Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud

[oldiebutgoodie]

I think that was a design goal for the Cloud, if I recall the early posts in the original thread correctly. In addition, they also wanted to design a device that did not undergo a temperature drop during the draw. From what I've read here, they pretty much succeeded on both counts.

You're right, that was discussed in the first thread. I think VXL achieved this by finding a way to lower the pressure in the ELB which results in maintaining temp constancy, avoiding the drop off in temp through the bowl typical of other vapes.

 

[m0sh]

POW! Found it! I soooooo need this glass piece! I sometimes don't really see the point to water in the HT since the vapours are already so damn smooth!

I agree this is awesome.

It appears there is limited real data, I presume due to the dearth of controlled studies. The thread here which lists boiling temps omits the flash points as difficult to ascertain; the author attributes that to variations in strains but he does state that combustion begins about 260C/500F, not sourced. Vaporpedia shows vaporization occurring up to 230C, but it's also not sourced. IIRC there is a study done with the Volcano where the vape temps are set "just short of combustion" wihch is indicated to be ~205/400F, but I don't buy that, especially given the Volcano can be set much higher. I can't put my finger on anything definitive at the moment, but I would be surprised at combustion <~260C.

Well...I had my cyclobowl in flames at 250-260C ...

combustion starts at 230C>...it is very possible...



Moving on, so how many people do use the cloud with a whip? regardless with all the hates if none do so I will report back once I try

 

[vape4life]

Like oldie said, the 260c on the extreme is meaningless, it doesn't imply combustion at 260c because it probably occurs far before that temp. With VXL's new tools to measure temp more accurately in the ELB, I think SM will maybe release a more accurate temperature reference for us all, or at least max temps.

Regardless of the temperature range, my Cloud produces incredible vapour everywhere on the deal and continues to impress me daily. I just can't get over the quality of the extraction, the smoothness of the vapour, and how easily it is all accomplished.

 

[dirtpie]

Suprised I didn't see this here yet. Stonemonkey made the announcment that ELB's and T Shirts can be bought off of their website. Check out the store: http://www.vapexhale.com/index.php/store

Bit bummed that there still isn't anymore info or availability for the botanical blends. Exciting none the less that they've got the store site running.

 

[greystr0ke]

What is the Evolver HydraTree?

 

[oldiebutgoodie]

Well...I had my cyclobowl in flames at 250-260C ...

combustion starts at 230C>...it is very possible...

Moving on, so how many people do use the cloud with a whip? regardless with all the hates if none do so I will report back once I try

Side note: In one report I read, the authors indicated a +/-50F in the measurements. Interestingly, that's almost precisely the diff between 230C and 260C. Factoring in variabilities in material, oxygen intake, changes in temp thru the air flow, and imprecision in vape measurements, it's to be expected that some would get combustion at a higher or lower Q reading than others.

Re using the Cloud with a whip: Yes, I've done that. I used a female/female adapter atop the Cloud with the Q's glass elbow/whip. I was pleasantly surprised. There was very little drag, less so than with the Q. This is a nice little setup for, say, slow on-the-desk sipping.

Please let us know what you find.

 

[Bluntcrush]

Suprised I didn't see this here yet. Stonemonkey made the announcment that ELB's and T Shirts can be bought off of their website. Check out the store: http://www.vapexhale.com/index.php/store

Bit bummed that there still isn't anymore info or availability for the botanical blends. Exciting none the less that they've got the store site running.

Trying to hook up some tees but so far it won't allow me...Maybe this was leaked a little before it was ready??

 

[vape4life]

Suprised I didn't see this here yet. Stonemonkey made the announcment that ELB's and T Shirts can be bought off of their website. Check out the store: http://www.vapexhale.com/index.php/store

Bit bummed that there still isn't anymore info or availability for the botanical blends. Exciting none the less that they've got the store site running.

wow, thanks!!! I wonder if they will start including the packaging they planned all along, since there are pics of it up. Also curious if they will courtesy ship empty ones to current cloud early adopters as a thank you

 

[Troi]

Just wanted to clarify, the store is ready for purchasing T-shirts and Ez-bowls. So anyone that needs replacements, and wants a T-shirt feel free to grab (t-shirts limited availability!)

 

[JDSupreme]

What is the Evolver HydraTree?

Its got a price of $499 instead of $450.....

Cmon VXH we want pics of this unicorn!!

 

[Seek]

Yeah, put HD photos everywhere. So we can see all the hydratubes!

 

[Shrike]

Hey Vapexhale,

Just to let you guys know...the drop down menu for "State" you live in at the checkout Add/Enter billing info is not working. This prevents you from completing an order for any products.

 

[max]

the drop down menu for "State" you live in at the checkout Add/Enter billing info is not working

Works for me. Just tried it.

 

[VapeNStone]

What is the Evolver HydraTree?

I believe that is the bent neck one that boobs posted. Just ordered me a T-Shirt!!!! Everyone one the site worked flawlessly.

 

[Troi]

Hey Vapexhale,

Just to let you guys know...the drop down menu for "State" you live in at the checkout Add/Enter billing info is not working. This prevents you from completing an order for any products.

Where are you ordering from?

FYI all the store is currently limited to US Sales Only.

 

[Shrike]

I'm in WA...not sure why it crapped out for me...I'll give it another go shortly.

 

[m0sh]

Re using the Cloud with a whip: Yes, I've done that. I used a female/female adapter atop the Cloud with the Q's glass elbow/whip. I was pleasantly surprised. There was very little drag, less so than with the Q. This is a nice little setup for, say, slow on-the-desk sipping.

Please let us know what you find.

Its the perfect setup for my bedroom vaping experience ! good to know it works well...I don't care that its not as good as the cloud direct but its sure is better than my current EQ

 

[m0j0h4nd]

I've been using the whip from my Q with a cyclone bowl (with the screen removed) to feed my small beaker. I like it better than my Q. I can now get the same thick vapor at a near noon temp that I was getting running the Q at a high temp. The drag into the beaker through the whip is much less than the Q. I don't have an adapter to feed the beaker directly via the cloud so I need to use the whip to step down to 14mm. I like this setup because I don't have to pick up the cloud which can become very hot, @ 130 degrees near the top.

 

[jambandphan03]

Like oldie said, the 260c on the extreme is meaningless, it doesn't imply combustion at 260c because it probably occurs far before that temp. With VXL's new tools to measure temp more accurately in the ELB, I think SM will maybe release a more accurate temperature reference for us all, or at least max temps.

Regardless of the temperature range, my Cloud produces incredible vapour everywhere on the deal and continues to impress me daily. I just can't get over the quality of the extraction, the smoothness of the vapour, and how easily it is all accomplished.

This is making me want one even more... solo for now... solo for now... soon though.

 

[Pappy]

Like oldie said, the 260c on the extreme is meaningless, it doesn't imply combustion at 260c because it probably occurs far before that temp. With VXL's new tools to measure temp more accurately in the ELB, I think SM will maybe release a more accurate temperature reference for us all, or at least max temps.

The digital readout on the Q varies from unit to unit because of variances in the placement of the heat sensor. Nor is the readout an indication of the temp it vapes cannabis. The readout on the Q is a glorified sweet-spot meter. I've owned three and they all had different sweet-spots.

I believe variances in the sweet-spot on the VXC are more related to the size of hole (opening) in the base of the male joint that variances in the unit's heating system.

 

[RussyRoo]

FYI all the store is currently limited to US Sales Only.

Any idea when international customers will be able to get spare bowls? Some of mine are wearing out and I'd like to replace them.

 

[luchiano]

You're right, that was discussed in the first thread. I think VXL achieved this by finding a way to lower the pressure in the ELB which results in maintaining temp constancy, avoiding the drop off in temp through the bowl typical of other vapes.

That was me that brought that up but the lowered pressure will allow you to release substances lower than the temperature you put the heater at and much quicker. The only way to maintain temperature consistency in the bowl is if the vapexhale team recommends certain inhales to achieve consistent results because if you inhale fast the temperature will be much lower than you dial in due to so much air cooling off the bowl BUT you will be releasing more substances due to the much lowered pressure than if you were to inhale slower which will give a temperature closer to the heater but the pressure will be a little higher causing you to release the substances more closer to the temperature you chose.

Another thing you have to take into account is how you load your bowl because if you load it with herb that is a little chunky even though the air pressure will be lowered, a lot of the substances won't be released due to hot air not coming into contact with certain parts of the herb as it would have if you use close to powdered herb(not powdered cause it can clog up the air in this case) but even then if you load the bowl too little with almost powdered herb the herb will move around and even though the hot air will go through the small packed bowl most of it will go around it and the lowered pressure won't be as much as it could be. The only vaporizer I think that does this is the Aromed as the microchip calculates how much air you take in(it measure 3 liters, every 5 seconds from the distance of the heater to the screen of the bowl) and the red blinking light lets you know if your inhales are just right for the chip to calculate exact temperatures needed to adjust the heater to give the temperature you asked for. Them Germans are some smart mudeesuckas .

If the VXL team come up with certain criteria to follow this vape will add to more qualities everyone can love whether you want exact hits so can know for sure what substances you want to release or you just want a hard hitting bong like vaporizer and don't really care about being exact.

Anyway keep up the good work Stonemonkey55 and the rest of the VXL team.

 

[Slightly Medicated]

Well I just places an order on the new Store. I bought myself a black and a white VapeXhale t-shirt.

Everything worked during the check out process. I felt like the Zip and City field were in the wrong place. I tried to type my City in the Zip field and the Zip in the City field. It felt like the flow was wrong. Could those be switched?

 

[Troi]

For those of you curious about the Evolver Hydratree see photo below, one of them is my daily driver

 

[Shrike]

That looks great, Troi! Any chance we can see a video of the Evolver in action?