Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO

[CarolKing]

That's wonderful if folks can afford $500 water tools and breaking it late at night when medicated and tired is no big deal. Some folks also have limited mobility and handling expensive pieces might be a major risk financially to them. We are entitled to our own opinion regarding what works well for us. If a person feels they are getting as much function and pleasure out of a tool that cost $400 less than the original I say each to their own.

The EVO works great with the regular mouthpiece too. The vaporizer itself is the star not the size or cost of an expensive water tool. I've seen some fuck ups on some expensive water tools and then the company wouldn't take it back. I'm not talking about VapeXhale. It's a risk sometimes buying vaporizers and accessories.

I say spend $400 or 500 on a glass piece but if you can't risk the chance of breaking it buy DHgate or something that fits your budget. Spending $500 on a vaporizer is different than spending $500 on glass.

The EVO is the bomb all buy itself.

 

[His_Highness]

When @stickstones introduced me to a bunch of VXL and less expensive versions of glass in a speed test I could tell the difference and I'm nowhere near a glass expert. The VXL pieces are better BUT As @CarolKing pointed out ....It's a personal decision when it comes to the price point and whether the differential is worth the cost.

I would guess that a 'collector' who values the art aspect as well as the perfection and functional aspects would choose the VXL and other expensive, well made, pieces. For someone like myself who is a noob and not a collector.... $500 is a lot of money. If I bought a $500 piece I would be too nervous to use it...unless it were someone else's and they held it for me

 

[Oogendoogan]

Well put @CarolKing very well put, i agree with everything you said and I get that not everyone wants to spend money on glass, it breaks and there are a million reasons to sacrifice some of the function and art of a $500 dollar piece to not loose that amount of money when it breaks.

I used to work as a caretaker in So Cal and I know some patients simply have issues with mobility or they could have tremors or many other issues that makes using glass a problem. I would never expect someone with those issues to buy the real deal $500 dollar tube. China glass is good to have around and it's not all that bad if you know where to look. I just think credit is due to the great glass as well. When I see mothership pieces going for 20+ thousand dollars!?! Then I wonder where the world is going? I mean that's messed up and I can't explain why those pieces are worth THAT much to you, idk how they do it hahaha.

I think most under $1000 really nice American glass is expensive for a good reason, At least a lot of the time and I think the folks over at symbiartics and the ones over at 2010 BC deserve to be seen as better than the China glass blowers who copied them.

I would never be able to afford a $500 hydratube just to let everyone know.. I mean I guess I could but I would be way to afraid to even use it if bought it and I never would because that's quite a bit of money. The extent of my nice glass is some original VXL pieces, the bomb base, and an American double matrix perc bubbler I won from a raffle at the LHS lol. No glass snob here, most of my glass is Chiniese lol.

Cheers

 

[ataxian]

Man the original Symbiartics is so sick.. Have you seen one in person? That's a $500 piece of glass for a reason lol. China glass can be thick and functional but to say that the original sybiartics isn't as good as a devastator clone.. Or to imply that that devastator clone is as good as the 2010 BC version vapexhale came out with and China copied, is just rude to vapexhale and American glass blowers.. Like dude China wouldn't copy stuff that sucked and you don't copy something because you can make something better lol. I have had two devastator clones and they fired unevenly.. One was better than the other but still, Like each perc was different. It was thick. And it worked well but come on man don't tell this guy that that's gonna be a nicer piece of glass than something that symbiartics made.. Those things are beautiful and the dhgate are just copies.. They don't even have the right perc, it's a chandelier perc in the original, and honeycomb in the dhgate.. They're just stealing an idea for money and executing it half way..

That's fine for the price and I personally love that China glass is available to me but it's funny to read you say "no your not getting the legitimate version" because you say "dhgate glass is thick" ?? Lol dude I have ordered over 40 pieces of dhgate glass and it ranges from thick and half way nice to thin and halfway nice. They are mass produced and I am personally very happy and lucky to own some good glass because I use China and American glass on a daily basis and I can tell the difference very easily. I mean I guess if we asked you a Mobius clone is as good or better than a real Mobius? That's not good logic man! Lol just saying don't say something sucks before you get to try it, I used to think Mobius was over priced glass, why not get a remake? But then you hit a real one and you see.. Too bad glass breaks lol. But it isn't easy to make the super high quality stuff like that sybiartics tube.. I mean that's a beautiful piece of art compared even to the China remake of it, that thing looks beautiful.

If anyone gets the real sybiartics please post some pics and some videos. those things are so sick!

Cheers FC,
Stay Vaped

Glass is only a great material.
CANNABIS; FINE WINE; Desert all taste great with glass.

We must have other materials than glass?
Does not effect flavor and Does not break.

I have Custom Made pieces with crooked perks.
I have IMPORTS with straight perks.
Filling a trash can full of glass no problem. (I've done it)
Import or custom glass breaks equally the same!

Time for a EVO session with my favorite ASH COLLECTOR and JHOOK.

I just need to rig it!

Not to be pompus however VAPORIERS and parts are not of any real value.
Glass and WOOD are only a medium.

1990 computer is worth=?

 

[poonman]

To compromise ,
I like to add expensive water to my cheap HT .

wtf , check out #1 ....
http://www.therichest.com/expensive...ic-and-expensive-bottled-waters-in-the-world/

 

[Vapor King]

Man the original Symbiartics is so sick.. Have you seen one in person? That's a $500 piece of glass for a reason lol. China glass can be thick and functional but to say that the original sybiartics isn't as good as a devastator clone.. Or to imply that that devastator clone is as good as the 2010 BC version vapexhale came out with and China copied, is just rude to vapexhale and American glass blowers.. Like dude China wouldn't copy stuff that sucked and you don't copy something because you can make something better lol. I have had two devastator clones and they fired unevenly.. One was better than the other but still, Like each perc was different. It was thick. And it worked well but come on man don't tell this guy that that's gonna be a nicer piece of glass than something that symbiartics made.. Those things are beautiful and the dhgate are just copies.. They don't even have the right perc, it's a chandelier perc in the original, and honeycomb in the dhgate.. They're just stealing an idea for money and executing it half way..

That's fine for the price and I personally love that China glass is available to me but it's funny to read you say "no your not getting the legitimate version" because you say "dhgate glass is thick" ?? Lol dude I have ordered over 40 pieces of dhgate glass and it ranges from thick and half way nice to thin and halfway nice. They are mass produced and I am personally very happy and lucky to own some good glass because I use China and American glass on a daily basis and I can tell the difference very easily. I mean I guess if we asked you a Mobius clone is as good or better than a real Mobius? That's not good logic man! Lol just saying don't say something sucks before you get to try it, I used to think Mobius was over priced glass, why not get a remake? But then you hit a real one and you see.. Too bad glass breaks lol. But it isn't easy to make the super high quality stuff like that sybiartics tube.. I mean that's a beautiful piece of art compared even to the China remake of it, that thing looks beautiful.

If anyone gets the real sybiartics please post some pics and some videos. those things are so sick!

Cheers FC,
Stay Vaped

You got yourself all work you over nothing there little buddy ..... NEVER SAID NICER!!! NEVER SAID DEVASTATOR CLONE WAS BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL!!! NEVER SAID CHINA WAS BETTER THAN AMERICA!!! NEVER SAID CLONE WAS BETTER THAN SYMBIARTICS!!!

What I did say was once they gets it they will not think they need to spend 10X as much for it and since the devastator is no long made... he should pick up the FC-MOD

Now BREATHE!!

 

[wildything]

You got yourself all work you over nothing there little buddy ..... NEVER SAID NICER!!! NEVER SAID DEVASTATOR CLONE WAS BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL!!! NEVER SAID CHINA WAS BETTER THAN AMERICA!!! NEVER SAID CLONE WAS BETTER THAN SYMBIARTICS!!!

What I did say was once they gets it they will not think they need to spend 10X as much for it and since the devastator is no long made... he should pick up the FC-MOD

Now BREATHE!!

+1 for fc-mod. One hell of a bubbler. I just recieved it last night. It's a small can and I wish I could try a real devastator to compare but it's still very good indeed.

 

[Oogendoogan]

You will NOT be buying the "legitimate version" DH stuff is great quality / thick glass....as long as you buy from a reputable seller.

What you should be buying to go with all your HT or to use on it's on is the Devastator replica.....this thing is a beast. I think you would enjoy it more than any of your HT.

http://www.dhgate.com/product/2015-new-34-5cm-height-glass-bong-with-matrix/255741536.html

lol bro the post speaks for itself you said you will NOT be buying the "legitimate version" and posted a video of the real devastator lol.. i wasnt even mad dude i was just pointing out that the info that you posted is kinda misleading.. like your posting a video of the 2010 bc devastator and telling people thats the dhgate one basically. Have a good day dude i hope you enjoy your evo as much as i do

 

[Vapor King]

lol bro the post speaks for itself you said you will NOT be buying the "legitimate version" and posted a video of the real devastator lol.. i wasnt even mad dude i was just pointing out that the info that you posted is kinda useless.. like your posting a video of the 2010 bc devastator and telling people thats the dhgate one basically. Have a good day dude i hope you enjoy your evo as much as i do

 

[Oogendoogan]

the fc mod is a great bubbler i bought two so it would be perfect when i had them. i used to break alot of glass but now with my own place and no room mates ive done a good job, fingers crossed lol. but that thing is awesome. it isnt a 2010 bc piece unfortunately but it will kick you in the head i promise. great customizeable piece for the EVO.

 

[Vapor King]

I don't like low temperture vaporizing? (makes me sick)
There is a Professor who thinks it's good to forget.
I love flavor and even at 2:00 on the EVO I obtain FLAVOR?
My ABV is yellow not black?
I have a little over 2 pounds.
Too lazy to do anything with it!

Nice one!! I do the same thing some times. No need to waste $200 on a hydrabase when you can be Macgyver for $4

 

[Simplicius]

Nice one!! I do the same thing some times. No need to waste $200 on a hydrabase when you can be Macgyver for $4

I don't want to keep this kind of discussion going, but in every second post of yours there seems to the sentiment of your purchases being based in more reasonable thought, than what others do with their money. Let me just tell you, that value proposition is always very subjective and I think it's strange to see you implying you objectively know the best way to spend money.

Like I said, I don't even want to discuss this, but don't be surprised if people pick up those subtle but obvious signs of you trying to ridicule others for simply and rightfully using their money for whatever makes them happy.

 

[ataxian]

Like I said, I don't even want to discuss this, but don't be surprised if people pick up those subtle but obvious signs of you trying to ridicule others for simply and rightfully using their money for whatever makes them happy.

Hey who cares about money?
Spend it the way you see fit!

I like CANNABIS more than any device: glass or otherwise!

You need money to buy a wild plant?


It's so easy to grow?

Money?

Really?

I'm going to EVO some more so I can ponder what you said?

 

[wootze]

Speaking as a disabled person with extensive motor difficulties...I've broken nearly $600 worth of American glass, a möbius and two VXL's. Oddly enough, never broken a VXL bamboo.

It's just as easy to break a $40 piece but a lot less painful.

 

[ataxian]

Speaking as a disabled person with extensive motor difficulties...I've broken nearly $600 worth of American glass, a möbius and two VXL's. Oddly enough, never broken a VXL bamboo.

It's just as easy to break a $40 piece but a lot less painful.

Finally a partner in crime!
We need to do a spread sheet comparison.
With my SCA do you realize I broke $1,000's in glass however I'm embarrassed to confirm such waste.

I had a lot of glass made in USA and broke most of it.
Some hate me however I do get some imported glass to off set the cost!

JOINTS are the best!
I can't handle the best anymore.

At least the FLAVOR in a EVO is amazing!
EFFECT = intense

By the OCEAN we have PLATINUM OG?
At least it's free!

3 - 5 foot colas with no seeds.

CIVILIZED!

 

[Senor Diesel]

Vapor King is right, though. The difference in design/function won't be worth an additional $450 to many people (especially if you're average income). I'd probably get more dirty looks for spending $500 on glass, than for buying a Chinese knockoff.

Definitely support Vapexhale/Symbiartic if you've got the cash, though. Their glass is likely thicker around the joints, higher quality, and made by reputable people. I'm by no means suggesting people shouldn't support Vapexhale/Symbiartic, as they are great at what they do. I just feel it would be foolish to spend so much, given my income, though.

Speaking as a disabled person with extensive motor difficulties...I've broken nearly $600 worth of American glass, a möbius and two VXL's. Oddly enough, never broken a VXL bamboo.

It's just as easy to break a $40 piece but a lot less painful.

I've broken a lot of glass as well and can attest to the durability. I've tapped the glass a number of times and still have yet to see any wear.

Nice one!! I do the same thing some times. No need to waste $200 on a hydrabase when you can be Macgyver for $4

I'd get something like the Devastator, but I had a very unpleasant mishap the other day. I tried inhaling directly from the medical tubing (as I didn't get an external rig, yet). It worked surprisingly well, but I noticed an extremely foul odor emanating from the tubing an hour later.

Could smell it from inside the desk drawer and everything. I'd be cautious about connecting any external pieces to it, depending on where my session is. Perhaps it's user error and I just combusted without realizing? Do you guys get stenches from medical tubing?

 

[Vapor King]

Vapor King is right, though. The difference in design/function won't be worth an additional $450 to many people (especially if you're average income). I'd probably get more dirty looks for spending $500 on glass, than for buying a Chinese knockoff.

Definitely support Vapexhale/Symbiartic if you've got the cash, though. Their glass is likely thicker around the joints, higher quality, and made by reputable people. I'm by no means suggesting people shouldn't support Vapexhale/Symbiartic, as they are great at what they do. I just feel it would be foolish to spend so much, given my income, though.



I've broken a lot of glass as well and can attest to the durability. I've tapped the glass a number of times and still have yet to see any wear.



I'd get something like the Devastator, but I had a very unpleasant mishap the other day. I tried inhaling directly from the medical tubing (as I didn't get an external rig, yet). It worked surprisingly well, but I noticed an extremely foul odor emanating from the tubing an hour later.

Could smell it from inside the desk drawer and everything. I'd be cautious about connecting any external pieces to it, depending on where my session is. Perhaps it's user error and I just combusted without realizing? Do you guys get stenches from medical tubing?

Thanks Senor Diesel!,, since my reply was to your message and was directed towards you cuz I knew you didn't want to spend $500 and you were hoping that what you bought would be "ok"

Definitely check out the FC-MOD...no tubes involved....all glass and you also use your hydratubes with it. The one pictured above is the FC-UFO

The FC-MOD is the remake of the Devastator

Here is a great picture of one with some HT attached
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vapexhale-cloud-evo.11357/page-501#post-982782

Check it out....GREAT PIECE!!!

 

[m0sh]

The Dhgate model also lacks branding and a 4th honeycomb. It looks very similar in design and function, though. At a price of -$450, it's worth trying. Don't get me wrong, if it's lacking I'll probably buy the legitimate version. Dhgate stuff is all fresh out of China.

Link?

 

[Vapor King]

Link?

3 honeycomb
http://www.dhgate.com/product/2016-...glass/385487849.html#s1-0-1b;searl|2310230619

4 honeycomb
http://www.dhgate.com/product/new-v...atube/385485538.html#s1-3-1b;searl|2310230619

 

[m0sh]

3 honeycomb
http://www.dhgate.com/product/2016-...glass/385487849.html#s1-0-1b;searl|2310230619

4 honeycomb
http://www.dhgate.com/product/new-v...atube/385485538.html#s1-3-1b;searl|2310230619

Which one would you prefer?
I guess there's no one like this that you can put the EVO upside down right?

 

[Senor Diesel]

Thanks Senor Diesel!,, since my reply was to your message and was directed towards you cuz I knew you didn't want to spend $500 and you were hoping that what you bought would be "ok"

Definitely check out the FC-MOD...no tubes involved....all glass and you also use your hydratubes with it. The one pictured above is the FC-UFO

The FC-MOD is the remake of the Devastator

Here is a great picture of one with some HT attached
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vapexhale-cloud-evo.11357/page-501#post-982782

Check it out....GREAT PIECE!!!

Do you recommend this one?
http://www.dhgate.com/product/2015-new-34-5cm-height-glass-bong-with-matrix

To be honest, I'd probably have to use the medical tubing and get an adapter, as I'd hate to mount the Vapexhale upside down on any glass (much less Chinese).

 

[Simplicius]

Vapor King is right, though. The difference in design/function won't be worth an additional $450 to many people (especially if you're average income). I'd probably get more dirty looks for spending $500 on glass, than for buying a Chinese knockoff

Again, I don't want to keep this going, but I have to comment on this since you're basically suggesting that I was stating that there's a correct way. However, my goal was quite the opposite, I advocated for the subjectiveness of value, so all in all I'm saying nobody should bash anyone for what they're buying - it's fully dependant on what suits your needs.

 

[Senor Diesel]

Again, I don't want to keep this going, but I have to comment on this since you're basically suggesting that I was stating that there's a correct way. However, my goal was quite the opposite, I advocated for the subjectiveness of value, so all in all I'm saying nobody should bash anyone for what they're buying - it's fully dependant on what suits your needs.

I said "many people". No bashing.

 

[Vapor King]

Do you recommend this one?
http://www.dhgate.com/product/2015-new-34-5cm-height-glass-bong-with-matrix

To be honest, I'd probably have to use the medical tubing and get an adapter, as I'd hate to mount the Vapexhale upside down on any glass (much less Chinese).

That link didn't work...

But this one is from one of the reputable sellers

http://www.dhgate.com/product/2015-...atrix/255741536.html#s1-0-1b;searl|2140532829

IMHO.... This blows away any HT I have used up to this point.... American/Chinese.

Give it a go.... You will be glad you did

Again, I don't want to keep this going, but I have to comment on this since you're basically suggesting that I was stating that there's a correct way. However, my goal was quite the opposite, I advocated for the subjectiveness of value, so all in all I'm saying nobody should bash anyone for what they're buying - it's fully dependant on what suits your needs.

Stop being a troll

mod note: Please cease your back to back posting and your violations of the 'Be Nice' rule.

 

[m0sh]

Hey guys,
Does hash works good with the nail? or only dabs and such?