NICE!!! That was amazing! I love the whistle. I feel like it adds to the cloud production effect. I love it!
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Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO
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Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
Holy crap. The EVO makes use of kief like no other. I've never seen a glass piece so milked. It was solid white and there was A LOT of it. Idk how a smoker couldn't love this machine.
This post just took me a half hour to finish writing. Yeah...
This post just took me a half hour to finish writing. Yeah...
I like your style, no downstem!
stickstones
Vapor concierge
whistle. i said earlier I used tissue up the bung hole, but the final result was an air filter that came with my Ion and comes with some other vapes as well.
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
There have been a lot of questions/concerns posted about the EVO's "whistle" . . .
The whistling is created by the EVO's air turbulence. In tests by VXL the higher pitch correlated to approximately maximum turbulence.
Some may recall discussion after the OG release about its airflow pattern dropping the pressure in the ELB and causing the air turbulence that moves through the ELB which makes for the unit's superior extraction. The redesigned bamboo in the EVO improves upon this, creating even more turbulence, and hence the wider range spectrum and even more efficient extraction - and the whistle. A contributing factor btw can be the diameter of the bamboo; the tolerance is tight but even within that close range a very small difference may affect the whistle.
As a user I can change the whistle by doing something that changes the airflow. One of my EVO's has a single high-pitched whistle that is only reached with a very strong pull. The other EVO has a soft low-pitch whistle if using a light draw, plus a high-pitched whistle reached with not quite as strong a pull as the other unit (so it can be jumped over). Ordinarily with both units I begin my draw relaxed and then quickly (but not sharply) accelerate the intake past the low-pitch whistle (if there) up to the just under the high-pitch whistle and sustain the draw there. I've found that at this pull or a bit less is the most comfortable and produces just as excellent vapor.
But note that other airflow factors may add or subtract from the turbulence whistle: My HydraLine and HydraCirc almost totally dampen the whistle, my Fanatic Custom Swagger also dampens it but less so, but my Mobius Ion Matrix with its greater airflow and the EVO inverted produces a very loud whistle (which I stay just under, which again feels optimum despite the difference). How full and dense the ELB load is and whether the ELB is fresh vs clogged, have also sometimes had a small but noticeable effect.
Some dampen the whistle by throttling the intake, with a finger or a makeshift baffle from tissue paper or foam. Personally speaking, with practice I can now pretty much anticipate the whistle with whatever I'm using, so slightly adjusting my draw technique is becoming intuitive. SM told us that "if you are inhaling below or above that speed (where the whistle is loudest), it tends to just go away". That's essentially been my experience, too.
The whistling is created by the EVO's air turbulence. In tests by VXL the higher pitch correlated to approximately maximum turbulence.
Some may recall discussion after the OG release about its airflow pattern dropping the pressure in the ELB and causing the air turbulence that moves through the ELB which makes for the unit's superior extraction. The redesigned bamboo in the EVO improves upon this, creating even more turbulence, and hence the wider range spectrum and even more efficient extraction - and the whistle. A contributing factor btw can be the diameter of the bamboo; the tolerance is tight but even within that close range a very small difference may affect the whistle.
As a user I can change the whistle by doing something that changes the airflow. One of my EVO's has a single high-pitched whistle that is only reached with a very strong pull. The other EVO has a soft low-pitch whistle if using a light draw, plus a high-pitched whistle reached with not quite as strong a pull as the other unit (so it can be jumped over). Ordinarily with both units I begin my draw relaxed and then quickly (but not sharply) accelerate the intake past the low-pitch whistle (if there) up to the just under the high-pitch whistle and sustain the draw there. I've found that at this pull or a bit less is the most comfortable and produces just as excellent vapor.
But note that other airflow factors may add or subtract from the turbulence whistle: My HydraLine and HydraCirc almost totally dampen the whistle, my Fanatic Custom Swagger also dampens it but less so, but my Mobius Ion Matrix with its greater airflow and the EVO inverted produces a very loud whistle (which I stay just under, which again feels optimum despite the difference). How full and dense the ELB load is and whether the ELB is fresh vs clogged, have also sometimes had a small but noticeable effect.
Some dampen the whistle by throttling the intake, with a finger or a makeshift baffle from tissue paper or foam. Personally speaking, with practice I can now pretty much anticipate the whistle with whatever I'm using, so slightly adjusting my draw technique is becoming intuitive. SM told us that "if you are inhaling below or above that speed (where the whistle is loudest), it tends to just go away". That's essentially been my experience, too.
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Seek
Apprentice Daydreamer
I believe its the restrictions what causes the whistling.
If all restrictions are exactly same diameter, there will be one loud whistle at a certain point as all the restriction get to the whistling point at the same time and combine to a loud one.
If there are 2 different diameters then you will hear two quiet whistles at two different speeds. The more variety in the diameter sizes the wider the whistling range will be.
My old Cloud confirmes this theory as the top two holes were 2mm in diameter and the bottom two at 3mm. There were two whistles in that one. Each one made of two whistles combined.
The whistle being loud on mobius also makes sense as the bottom is the only way out for the sound.
With my Cloud I also notices drastic changes to the whistle when I just put my hand near the bottom.
Not touching or restricting the intake in any way. Just the presence of the hand breaks down the concentrated sound coming out.
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
We are saying much the same thing. Changes to the airflow change its turbulence, to which VXL attributes the sound. Two EVO's with exactly the same diameter bamboo should have the same whistle. Ordinarily there is one high-pitch whistle but the pitch and loudness can change with airflow velocity or volume. The key point is that the whistling is in most cases normal, that it can vary e.g. with glass or user technique, and that it is therefore (usually) manageable.
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nugghuffer
vaked
I received my Evo Friday and have been testing it for the past one and a half days. My OG ticker is still going strong too (July 2012).
Initial impressions:
- really love the new enclosure and weight of the Evo
- the shorter, detachable cord is great and it's nice to be able to get different lengths/types if needed
- it does whistle and it's kind of annoying, but not that bad
- I don't necessarily miss the ticking sound, but it's weird not hearing it now
- the top of this unit gets as hot or hotter than my OG Cloud (and I thought my ticker ran on the hotter side)
- 12 on my ticker = 2-3:00 on my Evo. I always started at noon on my Cloud and went to 2-3 to finish the load and ended up with dark brown ABV. I've been finishing every Evo ELB around 4-5:00. I also don't get the burnt popcorn taste with the Evo like I did with the Cloud.
Overall I really like the Evo and all of its improvements, it's just going to take some time for me to get used to it. And to StoneMonkey55 and the entire VXH crew, thanks for the amazing Trade-In deal and for getting these out as fast as you could. Can't wait to see what y'all have in store for us in the future! Now back to testing and watching football...
Initial impressions:
- really love the new enclosure and weight of the Evo
- the shorter, detachable cord is great and it's nice to be able to get different lengths/types if needed
- it does whistle and it's kind of annoying, but not that bad
- I don't necessarily miss the ticking sound, but it's weird not hearing it now
- the top of this unit gets as hot or hotter than my OG Cloud (and I thought my ticker ran on the hotter side)
- 12 on my ticker = 2-3:00 on my Evo. I always started at noon on my Cloud and went to 2-3 to finish the load and ended up with dark brown ABV. I've been finishing every Evo ELB around 4-5:00. I also don't get the burnt popcorn taste with the Evo like I did with the Cloud.
Overall I really like the Evo and all of its improvements, it's just going to take some time for me to get used to it. And to StoneMonkey55 and the entire VXH crew, thanks for the amazing Trade-In deal and for getting these out as fast as you could. Can't wait to see what y'all have in store for us in the future! Now back to testing and watching football...
Luv2Vape
Well-Known Member
My observations are as follows after my first few sessions with the Evo yesterday:
- I was surprised how light the Evo is even after hearing it so many times.
- After filling a few ELBs between 1/3 & 1/2 full (still looking for the sweet spot for fill level), I started at 12 oclock after letting it heat up a good 20 minutes or so & got light flavorful vapor. The vapor was not dense but clearly visible.
- I went to both 2 & 3 oclock on the dial. 3 oclock produced dense clouds & I got higher than I've been in awhile in spite of my high tolerance. ABV was light brown:
- The unit got way too hot on the top for my liking. The wristbands didn't seem to help much. It would really be great if this could be addressed in a future version but it's not a show stopper.
- After a couple of ELBs I was so medicated I had to stop testing. I did another 2 ELBs later on in the night with a different strain & got thick milk at 3 oclock.
- More testing to resume early this evening =D
- I was surprised how light the Evo is even after hearing it so many times.
- After filling a few ELBs between 1/3 & 1/2 full (still looking for the sweet spot for fill level), I started at 12 oclock after letting it heat up a good 20 minutes or so & got light flavorful vapor. The vapor was not dense but clearly visible.
- I went to both 2 & 3 oclock on the dial. 3 oclock produced dense clouds & I got higher than I've been in awhile in spite of my high tolerance. ABV was light brown:
- The unit got way too hot on the top for my liking. The wristbands didn't seem to help much. It would really be great if this could be addressed in a future version but it's not a show stopper.
- After a couple of ELBs I was so medicated I had to stop testing. I did another 2 ELBs later on in the night with a different strain & got thick milk at 3 oclock.
- More testing to resume early this evening =D
Sinclue
OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
Ok, so where I ran my OG ticker and first EVO @ 12 o'clock I find to get the same results I am running my EVO at about 1:30 or 2.
I'm wondering if it is possible to just pull the knob off and press it back on so that instead of 2 the has mark would show 12? I don't see a set screw on the knob, but it doesn't just pull off easily (at least not to my arthritic fingers). Anybody tried repositioning it? I just as soon not paint additional marks or whatever and repositioning the knob seems like an easy "fix" if it can be done.
Anybody tried it...successfully?
I'm wondering if it is possible to just pull the knob off and press it back on so that instead of 2 the has mark would show 12? I don't see a set screw on the knob, but it doesn't just pull off easily (at least not to my arthritic fingers). Anybody tried repositioning it? I just as soon not paint additional marks or whatever and repositioning the knob seems like an easy "fix" if it can be done.
Anybody tried it...successfully?
Madcap79
Jack of all trades, master of none.
I haven't tried but I'd assume that there is a flat on both parts so that the knob will only go on one way. This is just a guess though.
Sinclue
OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
Dr. Plutonious
Well-Known Member
As a long time fan (sorry SM55), had to take some EVO rips in enjoyment of the Hawks going to the Superbowl!
Made sure to grab a couple pics of em.
Made sure to grab a couple pics of em.
If this isn't proof that legalizing doesn't make your football teams better then I don't know what is. CannaBowl 1
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
For loading ELBs I made the EZLoader, the tube with the hose adapter and mouthpiece. Vacuuming meds into the ELB is the way to go for me
I really love my Skilletools HoneyBun, still may favorite all-purpose tool for working with ELBs . . .
way2
Well-Known Member
I use the same set-up as T-dub for loading. Then dump and brush out with these.
http://m.vapornation.com/vapir-cleaning-brush.html
http://m.vapornation.com/vapir-cleaning-brush.html
WaxOnWaxOff
Well-Known Member
This is my preferred cleaning method for elbs. I rarely need to use ISO now
http://thevaporblunt.corecommerce.com/Accessories/Brush.html
http://thevaporblunt.corecommerce.com/Accessories/Brush.html
vapemode
Member
For loading ELBs I made the EZLoader, the tube with the hose adapter and mouthpiece. Vacuuming meds into the ELB is the way to go for me
That looks pretty ideal. I wonder how the scooping action on that would compare with the Skillet Tools Scoop Dogg.
I'm also playing around with the idea of a tall small jar / vial where I could maybe just speed-tap some ground herbs straight in an ELB and go. I'm almost ready for next weekend! (My delivery is scheduled for Thursday.)
The cleaning brushes look useful, though, I hate to rub cheap plastic against screens I'm heating and vaporizing off frequently. (probably a non-issue.) I might prefer to keep a few ELB's in rotation and do a regular iso soak of a bunch. I'll have to see how quickly they gunk up.
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
As a long time fan (sorry SM55), had to take some EVO rips in enjoyment of the Hawks going to the Superbowl!
Made sure to grab a couple pics of em.
Dr. P, what dial setting are you using?
For loading ELBs I made the EZLoader, the tube with the hose adapter and mouthpiece. Vacuuming meds into the ELB is the way to go for me
t-dub, I'm willing to bet that this pic has been posted more than any other on these boards. You are definitely the vape tool go-to guy.
EDIT: I use the "smidge" size spoon from this set (also useful in the kitchen)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MOYI5W
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darkrom
Great Scott!
The evo is really growing on me. No issues since that first time, which I can't really explain. If I want to use the thing I set it to the temp I want and wait 10-15 min for the temps to stabilize. Seems to be working pretty good.
Whistles like a banshee on my mobius clone and my 12 arm tree bubbler. Also on my pinacle hydratube lol.
Not a big deal, just late at night I have to inhale slower hits for fear of waking up other people and being an asshole haha.
Whistles like a banshee on my mobius clone and my 12 arm tree bubbler. Also on my pinacle hydratube lol.
Not a big deal, just late at night I have to inhale slower hits for fear of waking up other people and being an asshole haha.
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
My Ion creates a very high pitched whistle. Fortunately my preferred draw strength is just under that, so I can comfortably avoid it. Good thing, too - the other day the wife stormed in holding our dog, covering her ears (the dog's). Does this mean I can sue VXL for animal abuse?
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