oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
Man, you've got great glass and really great lungs.
Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud
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Man, you've got great glass and really great lungs.
ilovebOObs
can i stick my male joint in there?
here is what i use to hold my tube when i'm not using it. its the packaging material from a solo box.
also i'm thinking of doing a head to head vs the LSV. anything you guys wanna see compared???
also i'm thinking of doing a head to head vs the LSV. anything you guys wanna see compared???
neve13
i think i overmedicated.
Hi all - was hoping to gain a bit of advice from the group. I was contemplating the purchase of either a Mobius Stereo Matrix 65mm stemless bubbler, or perhaps the clear bub with single Matrix perc and was wondering if anyone had any feedback as to how either might perform with the Cloud? I love my Vertigo hydratube, but now all of this recent fun has got me on a bit of a glass kick.
Anyone out there have either setup, and how do you feel it compares to the HT? (the single matrix looks like it stacks like crazy on the vids I've seen!)
Cheers,
Giant Robot
I have a Stereo Matrix 65mm stemless tube and the small Ion single matrix bubbler. While I can't comment on the 65mm BUBBLER I absolutely love both of my Mobii (is that plural haha) Both serve their own special little purpose with the cloud.
With the 65mm Tube I can take monsterous rips...like giant rips hehe. Excellent flavor, no tickle in the throat at all. Awesome for getting thoroughly medicated
The smaller Ion Bub hits the hardest IMO. The vapor has a shorter path to travel in this instance. The flavor might be a bit stronger but you might have a little cough after your hit. It's a little awkward using this as well cause you have the cloud right in your face. You get over it quickly though.
I haven't used any of the larger Matrix Bubblers (60mm and 65mm). I know they both are fitted with 18mm male joints so you'd need an adapter to work with the cloud. The downside to the bubblers is that the it has a smaller diameter tubing coming down off the bottom of the male fitting. After you take your hit the water rushes back into this tubing. Since it's more narrow on the bubblers I would imagine the water would rush back into that tube with more force. Depending on your water levels it could shoot all the way up to the cloud. It's something to consider. Here's what cIRclE has said about this problem:
You simply can't go wrong with a Mobius though. He apparently has a one or two new percs coming out tomorrow for 4/20.
MarcellusWiley
Dab Trotter
According to Mobius facebook he has 4 new perc designs. 3 will be released tomorrow. Each store around the nation that carries mobius (LHS) will have atleast 1 of each of the three new percs. A 4th perc will be released at a later date with an "epic collaboration" to announce it. Aqua Lab and Kulture aren't supposed to release pictures until 4:20pst (7:20 my time 
) so unless I drive 2 1/2 hours I won't be able to get one, I doubt there will be any available on aqua lab or kulture after the local people get their hands on them.
4/20 will be another Mobius blowout
Can't wait boys... exciting to think of what he has in store for us!
And yea the stereo matrix bubblers have the male joints and a "dish" divot blown into the top of the can. made for oil basically. the tube I have works great with the cloud straight up with the female piece.
) so unless I drive 2 1/2 hours I won't be able to get one, I doubt there will be any available on aqua lab or kulture after the local people get their hands on them. 4/20 will be another Mobius blowout
Can't wait boys... exciting to think of what he has in store for us!And yea the stereo matrix bubblers have the male joints and a "dish" divot blown into the top of the can. made for oil basically. the tube I have works great with the cloud straight up with the female piece.
Giant Robot
Well-Known Member
Thank you so much for the insight Neve. There is a place local to me that is supposed to have the new percs tomorrow so I'm going to go check it out. Realistically though, based on earlier suggestions and your input, I'll probably bail on the single matrix bub, and go for the stereo bub. Hopefully, the female to female adapter will add the height I need to keep the water from "ruining my day".
I prefer the look of a bub more than a tube, but if an adapter looks odd, then maybe I'll just get a tube instead. Either way, I'll also make sure and keep the water at the recommended levels.
Thanks again!
Giant Robot
Edit: thanks as well Marcellus, I ddn't see your reply until after this post.
jackstraw62
Low temp deadhead vaporist
It just happens that lhs where I bought my stemless is a mobius dealer. Can't afford one at the moment , but I just might go check them out.
PoopMachine
Well-Known Member
Mr. Smoke No More
Can't stop the head rush!
I've never used a sterio matrix but it seems unlikely that the water would go up into the cloud wo the aid of a little blow. I mean if u were using it wo the cloud this would mean that it would overflow all the time which doesnt happen. I have the ion matrix bubbler and its my favorite piece ive ever used, hit it as light or hard as u want and it will stack to the top of the can everytime, which is perfect with the cloud, anyone can hit it however they want and it functions flawlessly everytime. Plus the popping sound of the bubbles make it sound like its turbo charged! I agree u cant go wrong with anything from mobius. Hoping one of their new pieces will be my 420 pickup.
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
I'm rocking and rolling. If only i could get a Cloud IV hooked directly to my arm. Oh wait, i meant beer.
I think all VXC users should use a surge protector to help increase the longevity of the VXC. It was required with my VHW, and sure cant hurt with the VXC.
Purpl3_Haz3
On a Permanent Vakation
Heck, why not even go with a UPS (wiki article on Uninterpretable Power Supplies) Depending on which one you purchase, they can do what a regular surge protector does as well as their primary function...To quote wiki
Wikipedia said:
This would be ideal for anyone who would be using their Cloud or expensive electronics with an unstable power source.
Vapinghole
Low-Temp Hempist / JedHI Master
I'm a musician and use a UPS for all my shit, including my current home vape. I'll use it for the Cloud when I get mine.
Why am I not surprised?
I'm not suggesting that anyone should do anything.
I was just making a simple observation, with a follow-on logical (well, at least to me) conclusion : Anyone who feels that there are "many problems" based upon "every other review" having "SOME sort of issue" will quite possibly be unsatisfied and therefore would probably be happier waiting until if/when those "many problems" are resolved. That's pretty straightforward.
Possibly the more relevant question is, why are you reading something into it that isn't there? Might it just be because you don't think anyone should accept "imperfections"? Just a wild guess based on the "tone" of your many "imperfection" posts.
Anyway, the crux of the matter here is (a) one's definition of "imperfections" and (b) frequency/ proportionality. It would seem that you have a very broad definition, from real product issues like a leaking HT or a heater malfunction, through to very subjective considerations such as upper screws on the casing getting hot when the unit is turned up high or the ticking noise, down to a missing ELB bag in one shipment. I suppose that with a broad enough definition, including every reviewer's cons, one might get to half the reviews having "issues". But still that's rather meaningless.
Because, all "imperfections" are not created equal, and some simply, well, aren't. One off's don't count. And while any owner is entitled to dislike, say, the subtle ticking, there aren't reports of any owner sending the unit back over these things; in other words, these "imperfections" are such for only a comparative few, and apparently not enough to reach the level of buyer's remorse. Cosmetic blemishes fit in the same category; entirely subjective and apparently not chasing away customers. That leaves the real actual product malfunctions, such as those reports about the heater and the HT flaws - these real imperfections are of course not acceptable.
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Sorry I dozed off for a second, oh yeah, there it is. I did say I agreed with you about waiting for a general release, and I do agree with the big problems being the HT and hot/cold running clouds. You are right, the scratches are minor, but can you please refresh my memory when i'm complaining about the ticking? If it's NORMAL, and everyone's cloud does it then it's SUPPOSED to do it and I don't care. If everyone's cloud had a scratch in the exact same spot from a manufacturing glitch then I probably wouldn't care either. Look, i'm just making observations - i'm not even slamming VXL, I fucking love them, and SM55 as i've repeated many, many times.
All i was trying to say was that I was a little bummed with the QC after waiting so long so it could be right. It discouraged me a little that's all... if there weren't any leaky hydratubes and hot/cold clouds then we wouldnt be having this conversation. Can we just agree to disagree and move on please? If i'm breaking any forums rules then please report me to a mod because i'd like to know what the rule is because i'm surely not slamming anyone. You are starting to become borderline offensive however. Perhaps you should stop your fanboyism and accept these issues are a reality. VXL does and they actually WANT to hear these things because it will improve their process and product.
Happy to hear and thanks for contributing.
B. - NICE VIDS! Wow that first one milked up HUGE! I notice that even when you lift the HT, it looked like vapour kept coming off the ELB....is that due to a high temp?
Oldie, relax i'm NOT complaining....simply making an OBSERVATION because some of us require a little stealth. It's not a "problem" "issue" "imperfection" or anything.
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
Sure, fine with me.
Naw, I didn't think that at all.
Careful.
Now here IMO is the borderline. In one of your previous reply posts to another member, you also implied that those not seeing the imperfections as you do were "fanboys". Let's remember this is a two-way street. Derogatory terms and getting personal aren't helpful, I'm sure you agree.
Of course. I agree 100%.
If I have misunderstood your posts in any way, please accept my apologies.
To hopefully finish this off and move on as you suggest . . . I share everyone's interest in hearing feedback from all owners, good and bad. The emphasis of my posts consistently has been about having perspective and proportionality. In my experience working in electronics industry start-ups the blips we have seen have been well within the norms. My interest is simply in seeing that we maintain an appropriate sense of balance, that's all.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming . . .
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
Good, thanks for the clarification. I'm glad I was mistaken. Again, my apologies.
I'm not going to pour back over the posts. The pattern has seemed to be one of jumping on every little complaint as if it were significant. I'm not the only one who has gotten this impression. But if I'm inaccurate about any one in particular, mea culpa.
Your words. As in "your fanboyism" and "why because i'm not being a fanboy?", both of which imply to me that disagreeing equals being a fanboy. But from your response, I take it that this was not your intent and so I stand corrected. OK?
Please don't do that. IMO you add a lot of value, and I mean that sincerely. We've just had, shall we say, an animated discussion, that's all. Now we've both made our points, and we can move forward.
MarcellusWiley
Dab Trotter
Happy 4/20 Ya'll! Heating up the cloud and anxiously awaiting Mobius' release!
Bluntcrush
Director of Vapor Research Labs™
I'll second that motion! Takin' the day off for enjoyment all day!!! Happy 420 to all my Cloudy friends!!!!
firewatcher
Well-Known Member
The cloud looks amazing but i think i shall wait till it i can get it in the shop
max
Out to lunch
I don't know what shop you mean, but I wouldn't expect to see it in a lot of brick and mortar stores. I think distribution will be tightly controlled.
^^^^^^^^^^^ Yeah, probably through online distributors only i'm guessing. I know they were talking about having "reps" in different countries, but i'm sure this will take more time, at least until they get through the preorders.
Would be awesome if Planet Vape could be your Canadian distrubutor VXL
Would be awesome if Planet Vape could be your Canadian distrubutor VXL
Happy 420 everyone. Wish I could have taken the day off but the day job requires me to be in the office. Hope to finish up by 4:20 today but I digress.
Big thank you to Vapearts who came by last night to share some tasty meds thru my glass collection. Good times and good conversation as well. Everyone keep it safe and have a great weekend.
Big thank you to Vapearts who came by last night to share some tasty meds thru my glass collection. Good times and good conversation as well. Everyone keep it safe and have a great weekend.
I love it!