Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud

Cannabinaut

Cannasseur and Glasshead
My VXC early version is still working too and still make that tickling annoying sound....alas ;)

Reading qome of the posts here I wonder if some of you guys tried an LSV to compare ?
(If I remember well you had an LSV IamKrazy2)

Because eventhough I really like the Cloud, I barely use it lately, actually it's at a FC member's place for when I visit.
YES, it gives good and uge hits if you want.
Maybe THE only vape that would allow a one hit or two hits max with a big load (there is the Supreme Vape though)...so I understand why you can compare with dabing in some extension.

But come on, taste wise and ease of use wise, imHe the LSV gives as good and maybe "better" results.
Ok, there is a slight learning curve to take the most out of it, but it's so much easier to handle.
Take a hit, put your bong and vaporizer down.
Not, take a hit, put your bong down, take the herb chamber out, then put your vape down.

Also there is less conduction because the WPA is in glass,there is only a screen, so the flavor stays longer.
Meaning that I can get more tasty clouds with my LSV than with my Cloud.

When the Cloud is at home I use it to take a one or two hit load, but mainly, I use the LSV because I want to conserve and have more puffs and flavor on a given amount. And you can get good size clouds with it, believe me ;)
What temp are you using your Cloud at and how much are you filling your ELB? I think the Cloud is capable of what you are looking for if you fill your ELB to only 10-15% and have your temperature around 10:30.
 
Cannabinaut,

Lou

Active Member
interesting comparison, i was really debating between the two for use with water. Price wise theres no comparison, but does the lsv have the software to keep the temp constant throughout the hit? Thats one of the things I don't like about the dbv and makes it difficult to take quick back to back hits without manually turning the temp up.
 
Lou,

Raf007

Well-Known Member
Retailer
Clearly the LSV has not the same heat retention capacity, which means, begin with a soft draw before drawing more natural.
The other small risk is combustion if you don't know your vape and put it at full blast 5min and start hiting slowly. Like an SSV and some other vapes.
Ime I only combusted twice in 2 years, at the beginning. But the VXC can go there too almost.

At the end this heat retention thing is really not an issue once you know how to use it. And when you come from smoke bonging, slow then harder draw is what you are use to when you light up your bowl to do it in one hit. The LSV mimicks that and there is the WPA lifting part wich is another mimick and feeling that I like as for me smoking a bong always meant ripping it in one hit.
And there, is the thing, if you are looking for a one hitter the LSV is not able to it without sub combustion or almost, that's why I like the Cloud actually, it's a perfect one hitter.

At "equal" temp the hits are a little little more airy with the LSV but that and the all glass bowl is what makes the difference I think

Maybe if I had free meds I will only take the Cloud for its huge hits, but that also mean weedhog.

And I like to watch at the herb changing color when hitting with the LSV, thing that you can't do with the Cloud.

Hard to choose...better to have both :D

Cannabinaut: My loads always differ as I try to avoid patterns when it comes to cannabis, and eventhough I am pretty sure I know it won't do it I'll try ;)
 
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Maybe if I had free meds I will only take the Cloud for its huge hits, but that also mean weedhog.


Have you tried using less herb in your loads? For me, I have noticed that I still get huge hits and use less than I used to with my other vaporizers. Herb is pricey around my area, so I needed a device that would stretch my supply. The cloud has not only stretched my supply, but it has saved me money I would have spent on other vapes.

raf007 said:
Maybe THE only vape that would allow a one hit or two hits max with a big load (there is the Supreme Vape though)...so I understand why you can compare with dabing in some extension.

On my clouds highest temp with a fully loaded ELB, I can produce around 6 HUGE hits. I think that I read one of the mods got around 12 hits with each elb. How are you only getting 2?
 
VaporBoxed,

Ripbongs420

vapiff
Cannabinaut: My loads always differ as I try to avoid patterns when it comes to cannabis, and eventhough I am pretty sure I know it won't do it I'll try ;)

Just a thought to try and help. I would suggest creating a sensible, for your needs, pattern with your cannabis use if your want to conserve. Random load size can be very wasteful. IME the cloud can be used as a ass-kicking machine, or a ever surprising conserver. Choice is yours. Haven't used an lsv, so cant say anything about that.
 
Ripbongs420,

Ontariovapes

Well-Known Member
I'm not interested in buying them, but those feet are REALLY cool, Vaplexus. The no-slip and bottom clearance would be a welcome improvement. I love that with 3d printing tech you can design and manufacture your own accessories. It blows my mind. I'd love to see more of your personal creations.

Here's an idea for you to chew on: I was thinking about something with four similar feet, but for the top of the Cloud, exceeding the height of the gong joint to protect it and allow the Cloud to stand on its head. People using
the Cloud with a bubbler or tube can stand it upside-down on their desk/table and don't have to flip it each time they put it on/take it off of their bubbler. Can you try to design something like that? Again, I'm not soliciting, just curious what is possible with this technology! I don't think that's against the rules.

Also, where did the pictures go? Did you remove them?

Just as an unbiased FYI, and only because you asked Vaplexus was banned by the moderators. He won't be posting here anymore.
 
Ontariovapes,

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
Just as an unbiased FYI, and only because you asked Vaplexus was banned by the moderators. He won't be posting here anymore.

Unless he told you that he wouldn't, there's no reason he can't return after his ban expires.
 
pakalolo,

Purpl3_Haz3

On a Permanent Vakation
IMO I think it hits me harder, simply because I am getting so much vapor packed into one hit. Sometimes I jokingly say the cloud raped my lungs :lol:
'Vape-Rape?' :D :smug:
because it's easy to pull a huge hit and not realize how full your lungs are getting until you clear it. It's the only vaporizer I've used that I can compare to the feeling of taking a dab from one hit.
There have definitely been a couple times that I've taken a hit from the Cloud, and received 'dab-like' results, such as the full ELB during the 'efficiency test' I did :)
I used to buy a new vape every couple of months, always searching the next best thing. With the vxc, I stopped looking. Stil might get another volcano, it is a really easy way t vape in groups, and I wouldn't have to put one of my vxc's on the line. I was very interested in the oracle until it appeared they went out of business. Always tempted to get more glass, but if I'm vaping herb my vxc and solo will get me through anyting but balloon or bag use.
I agree with this, a lot. I felt like my VAS transformed into GAS, with the purchase of the Cloud. I no longer find myself shopping for vapes...if anything, I notice that I need to keep up on the new ones more now, as I'm content enough with the Cloud to just not think about other vapes. Like you mentioned though, a bag vape for group use would definitely be a load off of the mind. I've not used the Cloud yet with more than 3 people at a time. Not saying that I wouldn't, but I can imagine I would be a bundle of nerves, not getting effectively medicated, worrying. :lol:
On my clouds highest temp with a fully loaded ELB, I can produce around 6 HUGE hits. I think that I read one of the mods got around 12 hits with each elb. How are you only getting 2?
There are a couple variables to consider. How 'full' you consider a full, ELB. Some people stuff them, some sprinkle/let it pack naturally, and others use the ELB to scoop up flowers. Also, your definition of a 'hit' may vary, from theirs. So, if they are packing their ELB less full than you are, and/or are taking larger hits, they could easily reduce the amount of hits it takes to vape that amount of flower. :)
That's really too bad. I enjoyed seeing the things that vaplexus was working on. That 3-D printer is really fascinating to me. Hopefully he changes his mind and continues to share his creative "prints".
:peace:
I'd be surprised to see him come back here. Wouldn't blame him either :lol:
 

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vapor junkie
Staff member
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mscm888

Well-Known Member
Well it is Friday morning and I am glad my terribad work week is soon to close.

When I get home tonight I am cleaning my FC bubbler really good and packing 4 ELB's in anticipation of a Cloudy evening!
 
mscm888,

notmyrealUSERname

Notmy Well-Known Member
Here's an idea for you to chew on: I was thinking about something with four similar feet, but for the top of the Cloud, exceeding the height of the gong joint to protect it and allow the Cloud to stand on its head. People using the Cloud with a bubbler or tube can stand it upside-down on their desk/table and don't have to flip it each time they put it on/take it off of their bubbler.

I think this is a great idea. It would also lessen the stress on the power cord itself. I think it would be very easy for the vxc crew to (re)design the soon-to-be released cloud sleeve and incorporate some way for it to stand the vxc upside-down.
 
notmyrealUSERname,

Lou

Active Member
That wouldn't work for any tube/bubbler with a dewarr style joint, unless the can diameter was smaller than the cloud unit. Not sure even the ht would work with that.
 
Lou,

stickstones

Vapor concierge
I think this is a great idea. It would also lessen the stress on the power cord itself. I think it would be very easy for the vxc crew to (re)design the soon-to-be released cloud sleeve and incorporate some way for it to stand the vxc upside-down.

It also would put the bowl under the heat, instead of above it, reducing whatever slow cook there might be.
 

Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
That wouldn't work for any tube/bubbler with a dewarr style joint, unless the can diameter was smaller than the cloud unit. Not sure even the ht would work with that.
Not if it was a seperate stand you put the cloud into. :shrug:
 
Frederick McGuire,

Seek

Apprentice Daydreamer
I wonder how plugs will be in international versions. In US, it is pretty much standardized, but in EU there are several different incompatible plugs in different countries. So there would be a model for each country.

I think it would be better if the Cloud was powered by detachable power cord (female for the right end being on the Cloud). Also cord breakage would also be much cheaper and easier to fix. Just buy new power cord.
 
Seek,

vorrange

Vapor.wise
I wonder how plugs will be in international versions. In US, it is pretty much standardized, but in EU there are several different incompatible plugs in different countries. So there would be a model for each country.

I think it would be better if the Cloud was powered by detachable power cord (female for the right end being on the Cloud). Also cord breakage would also be much cheaper and easier to fix. Just buy new power cord.

What do you mean? I think only the UK has different plugs.
 
vorrange,

newVaper420

Vapor Enthusiast
So, I've been experimenting with my Cloud.

I still can't figure out why I need to turn it off and on twice before it starts heating. It does the 1 hour shut off, two times before I get it to start. It's not a problem, just a nuisance.

However, I've been messing with the load sizes like people say. I usually pack a .2 ELB. Today i split it to two .1 ELBs. I could not get the hits I get with my .2 ELB, and I could not get it as dark as I can when it's filled to .2 ELB. So I'm not sure what the magical secret is. Do I need to increase temp for smaller loads?

Thanks.
 
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