trick we could keep the heat up time as low as with the lighter, meaning that vapman is ready in seconds when placed on the station.
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Holy Mother of God:o

Concentrates too in a few seconds?..it might work for instant shatter dabs too if the temp range goes high enough.
 
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OF

OF

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u bwade wunner said:
@OF how would You rig up an 18v heater to a car cigarette lighter?
There is always the ol' trusty inverter I guess.
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An inverter, but not the one you're thinking of. There are a host of 12 VDC to 18 to 20 or so VDC inverters for running laptops in autos (18 is a pretty common LT Voltage), power in the 50 to 75 Watt range is the norm. like this one:
http://www.amazon.com/PWR-INSPIRON-...5401368&sr=8-3&keywords=auto+laptop+converter

These guys have the edge being 'buck' type converters. To deliver 60 Watts, they only need to 'make' 20 Watts. They supply the power for six of the 18 Volts, letting the battery do the other 2/3 of the work at 100% efficiency. Less power used, less heat, longer life.

Probably.

OF
 
hoyo77

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steama said:
The heat station from an earlier post by @Seren (thank you)

This thing is going to be seriously awesome. The fact it looks like a log vape doesn't hurt either. :peace:

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I am speechless...oh my!!! @vapman would it get hot enough for concentrates??
 
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OF said:
Cool. I have a suggestion, however: Offer it in a 12 Volt version. We Yanks love our cars, trucks and RVs you know. Some literally living in a world of 12 Volt stuff (where 4 or 5 Amps is not uncommon). Not to mention all the boat types. 24V is extremely uncommon.......not that uncommon is a bad thing.

12 Volts would automatically appeal to a wider customer base.

OF
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You are absolutely right OF, I was having the same thoughts but I also had to learn that with 12V, the unit would get bigger and more expensive, which I didn`t like at all. At the moment I am not too worried about the appeal to a wider customer base, I am more worried about finding the time to do all the things I have to do, like making the first lot of these heating stations. Keep in mind that most laptop computers also run on 20V and the heat station will make vapman to the first and only hybrid vaporizer which is not bad for a start. Anything is possible in the future, also that we will make a 12V unit one day, but only if you buy one OF :lol:

VaporNinja said:
Vapman, how about invent a small portable vaporizer with user replaceable battery :)
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I would love to have the time to develop a battery powered vaporizer and believe me, I would try to turn the world upside down by having a complete different approach to it. I have a feeling that the electric portable vaporizers are all more or less very similar and the main issue is, as you can read in the threads, the batteries and batterie lifespan. I love optimizing stuff to the max, I like the idea of bringing the most out with the least, this task is fueling my brain. How would I do it, talk is cheap, I know. I would try to make a micro small heating chamber where the finely ground herbs get "injected"(Diesel engine) from a reservoir by pulling a small trigger. This would allow to vaporize tiny small quantities of herbs with a fraction of the power of existing portables. I don't think it is a good idea to use up to 30W with batteries, I would definitely try to do it with far less by changing the whole ball game. This would require very smart and inovativ technologies. I am aware of the difficulties of jaming resins when it comes to feed small quantities of herbs into a micro chamber. Only high goals are leading us to new and innovative technologies. Of course, I would make the batteries replaceable by the user, this is the smallest issue I can think of. May be one day I will be silly enough to try the impossible and having sleepless nights because my brain is hovering over some serious tasks. Thank you VaporNinja.


Stu said:
Or even better..... how about a small portable vaporizer that doesn't even need a battery?

Oh, wait…:uhoh::peace:
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Too late..haha..I did it already! In the year 2002 I made a human powered vaporizer, it is called pocket vaporizer and it is only a little bigger than vapman. Believe me, it works really well but it is not suited for the daily use, people would think you are crazy when they see you doing gymnastic exercises all over the place. This vaporizer lead me to develop vapman, which is far more suited for the general public. Back then I only used this vaporizer all the time, it puts a smile on my face when I think abou it. It is the ideal vaporizer for the lonely island, all you need is weed. Now I know that I was far too early with this gadget but I am seriously thinking about to revise and relaunch this unique vaporizer, the world of vaporizer has become far more open minded since then. In the year 2002, most people thought that vaporizers without digital temperature control don`t work. Once I learned how to upload a video on to this thread I will show you how I make serious and very tasty clouds within 20sec by using nothing more than my arms. The ultimate hard core vapor porn.:D

hoyo77 said:
I am speechless...oh my!!! @vapman would it get hot enough for concentrates??
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It works with concentrates as well as with herbs, the heat up time is may be 1-2sec longer, thats all.

I wish you all a good day!

vapman
 
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OF

OF

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vapman said:
You are absolutely right OF, I was having the same thoughts but I also had to learn that with 12V, the unit would get bigger and more expensive, which I didn`t like at all.

Anything is possible in the future, also that we will make a 12V unit one day, but only if you buy one OF :lol:
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Good to hear it's on your list. I'm not privy to your design, of course, so I have no idea why lower voltage would be larger or more expensive (rules of Physics and all). Not that it matters, the call is clearly yours. Based on what I know of customers in general 'bigger and more expensive' are not good features.

At least you're aware of the camping/boating/RV/off grid/battery pack (portable) market that exists here but I don't believe there? Lack of this feature would be a buying factor for me personally, for instance, and I'm sure others (based on Forum experience in such things). I will no doubt end up with one anyway of course, but can't speak for others (especially those for whom it would be a very positive feature). If the product is sound, I'm sure some aftermarket options short of a mains level inverter and factory supply will present themselves.

Regards and best wishes.

OF
 
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