Pappy
shmaporist
That's your opinion.
Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud
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Bluntcrush
Director of Vapor Research Labs™
Speaking of Boromarket How the fook do you join?? 
I'm having trouble understanding how the Cloud can get you "higher"? I have used E, EQ, VHW, Herbo, Solo, for many, many years with all sorts of med grade strains. I vaped an 1/8th last night with the Solo and had a mild buzz, that's it. The main reason for the t-break is because of a recent binge (since the last t-break lol) and i'm just wasting my money on herbs that aren't doing much for me. I understand the cloud will extract everything and allow for bigger cooler hits, etc. but my VHW water tool perk did just the same. IF the Cloud breaks my tolerance or allows me to feel really stoned again, that will speak volumes.
I am however starting to get a little down on some QC issues. I know oldie indicated that it's only a few clouds here and there but it seems like it's much more. Clouds shouldn't all run at different temps....geez i've gone through this enough with the solo. One vapexhale cloud should NOT run significantly different than another. And initially I was turned off the vertigo because of quality issues, and now the hydracirc so i'm running out of options. At this point I wish we could just buy the Cloud without a HT (should help VXL with stock!). For a person outside of the USA, shipping back clouds or HT's will be cost crippling, unless VXL is picking up the tab which may very well be the case since their customer service is reported as being so good.
VXL: Please provide us with a brief update on some of these issues. After 2 years I can't believe i'm saying this, but i'm not really excited anymore and am considering passing on my preorder when time comes. The last thing I wanna do is beta test like I did for many Solo's.
You will LIVE with your VHW? Dude that's one of the best vapes on the market! Hopefully your expectations aren't "too high". I wouldn't worry about waiting too long for your Cloud, you're next in line !
partially veiled
Lo Boob Oscillator
Boromarket is the best place for glass on the net...it just requires patience. If you don't have patience then Boromarket will be no good for you. That's just my
Honestly though even without patience...there is something I want there almost every day.Mr. Smoke No More you might not have the same problems in ON as I do on the East Coast but I find, as a Canadian with very little in the way of LHS options, Boromarket is definitely the best (and worst $$$) thing that's happened to my glass collection. I would say if you have a hard time finding pieces you want locally and don't mind waiting a bit for stuff you're looking for to come up then I think you would enjoy a BM membership in the end.
I actually kind of think that the VXC and Boromarket go hand in hand...it seems like the vapor production, taste and enjoyment offered by the VXC is so supreme that all people will want to be "changing" in their routine in the future is the lovely glass pieces their delicious vapor is delivered through! So VXC + Boromarket is a winning team for everyone but your wallet
@Bluntcrush:
To Register: https://www.boromarket.com/forums/register.php?s=0442fa92c661da29fc20b7c8d85ed181
To Subscribe: https://www.boromarket.com/forums/payments.php
You have to register first and then subscribe, and it IS a paid subscription. I believe it is $50 USD and it is a one time fee that grants a lifetime membership. That membership is limited initially, but all of those details are explained when you sign up of course. I can't even sell stuff yet and I guarantee you I have already made my $50 back in savings vs. what I'd have paid to order similar things from big, readily available online glass merchants.
neve13
i think i overmedicated.
Veiled is right, BM is great it just takes patience. There's a lot of really good stuff on there, but if you're looking for something specific it might take you a minute to track it down. Lots of high end glass on there. I notice a lot of Sovereignty and Toro with a lot of heady glass as well. It's worth joining in my opinion. It's fun just to browse around and see all the cool pieces people have. There's some really wild stuff out there.
First on Boro...it was great when 521 ran it, now it sucks a dog unit with HPI driving it. He isn't vape friendly btw.
Second, I love the hits I get from VHW and have been a vripmaster since the early 2.0 days, but even with my dedicated vrip micstand, I hate the glowing hot hunk of fragile glass, the delicate top piece of the vcbs, and the fact that I have to use two hands.
I have 3 never been used vhw 3.0's sitting as back-up because of all the broken ones I have gone through due to their fragile nature. If I ever get my cloud and it works as advertised I will be selling them at bargain basement prices.
Second, I love the hits I get from VHW and have been a vripmaster since the early 2.0 days, but even with my dedicated vrip micstand, I hate the glowing hot hunk of fragile glass, the delicate top piece of the vcbs, and the fact that I have to use two hands.
I have 3 never been used vhw 3.0's sitting as back-up because of all the broken ones I have gone through due to their fragile nature. If I ever get my cloud and it works as advertised I will be selling them at bargain basement prices.
Bluntcrush
Director of Vapor Research Labs™
Man Bro-
You are running hot and cold on this issue...I understand that you are trying to wait patiently, but your posts are getting kind of old. Could you just stop analyzing every statement so closely and just kick back and wait your turn?
It's cool if you are tired of waiting, and you just wanna drop out of the que, but I have a feeling that you will change your view on this soon enough. Trust those who have gone before you, and learn from that. Maybe it's best if you PM members that you wish to question privately, because I am finding that your posts are getting to be a little bit of a downer.
*Mods- I am not trying to be mean or aggressive here and I hope everyone understands, but this community is like a family and you are like the uncle (or aunt) that seems can't be satisfied. It's 420 week, can't we all just do a bong? (with whatever vape you currently enjoy)
My
Man Bro-
You are running hot and cold on this issue...I understand that you are trying to wait patiently, but your posts are getting kind of old. Could you just stop analyzing every statement so closely and just kick back and wait your turn?
It's cool if you are tired of waiting, and you just wanna drop out of the que, but I have a feeling that you will change your view on this soon enough. Trust those who have gone before you, and learn from that. Maybe it's best if you PM members that you wish to question privately, because I am finding that your posts are getting to be a little bit of a downer.
*Mods- I am not trying to be mean or aggressive here and I hope everyone understands, but this community is like a family and you are like the uncle (or aunt) that seems can't be satisfied. It's 420 week, can't we all just do a bong? (with whatever vape you currently enjoy)
My
Why because i'm not being a fanboy? Look, I have nothing but huge props for VXL, but if there are problems with the units or HT I think it's fair discussion. I'm not slamming the company or the product and your post seriously makes me think that i'm not entitled to free speech? Was there a rule I broke? You don't have to read my posts. Analyzing every statement? Smoke no more made some observations, and I observed his, what's the real problem? The downer are the HT and some cloud QC issues, not my posts. Get over it.
As we have been ramping up, we have continued to closely monitor all the experiences reported here at FC - and we've been delighted by the overwhelmingly positive response you've given the Cloud. Thank you!
However, we've also noticed that there have been several reports indicating that some units are running hotter than others, and there have also been a few issues with HydraTubes. We want to re-emphasize our commitment to meeting your high expectations. Therefore we want to encourage anyone having a concern with their unit to log a support ticket straightaway. We will contact you promptly to help diagnose your machine and do what is whatever is necessary for your Cloud to work as promised
However, we've also noticed that there have been several reports indicating that some units are running hotter than others, and there have also been a few issues with HydraTubes. We want to re-emphasize our commitment to meeting your high expectations. Therefore we want to encourage anyone having a concern with their unit to log a support ticket straightaway. We will contact you promptly to help diagnose your machine and do what is whatever is necessary for your Cloud to work as promised
MarcellusWiley
Dab Trotter
Thanks SM! I think when I get the time I'll make some short videos documenting my experiences at 7-8 o clock, versus 12 o clock (the recommended 400 f temp), so you can get a better idea when I submit a ticket of what it looks like.
I haven't tried going way past 12 or 2 but I think I'll make three videos for you guys. my cloud at 7, my cloud at 12 and my cloud at 3-4.
I do have to say though hitting it with some of my best material at 7-8 o clock has been a joy. 4-5 great full rips before I get more wispy looking ones, # 2 and 3 are real lungbusters as well. So hopefully if mine is running hot, getting it fixed will only cause it to run more efficiently!
I registered at the site 2 days ago and submitted a ticket for my hydracirc. I have not yet heard anything. It's all good though since my tube only leaks a little when it is left sitting with water in it. I am still using it, but would like a replacement.
As far waiting for the Cloud, etc... I was in the same boat. I was sick of waiting, I wasn't excited anymore. To top it off, I had the hydracirc issue, etc. BUT I LOVE this product. It really does knock you on your ass. I was using my son's HerbalAire in my bedroom and put it through glass. It worked, but i couldn't take huge rips, so I was standing there for a long time sipping until I was medicated enough for sleep. The Cloud can knock you down quickly with some nice indica. This morniing I woke up to a small bowl of Widow- second hit had my eyes watering and my head exploding. I took one more and went off to work. Now I am home at lunch and hitting the same bowl again!
My opinion is don't worry about QC issues, if you happen to have an issue, i am confident SM will take care of it. He even offered to replace my Cloud because of a scratch (see my earlier post with photos) on the back of the unit. No way am I sending it back!!
As far waiting for the Cloud, etc... I was in the same boat. I was sick of waiting, I wasn't excited anymore. To top it off, I had the hydracirc issue, etc. BUT I LOVE this product. It really does knock you on your ass. I was using my son's HerbalAire in my bedroom and put it through glass. It worked, but i couldn't take huge rips, so I was standing there for a long time sipping until I was medicated enough for sleep. The Cloud can knock you down quickly with some nice indica. This morniing I woke up to a small bowl of Widow- second hit had my eyes watering and my head exploding. I took one more and went off to work. Now I am home at lunch and hitting the same bowl again!
My opinion is don't worry about QC issues, if you happen to have an issue, i am confident SM will take care of it. He even offered to replace my Cloud because of a scratch (see my earlier post with photos) on the back of the unit. No way am I sending it back!!
NorCalSivart
Well-Known Member
Mine is out for delivery too! Can't wait to try it out tonight.
Pappy
shmaporist
Do you know hpi personally? I do and am unaware of any vape bias. Please elaborate?
Silver420Surfer
Downward spiral
Hoping my replacement Cloud starts drifting my way today. Sent defective one back 6 days ago, arrived in Cali 4 days ago, got email yesterday that replacement should be leaving today(for a very hopeful 4-20 arrival). 
Was hoping to hear back that mine was indeed running too hot, just so I can be sure "how" my replacement should be working. sm55, any chance you were able to test my original Cloud?
Was hoping to hear back that mine was indeed running too hot, just so I can be sure "how" my replacement should be working. sm55, any chance you were able to test my original Cloud?
God you don't know how your customer service makes you so much better than so many other companies already in so many ways. My original cloud seemed to have heating issues (sadly broke before I could send it in) and hoping the new one is a perfect one, but glad to know that if not there is amazing support like this to get things fixed.
Not just put out a product, sell a bunch of units, make a bunch of money, forget about everyone when they start complaining about problems.
A lot of people need to learn a thing or two about business from you sir.
MarcellusWiley
Dab Trotter
Hoping my replacement Cloud starts drifting my way today. Sent defective one back 6 days ago, arrived in Cali 4 days ago, got email yesterday that replacement should be leaving today(for a very hopeful 4-20 arrival).
Was hoping to hear back that mine was indeed running too hot, just so I can be sure "how" my replacement should be working. sm55, any chance you were able to test my original Cloud?
I'll be really interested to hear as well!
stickstones
Vapor concierge
vape4life...I think you will find the manufacturer's presence on this board to be much more comforting than what you exerienced in the Solo thread.
Off topic but I used to sell all kinds of stuff on BM, 521 personally gave me permission to sell vhw 3.0's on the site all the way back in 2010, and I sold bunches of them there threw 2011 with no complaints (beyond the usual fragility issues VHW's inherently come with)until I stopped selling them due to those fragility issues (to be clear no one ever gave me any negative feedback or complained, even with fragility issues I always facilitated the warranty process with Vriptech)...
So I tried to sell a couple I had found in a box I had forgotten about a few weeks ago (so that I could buy the cloud I had been emailed about in March) and HPI and his slew of new mods told me I could not sell on the Accessories F/S even though VHW's are made to use exclusively with Boro (not stand-alone) and are actually MADE OUT OF BORO. Meanwhile butane torches and honey oil extractors and the like are all-good. Total BS...
So now that I think about it, Along with PayPal and Ebay...Screw HPI & BM for keeping me from ordering my cloud before they ran out.
Pappy
shmaporist
You're entitled to your opinion. Personally, I think the rules and mods are what makes BM a special site. I see several VHWs were listed this past month. Perhaps you could use that argument with the mods.
You're entitled to your opinion. Personally, I think the rules and mods are what makes BM a special site. I see several VHWs were listed this past month. Perhaps you could use that argument with the mods.
They were listed and pulled down (what do you think I was talking about, and while you are at it check my 100% feedback with over 50 sales)...and like I said, I was big fan of the site until about midway through 2011 and all of the sudden the culture changed to more of a online retailer rather than peer to peer. Notice as well that people like TwelveEarth (who the entire community couldn't stand in early 2010, due to gouging/selling other artists items that hadn't even been made yet), Now he has been welcomed back with open arms since he pays a monthly retailer price.
And again, go try and sell a vape there and see what happens. It's not an opinion its a reality, you can't. BTW find it in the rules where it says no vapes...you can't because it doesn't.
Then go try to sell a chemical hash extractor, no problem, or even a freakin butane torch, no problem...screw them.
sorry about the off-topic rant but it is a theme running through the thread right now...
