NinjaMindTriks
Ninja Vapor Enthusiast
I was wondering the same thing!
Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO
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VapeNStone
Mark
To protect the base? Lol
Zangano Cruel
IG zan.cru (code) zancru (5% NV checkout discount)
Hi: I really like to take care of my vaping stuff. I come to find a better way to protect the base. I wish the Clear comes with a thick Ion base on the bottom as well. At the moment is my way to avoid the fabled wear ring plus nicks, scratches, flea bites, etc etc
Looks awful I know, but in the meantime...
The best is the Clear function itself without all my extra adapters and so on...
M00NEY
Well-Known Member
I prefer my EVO's ELB's shaken not stirred...
back on topic, I have found that shaking my ELB's when there is closer-to-powered flower in there actually helps to mix the little bits in with the bigger bits better than stirring does. It seems to move enough around that I 'refresh' the ELB, if you will. When I stir and the grind is REALLY fine (my stuff is presently a little dryer than I like), I end up with all the fine bits at the bottom and VERY dark ABV, lightening as we move toward the cap. If I shake (1/3 to 1/2 full) I get consistent coffee ground colored ABV, or if I stop at the toasty taste, I get the color or rolling tobacco...
Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
Does anyone have any ranges they find combustion is quite frequent in?
For the last couple weeks I've been hesitant to go above 12 on the EVO, mostly because even 11 leaves my herbs extremely extracted and still milks most of my pieces, but I've been playing around with the 1-1:30 temp range. I went up to 2 last night with no combustion but didn't want to push it any further.
What are all of you finding for the "danger-zone" range?
For the last couple weeks I've been hesitant to go above 12 on the EVO, mostly because even 11 leaves my herbs extremely extracted and still milks most of my pieces, but I've been playing around with the 1-1:30 temp range. I went up to 2 last night with no combustion but didn't want to push it any further.
What are all of you finding for the "danger-zone" range?
Deadshort480
We're here to fuck shit up.
3 o'clock and above is the danger of combustion zone on mine.
VapeNStone
Mark
I can't combust on mine.
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
ditto
Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
Good to know.
I definitely know I can make this thing combust at will on max temperature...I find that pretty cool in a way, knowing the vape has so much power behind it I can willingly combust.
I definitely know I can make this thing combust at will on max temperature...I find that pretty cool in a way, knowing the vape has so much power behind it I can willingly combust.
weedemon
enthusiast
my rule of thumb is the higher in temp I go the lower in volume I also go.
high vol on high heat = high risk of fire.
eg I do 30% @ 2 o clock OMG ty SD_haze for the tip! if im in a rush this way hits me hard and fast!
Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
Deadshort480
We're here to fuck shit up.
Yeah, about 1/4 full set at around 2-2:30. One huge long cloud that wrecks my face. My go to method. 
M00NEY
Well-Known Member
Gonna try less with more in t minus 1 hour. I have combusted one time only and I am certain it was a too full ELB of too dry flower, ground too fine and pulled for one too many hits.
Cleanup amazed me. How much dirtier one second of fire gets the glass vs 5 days of vaping is astounding.
I have to thank you guys. I have learned so much from this thread alone and it keeps on giving day by day.u
Cleanup amazed me. How much dirtier one second of fire gets the glass vs 5 days of vaping is astounding.
I have to thank you guys. I have learned so much from this thread alone and it keeps on giving day by day.u
Pappy
shmaporist
2 PM or higher can produce combustion on my EVO unit. I'm vaping at 12:15 with excellent extraction.
Fame Is A Vapor
EVOnaut
After thermal mass has been reached (15-20 min warmup), my EVO combusts easily at 11, even with the smallest of flower loaded. My herb is not exceptionally dry or finely ground, either.
I've found my range is limited to 9-10:45 once thermal mass is reached. I can go higher if I'm hitting the EVO once the light turns green, not waiting for thermal mass, but then I am literally "playing with fire." I seem to have gotten an exceptionally hot EVO. Sounds like you may have one, too, @Dr. Plutonious . Once VXL is caught up with pre-orders, I'm sure I'll purchase a backup EVO and send them my LE unit for recalibration. I'd prefer to have more leeway when dialing in the different vaping temps for the half-dozen or so actives in MMJ. Right now, the entire range for flowers is compressed into a tiny section of the dial making those vape points hard to find. Someone devoted to concentrates, however, would probably have a different opinion of my unit...
edit: just realized I stated almost all of this just a page back. So, yeah, the EVO works. I'm vaked
...nothing I'm complaining about, just something I'll probably have corrected in due time...edit 2: was also able to get my EVO to whistle, but only when using the Fanatic straight tube (i'm guessing the increased drag contributes to the whistle? - more water=louder) and it whistles best at higher temps when I'm cupping the bottom of the EVO with my hand. Weird. With my SS Hydraline, it's virtually silent at all draw speeds/temps...
Funny, I had stopped using the Fanatic tube because it's such a bitch to clean after combusting, and I combusted more than a few times till I figured out my EVO is just plain HOT!, but now that I know my range on the EVO, and also know how to avoid joint lock, I'm finding out how awesome this tube really is....definitely my nicest piece of glass (sorry Mobius!). The opals are the shiznit, and not just because they're my birthstone trapped in my favorite piece of glass...they say something else: class. Well done, Swagger & VXL!
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Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
@Fame Is A Vapor
I think my calibration is pretty accurate. I have been able to go to about 1 o'clock without fear of combustion regardless of the strain or condition of the weed. It's hard to tell, I just haven't thought anything of it because my Cloud is performing perfect for my expectations.
I also notice the bigger the piece, the more it whistles. My 16 inch beaker whistles a lot more than my other, smaller pieces.
I think my calibration is pretty accurate. I have been able to go to about 1 o'clock without fear of combustion regardless of the strain or condition of the weed. It's hard to tell, I just haven't thought anything of it because my Cloud is performing perfect for my expectations.
I also notice the bigger the piece, the more it whistles. My 16 inch beaker whistles a lot more than my other, smaller pieces.
PhotoRider
Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
OK, you think the EVO is a killer, try doing two at once on a huge mofo recycler. Like 1.3 gallons of water, alot of glass and two dynamite herb vaping all at once!
Dueling EVOs - ZC sucking down two loads uses two EVOs using my 24” Hamm Hurricane recycler:
OK, Bob’s turn
You might notice there isn’t one of me, because well, you would need tp ick me up off da floor! It took ZC/Bob a while to be able to drive home believe me.
Dueling EVOs - ZC sucking down two loads uses two EVOs using my 24” Hamm Hurricane recycler:
OK, Bob’s turn
You might notice there isn’t one of me, because well, you would need tp ick me up off da floor! It took ZC/Bob a while to be able to drive home believe me.
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
Would you please share what you are doing to avoid joint lock?
PhotoRider
Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
SlideRight... looks like Chapstick, get at LHS. They have a wax version for sticking them together like on mouth pieces. Never had an issue using this and sticking...
OK, you think the EVO is a killer, try doing two at once on a huge mofo recycler. Like 1.3 gallons of water, alot of glass and two dynamite herb vaping all at once!
Dueling EVOs - ZC sucking down two loads uses two EVOs using my 24” Hamm Hurricane recycler:
OK, Bob’s turn
You might notice there isn’t one of me, because well, you would need tp ick me up off da floor! It took ZC/Bob a while to be able to drive home believe me.
Guys where was my invite?
Oldie I got some Slide Right for a gong set up I had that I was concerned about joint lock, but never had a problem with and I felt like the slide right made it worse. It created a problem where I had none. Others on here seem to like it but I found it unhelpful!
Buildozer
Baked & Fried
Damn, that setup is nutty.. LOL there is a lot going on there..OK, you think the EVO is a killer, try doing two at once on a huge mofo recycler. Like 1.3 gallons of water, alot of glass and two dynamite herb vaping all at once!
Dueling EVOs - ZC sucking down two loads uses two EVOs using my 24” Hamm Hurricane recycler:
OK, Bob’s turn
You might notice there isn’t one of me, because well, you would need tp ick me up off da floor! It took ZC/Bob a while to be able to drive home believe me.
Way to go!!That's a big MoFo for sure.. it certainly chuggs like one.
PhotoRider
Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
yes, try to clean it, 8 bottles of grudge off only filled it 3/4 full. Its HUGE
Fame Is A Vapor
EVOnaut
Today, I'm finding out that I'm still a novice EVO user. My combustion problems at 11, 12 on the dial have vanished. Several reasons:
1. I'm an idiot
2. Proper grind: I was always a bit disappointed in my SharpStone grinder. Just didn't grind very evenly, I was always having to force bits through the holes, etc. Today, I thought, what if I flip the grinder upside down, so the holes don't get clogged with those bigger bits of herb? Well, derpy derp derp, success! Perfectly ground herb that fell right into the lower chamber after I flipped the grinder right-side up.
3. (also #007)
"Shaken, not stirred." Much like the Tao of Steve - there is much wisdom in the words of James Bond.
This is also keeping my ELBs cleaner!
4. Re-evaluating when not stoned: My first several combustions were at high temps (2-3). My next set of combustions were at 12 and 11. The early set of these were with ELBs that had either already been vaped to some extent, or they had been prepared earlier (ie. night before) and therefore had most likely dried out considerably. All of these were using unevenly ground herb. Later combustions @11 happened while I was tamping down small amounts (1/5 - 1/3 full) with the marble on my LSV pick. All improper techniques!
5. How to load an ELB: No tamping is necessary. At most temps, it's actually best to keep herb away from the sides of the ELB as much as possible, especially the welds (all along the bottom circumference and one on the side) because that's where major heat builds up, and this is all achieved through proper grind and NOT overing.
So it appears there IS at least ONE MAJOR FLAW in the EVO's design: it's not idiot-proof, or at least not enough for this idiot But thanks to FC, idiots can learn! Thank you, @Dr. Plutonious , for getting me to re-evaluate my conclusions, and @M00NEY , same to you, too.
edit(s): all that said, and I just combusted again at 12. Color me clueless now....
(just realized it was the 2nd ELB of a new strain...Grape Soda. This 2nd ELB was filled just under 1/2 full and combusted during the first pull; the 1st ELB was 1/3 full and came out dark brown AVB after 1 pull. Checked against the other strain I'd been using today. My Grape Soda is definitely drier...gonna have to dial down the temp. Not so clueless anymore. Still an idiot, apparently! 
Maybe I need to look into getting those humidifying packets to keep all my flower at the same moisture level? Anybody doing this? (h/t @Caligula : Boveda packs )
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M00NEY
Well-Known Member
man, I was able to contribute (a little bit) WAY sooner than I expected. Glad you worked it out @Fame Is A Vapor!
and FWIW, IMO, you'd only be an idiot if you couldn't figure any of this out. Naive-on-this-unit is the way to go.
And I played with less in the ELB and higher temp in the EVO and wow... that works very nicely. This whole experience is such a departure from what I have been doing for 20+ years that it is an insanely enjoyable adventure.
and FWIW, IMO, you'd only be an idiot if you couldn't figure any of this out. Naive-on-this-unit is the way to go.
And I played with less in the ELB and higher temp in the EVO and wow... that works very nicely. This whole experience is such a departure from what I have been doing for 20+ years that it is an insanely enjoyable adventure.
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