Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud

supreme_cloud

Vapor only
Well the backstory is that the seller is actually the company that used to make the Cloud, so they are legit original models, but when VapeXhale and them had their fight I'm guessing there was some inventory that was produced but not yet sold to VXH. So it's just the manufacturer selling off some excess stock (but no support/warranty) priced at a loss (?)

Now if VXH actually paid for the Cloud's to be produced, and the maker refused to ship them and is just trying to make more money then I 100% agree they should be taken down. But I don't think ebay will take down anything that isn't specifically illegal...
I'm under the impression that they did screw over the owner(s), and morally they shouldn't be kicking these out.

I think they felt a little bad considering they started their price much higher, but maybe they lowered it just to move them as fast as possible.

Either way, something isn't right with it.
Makes me almost mad if I wasn't so vaked, considering I have $800+ invested in the legit company.
Leaves a combusted taste in my mouth just thinking about it. Lol
 

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
Well the backstory is that the seller is actually the company that used to make the Cloud, so they are legit original models, but when VapeXhale and them had their fight I'm guessing there was some inventory that was produced but not yet sold to VXH. So it's just the manufacturer selling off some excess stock (but no support/warranty) priced at a loss (?)

Now if VXH actually paid for the Cloud's to be produced, and the maker refused to ship them and is just trying to make more money then I 100% agree they should be taken down. But I don't think ebay will take down anything that isn't specifically illegal...

This analysis is flawed. If there was undelivered stock when the lawsuit was filed—paid for or not—they have no right to sell them since they do not own the design or the patents. Selling them branded as Clouds when VXL fired them and is suing them is disgusting, morally wrong, and quite possibly illegal as well.
 

Shrike

Flower Potted, Maxed, & Rio'd.
In time it may add to their legal woes...hopefully Karma kicks them right in the teeth. :tup:

Anyone know the name of that asshat company?.......I am "curious". :goon:
 

ScientifiK

Lifted Gamer
Can someone point me in the right direction on finding the warranty terms of the Cloud+. Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
 
ScientifiK,

tbill

Well-Known Member
I have been scraping reclaim from the bottom of my HT with a golf tee and finally have a small pile of it. Is it a good way to use it by simply mixing some of it in the ELB with the .05 of herb that I use in a Cloud session?
 
tbill,

SlinginPaint

As Above ∞ So Below
I have been scraping reclaim from the bottom of my HT with a golf tee and finally have a small pile of it. Is it a good way to use it by simply mixing some of it in the ELB with the .05 of herb that I use in a Cloud session?

Sandwich the goods between two pieces of cotton and put inside the ELB. Adjust temp accordingly.
 
SlinginPaint,

supreme_cloud

Vapor only
Can't I just avoid the cotton completely and mix it in with my herbs for decent results?
Bob Loblaw is right, organic>q-tip>cotton ball; but the reason for doing this will become apparent the first time you try it your way and then try it the way we suggest.

It will still work your way though, if that's what your asking, but not as well IMO.
 
supreme_cloud,

Enchantre

Oil Painter
Can't I just avoid the cotton completely and mix it in with my herbs for decent results?
Yes. Make a sandwich - put a little herb in the bottom of the ELB, sprinkle your wax/shatter/hash on it, then sprinkle a tiny bit of herb over it. Cap, and hit.
 

elmomuzz

That just happened...
I replaced the reg/green leds with some others I had lying around. It went smooth so I think I'll order some cool colors. :)

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elmomuzz

That just happened...
Yes you just swap in the new one making sure to observe proper polarity. I have a lot of years experience handling a soldering iron but it's pretty basic. The hard part is reassembling the cloud. I did it to a cloud + unit which has a lot of insulation in the upper portion surrounding the heater. When you initially take it apart it's like opening a canister of Pillsbury biscuits. It's pops open from all the internal pressure. The older clouds didn't have quite as much insulation stuffed in there. Do it at your own risk.
 

Purpl3_Haz3

On a Permanent Vakation
The hard part is reassembling the cloud. I did it to a cloud + unit which has a lot of insulation in the upper portion surrounding the heater. When you initially take it apart it's like opening a canister of Pillsbury biscuits. It's pops open from all the internal pressure. The older clouds didn't have quite as much insulation stuffed in there. Do it at your own risk.
Rubber-bands...Good, thick/wide, tight, or firmly sized. Put them over the upper (and lower) sections of the inner shell...this should hold it together, and prevent the "can of biscuits" from being opened :worms: (they totally need a biscuit can thing with a pillsbury dough-boy popping out like a girl from a cake, as a little emoticon, for this situation....)

And, IIRC, you can leave the band on the upper half (quarters) after the outer shell is removed, and then just remove the band from the lower half (quarters) exposing just the electronics, and not the heater/insulation. But, as @elmomuzz stated, be very careful, doing this at your own risk.

@elmomuzz, That is SO AWESOME! :D
 

elmomuzz

That just happened...
3 volts. I figure the circuit was meant to have the LEDs so I just swapped them out.

I've ordered some cool color changing ones so we'll see how that turns out.

The one picture I snapped of my work...

*edit* A little research tells me red LEDs only want 2 volts so I should have put my meter on both spots. :)

insidecloud1.jpg
 
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elmomuzz

That just happened...
It's a 5mm LED. The yellow one I have fitted in the red spot is a 3mm. The bamboo doesn't get hot on the bottom but I don't think it touches. I love how bright it is. It really lights up the tube.
 

Vapinghole

Low-Temp Hempist / JedHI Master
I marvel at how solid my Cloud is (just used it). It's so consistent in its delivery, and it has been since day one (August 2012). Nowadays, I can tailor my sessions perfectly regardless of all the variables (strain, grind, etc...). We are "connected" when I use it--it fits like my favorite pair of jeans. In fact, I have an EVO on the way, and I know it may take some time before I get this comfortable with it--kind of bittersweet in a way.

Anyway, this thing is a machine--literally and figuratively :)
 

Bob Loblaw

Astralnaut
So IIRC, in the past we have discussed the possibility of a smaller ELB, but it never really went anywhere. For the most part, I had forgotten about that discussion, and have grown to love the ELB. However, I still find that I rarely fill the bowl, let alone go beyond 1/4 or so full, unless I'm demonstrating it's ability to vape a full bowl in one hit, etc. The other morning (saturday morning, around 1 am) I was cleaning my old Extreme Q Elbow screen, which I use with my Supreme vape, and I started to wonder about using it with the Cloud somehow.

The first thing I tried was putting a regular ELB cap into the EQ Elbow screen. The EQ elbow screen is larger in diameter than the the ELB is, so the cape sat loosely in the EQ elbow screen. There wasn't really any useful connection between the EQ elbow screen an the ELB either, so I sat the ELB aside. I sat, just wishingI could somehow use the EQ elbow screen to vape. It was the perfect load size (for me) and seemed like it would vape really well, being slightly wider than the ELB, and being far less deep.

Finally, I thought about this one ELB cap that I had run over with my computer chair, about 7 months ago. (*ELB SAFETY TIP* if you ever drop an ELB or cap, and are in a rolling char, don't roll away to look at the floor...you'll probably end up rolling right over the bowl/cap, mutilating if not destroying it.) I took out the mangled ELB cap, and started to reshape it using the end of a sharpie (as per someones suggestion here)

Once I got the cap to look like it should (sort of) I sat it on a desk upside down (like a top hat...rim of the bowl facing down) and used the back end of a Sharpie to indent the cap. (see pictures below) With a little bit of molding by hand, this made the ELB cap fit nice and snugly into the EQ elbow screen, creating a mini ELB.

Here are some pictures...

In the picture above, the top two squares show a regular ELB cap and the bottom two show an Extreme Q Elbow screen. Notice how the diameter of the steel rim of both bowls is the same, but the EQ elbow screen is slightly larger in its capacity, due to design.




In the picture above, the left hand side shows a regular ELB cap on top, and on the bottom, the ELB cap that I inverted with the sharpie. The pictures on the right hand side show the inverted cap as well. To get the cap to look like this, set it upside down like the cap in the top left of the above picture, and take the end (not the end with the cap) of a sharpie, and push down in the center firmly. You can push and mold the edges to fit into the EQ elbow screen better.

There are three reasons for inverting the cap the way that I did.

1, it makes the cap more shallow, so it doesn't push as far into the bowl(EQ elbow screen) leaving room for medicine. you can't really pack meds in the EQ elbow screen, and put the cap in, unless the cap is inverted like shown above.
2, it leaves room, so you can pack a shallow bowl, as shown below, or a full bowl, as the medicine can go up into the underside of the cap.
3, it makes the caps diameter slightly larger, allowing it to fit snugly into the bowl (EQ elbow screen)...it won't stay in the bowl at all otherwise.



In the picture above, you can see the assembled Mini-ELB (EQ elbow screen+mangled/inverted ELBcap) with a regular ELB/caps for comparison.


And in this final picture, above, you can see the MiniELB loaded, and in the Cloud.

Here's a video...watch it in HD


*Edit - Sorry for the back to back posts. they can be merged. I meant to edit the previous one, but accidentally posted this instead.

can someone make a video of the construction of this! the pics are really confusing. i just bent up an EQ screen thinking that's the one i'm supposed to invert w/ the sharpie.
 
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