Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO

[Likes2vape]

Thanks for the help Shit Snacks. You say the Log vape prides itself on pure materials, but doesn't the Cloud Evo also? I mean do you think it's more pure or just the same? Is there any reason for me to not go with the Cloud Evo in terms of health or anything else. Basically in terms of health and quality of vapor, do the logs and torch ones have any advantage over the Evo, or is it just different strokes for different folks but the same overall quality and health? I assume the log ones still need coils or electricity to heat the vapor just like the cloud does? At least the cloud is an all glass pathway right? I really know nothing about any of these so I'm just spitballing, putting out what little i know so you can correct it or add to it.

And Torch vapes, do these use butane torches, or what? Fyi I dont need portability, just the healthiest and highest quality vapor. If the odor issue for the cloud is a dead issue and that potential "bamboo" smoke can't make it into the air pathway anyway, then isn't that as clean as it gets? What could be cleaner than an all glass pathway? Or is it possible the glass they get has coating on it or isn't pure quality?

Just tell me what to get man haha. Well, if you could tell me what advantage the logs and flame ones have over the cloud evo in terms of health and vapor quality, or what's different about them other than aesthetics and how you draw, that would definitely help me finalize a decision. And why torch vapes are called torch vapes? I see that the log ones are built in wood like logs, but where does the torch come in for the "torch" vapes?

Get the EVO man!!!

 

[CloudyReality]

If the torch vapes require a torch, wouldn't that mean you have to inhale the lighter or torch fluid a little bit potentially? Even if they block it with a metal chamber that lights up so the herb doesn't contact the flame directly anymore, then couldn't that metal have toxicity? That was the whole reason I avoided the Plenty vaporizer and wanted an all glass pathway to begin with. So it sounds like Evo may be my best bet.

I am intrigued by the HI log vaporizer and the e-nano, though. Does anyone know if they have a glass airway cut off from metal coils or not? Come to think of it, how does the Cloud Evo's herb get heated if the coils are cut off? Do the coils heat the glass and then the herb is in the glass and heats up or how does it work?

Thank you Roth I'm very close to a decision, just want to nail down these last few questions since Shit Snacks peaked my curiosity about the log vapes.

 

[Likes2vape]

The torch vapes use a torch type lighter. They burn really clean but yes the potential exists to either combust the load or inhale butane fumes.

Log vapes are cool and work great. The UD and the HI use a stainless heating element. The air way is stainless and glass. I'm not sure about air path on the enano. The enano is the only one of the log vapes you can adjust the temp with out any additional accessories.

The EVO's bamboo is heated with a heating element wrapped around it. The "bamboo" is all glass.

You will not regret buying the EVO it kicks ass!

 

[Roth]

If the torch vapes require a torch, wouldn't that mean you have to inhale the lighter or torch fluid a little bit potentially? Even if they block it with a metal chamber that lights up so the herb doesn't contact the flame directly anymore, then couldn't that metal have toxicity? That was the whole reason I avoided the Plenty vaporizer and wanted an all glass pathway to begin with. So it sounds like Evo may be my best bet.

I am intrigued by the HI log vaporizer and the e-nano, though. Does anyone know if they have a glass airway cut off from metal coils or not? Come to think of it, how does the Cloud Evo's herb get heated if the coils are cut off? Do the coils heat the glass and then the herb is in the glass and heats up or how does it work?

Thank you Roth I'm very close to a decision, just want to nail down these last few questions since Shit Snacks peaked my curiosity about the log vapes.

Can't comment on how the log vapes are constructed, don't have one myself. Regarding the EVO, yes, there is a heater (not a metal coil) wrapped around the outside of the glass air path. It just has enough power that it can heat the glass hot enough to heat the air to the correct temp as it gets drawn through it.

For the torch vapes, I guess that could potentially be a concern, but if the torch is lit, it'd be igniting all the fluid. But a torch style vape is in a completely different class (lower) than the EVO.

 

[Shit Snacks]

If the torch vapes require a torch, wouldn't that mean you have to inhale the lighter or torch fluid a little bit potentially? Even if they block it with a metal chamber that lights up so the herb doesn't contact the flame directly anymore, then couldn't that metal have toxicity? That was the whole reason I avoided the Plenty vaporizer and wanted an all glass pathway to begin with. So it sounds like Evo may be my best bet.

I am intrigued by the HI log vaporizer and the e-nano, though. Does anyone know if they have a glass airway cut off from metal coils or not? Come to think of it, how does the Cloud Evo's herb get heated if the coils are cut off? Do the coils heat the glass and then the herb is in the glass and heats up or how does it work?

Thank you Roth I'm very close to a decision, just want to nail down these last few questions since Shit Snacks peaked my curiosity about the log vapes.

Haha yeah as @Roth said. Evo is all glass, totally pure for sure, its just more expensive and is made by a now big company (was beta tested here extensively).

Most every vape is different, and offers a different experience. I definitely like the Evo more than my Underdog for one thing, haven't gotten my HI yet though. Those logs are each individually handmade by their creators vs a factory like the Evo (E-Nano is kind of factory version of a log vape, creator Andy scaled it up and keeps it uniform, whereas each HI and UD are more unique).

And there are no "coils" a heating element can be anything hot, the idea is to pull hot air over the herbs. Ceramic, steel, and glass are all found as heating elements and should be pure. Evo is kind of like an all glass log, more consistent too and less "fiddly" thanks to the ELB vs using a stem or gong in a log vape. The log vapes are cheaper though.

Torch vapes are torch powered, using a butane flame as the heating element so truly unlimited full analog power. There's been a lot of discussion on safetey etc, but the idea is that all the butane is getting burnt up to create the flame, so none is inhaled in the Daisy. I was skeptical too but trying it the taste is amazing, there's some wood in the vapor path and steel, but mostly glass too. Huge pure convection hits off any amount that are super smooth without water even. Lily is smaller and is better through water with their adapter, or with a longer stem, both fun with hydratubes too.

Lotus and VapMan are different, in that you first use the torch to heat a metal plate, which heats VapMan directly via conduction, or then you pull the heat from the plate through the load for convection with the Lotus. Both work dry and can be hooked up to water, very easily in the Lotus' case actually.

If money is no option and you want simple with essentially zero technique involved by all means get the Evo. If you are more cost conscious and want a (initially at least) more technique driven, manual experience go for a torch vape, log would probably be your in between option. Back ups are nice too...

Really if money is no option at all, I'd say get the Evo for reliable full power minimal effort, and the Daisy for semi-portable round the house, and fun expirmentation, very rewarding.

 

[bigtvapes]

I tried cheap vapes and they almost screwed me out of enjoying vaping. The first one i tried that I really loved was my Arizer Solo. What a great little unit! Still kicking too. I've seen it as low as $120 on regular sites. I wonder if you did your homework if you could go cheaper. But yea for that price I feel like you're getting an easy to learn, easy to use, and easy to clean device that WILL work. Very versatile too.

The vapor output on this thing is obviously greater, but even after daily use of my Evo for months I still use the Solo and now the Air for out and about and I've never regretted those purchases. I regretted my torch vapes. I regretted the cheapo portables i tried before the solo.

 

[stickstones]

VAPEXHALE'S "GIVE THANKS" BUNDLE
http://www.vapexhale.com/collections/vaporizers/products/give-thanks-bundle

I just checked and my code gets an extra 10% off this as well...I guess it works on anything on the site!

 

[Likes2vape]

I just checked and my code gets an extra 10% off this as well...I guess it works on anything on the site!

Thanks for the code. It covered shipping and tax when I ordered.

 

[Shit Snacks]

So Jeff wrote me back they're in the process of locating the HydraTree I sent back before, to get it sent back to me. Then when it arrives I could send back this slightly worse one.

Still curious about the HydraCirc though, so asked if its possible to try it too. Also bc then I'm still stuck with an imperfect HydraTree and no compensation really...

 

[lazylightning]

Back in April I decided to sell my EVO. I also have an Herbalizer, MiniVAP, Arizer Air and Solo and it felt like those 4 vapes should be plenty.

Not long after I sold it, I started missing the flavor and heavy hits of the EVO through the side-circ hydratube. After missing my EVO for 8 months, today's veteran's day sale convinced me to invest in another one.

I bought 2 extra packs of ELBs and used @stickstones promo code for an additional 10% off. After shipping, my total was just $420 and change. That's $150 less than I paid for the same thing last year and this time it includes a 5 pack of glass nails. Great deal on one of the best vapes out there!

 

[Roth]

I see the Boro VXNails 5-packs are back in stock, and it appears their normal price is now set at $49.99. That's great, I thought they were always overpriced. Curious to see where the Quartz 5-pack price ends up when they're back in stock.

 

[CloudyReality]

Okay guys I am getting the Evo! I really appreciate all the help getting to the decision. Last favor to ask, if anyone could please let me know what I should get specifically. It looks like the $399 with Stickstones code is definitely the best deal with the Sidecirc or Sidetree hydra tube. I've read elsewhere though that the "turbine" hydra tube gives the best flavor or something for some reason? Am I missing out getting the sidecirc or sidetree rather than that?

Not that it matters because I can't find the turbine available anyway and this deal is too good to pass up.

Sidecirc or Sidetree?

Also what do I need for concentrates and prep? I don't have a grinder. I think I just need a grinder and the concentrate add on, not sure where it's cheapest.

 

[Socks And Sandals]

Oh yeah! I've heard of the corn syrup thing before, actually. But I try to stay away from refined/processed sugar these days, which unfortunately includes corn syrup as well . CU = cooling unit, basically the big block of plastic that twists on or off the Mighty. The vapor condenses/collects there, just like it does on the bottom of a HT, which means there are goodies to be extracted via ISO after a while . I don't use any salt, just clean my HT frequently enough that the extra scrubbing salt provides isn't necessary. I wash my HT every night and just let it dry while I'm asleep . (Usually, anyway, sometimes I forget /cough) This tutorial on using an ISO wash to clean a grinder and how to extract the reclaim explains the process pretty much perfectly, just instead of using it on a grinder imagine using it on your HT!

Is it bad to remove the ELB mid-session? I have no idea D: So far it hasn't done any damage I don't think, and yeah like I said it can definitely provide some extra hits since it breaks down the material further! I also use a SCS (love it as well!) and while I do have a MFLB Finishing Grinder I find I don't need to use it for my material to be used efficiently and completely by the EVO, which is nice . Saves me an extra step in the grinding process!

Haha, of course you forget to wash your hydra tube every night! I used to do it before bed but now I just rinse it and leave it for the morning! I found that overnight isn't going leave any waterspots with the distilled water I use. Thanks for the link as well, I'll take a look at it because it seems I would get more reclaim from my grinder since I also clean my Honeycomb every night.

As far as removing the ELB mid session goes I was just asking because I do remove it after ever hit. I need to take a breather between hits sometimes lol! My kief is really building up on the bottom of my SCS, It's getting to the point where I think it's time for a test drive soon! Grinding upside down is the best with these things.

Oh and I finally did get around to trying to Vape the ABV from my Plenty in my EVO and vice versa. The results were based on ABV that was ran through the max temperatures of the EVO and Plenty. The end result was that I wasn't able to get any vapor at all out of the EVO ABV using my Plenty and I wasn't able to get any vapor out of my Plenty ABV using the EVO either. So in conclusion, despite the slightly lighter color of the ABV in the Plenty and the slightly darker ABV in the EVO.. both of these vapes seem to extract everything from our herb. Whether or not this really means less potent ABV brownies when I get to it remains to be seen I guess, but hey at least I know my herb is fully spent in either of these vapes!

 

[YungLeaner]

Log Vapes are great and were my gateway drug to an Evo which changed my life.

Smoking cloud Evo / puffing cloud Evo / rhymes be climbing higher when I'm rolling up that Steve-O/ OG purp look, Ali floats, right hook /all this vapor got me shook, coming at Christ ripping pages out the good book

 

[Likes2vape]

Okay guys I am getting the Evo! I really appreciate all the help getting to the decision. Last favor to ask, if anyone could please let me know what I should get specifically. It looks like the $399 with Stickstones code is definitely the best deal with the Sidecirc or Sidetree hydra tube. I've read elsewhere though that the "turbine" hydra tube gives the best flavor or something for some reason? Am I missing out getting the sidecirc or sidetree rather than that?

Not that it matters because I can't find the turbine available anyway and this deal is too good to pass up.

Sidecirc or Sidetree?

Also what do I need for concentrates and prep? I don't have a grinder. I think I just need a grinder and the concentrate add on, not sure where it's cheapest.

I love the hydratree so I'd go for the sidetree but I'm sure you'll be happy with either one. It comes with a 5 pack of boro nails, that's all you'll need to use concentrates with the sidetree. Get a grinder for sure.

 

[gaseous_clay]

VXL has the Evolver Hydracirc back "From the Vault."

How does it compare to the Hydratree?

 

[Socks And Sandals]

Okay guys I am getting the Evo! I really appreciate all the help getting to the decision. Last favor to ask, if anyone could please let me know what I should get specifically. It looks like the $399 with Stickstones code is definitely the best deal with the Sidecirc or Sidetree hydra tube. I've read elsewhere though that the "turbine" hydra tube gives the best flavor or something for some reason? Am I missing out getting the sidecirc or sidetree rather than that?

Not that it matters because I can't find the turbine available anyway and this deal is too good to pass up.

Sidecirc or Sidetree?

Also what do I need for concentrates and prep? I don't have a grinder. I think I just need a grinder and the concentrate add on, not sure where it's cheapest.

I just got my Evo last week. Trust me, you're going to love this vape. I'm also curious to hear what others have to say about the Sidecirc or Sidetree since I told my sister about the sale and she is waiting to hear back from me! Although I've always had flower bongs growing up, I'm basically new to glass, all this talk of sidecar this, perc that, is all new to me and I'm still learning! Whatever you decide on you can't go wrong I'm sure, Just make sure you inspect your hydratube within 24 hours and be sure your perc works. I just noticed half of my Honeycomb isn't producing bubbles unless I rip it so hard the water comes through the mouthpiece. It doesn't affect it at all imo as I still get really good diffusion, but just a word of advice.. make sure you inspect your hydratube first and foremost!

You're getting 5 VXN's (glass) in that package. You already have everything you need to use concentrates minus the concentrates themselves and maybe a dab tool and silicone storage container! For a grinder you have a lot of choices, and you can check out the grinder thread here http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/herb-grinders.15/page-248#post-877969 I got a SCS but you may like a SC. Lots of info in that thread and it's very active! Trust me you're set! Let us know how it all goes!

Back in April I decided to sell my EVO. I also have an Herbalizer, MiniVAP, Arizer Air and Solo and it felt like those 4 vapes should be plenty.

Not long after I sold it, I started missing the flavor and heavy hits of the EVO through the side-circ hydratube. After missing my EVO for 8 months, today's veteran's day sale convinced me to invest in another one.

I bought 2 extra packs of ELBs and used @stickstones promo code for an additional 10% off. After shipping, my total was just $420 and change. That's $150 less than I paid for the same thing last year and this time it includes a 5 pack of glass nails. Great deal on one of the best vapes out there!

I think this pretty much sums things up!

And with the quality and intensity of the vapor of the EVO, we don't blame ya one bit!

I see the Boro VXNails 5-packs are back in stock, and it appears their normal price is now set at $49.99. That's great, I thought they were always overpriced. Curious to see where the Quartz 5-pack price ends up when they're back in stock.

You have no idea how pleased I am to see them at that price now.. What was it before again? And what were the Quartz? Curious to see if the Quartz drop as well when they are back in stock! Still I'm gravitating towards the quartz if they can keep the price reasonable. Also when vaping with the Quartz, do you use a different temp than glass or does that pretty much stay the same? Thanks!

 

[Seek]

I've read elsewhere though that the "turbine" hydra tube gives the best flavor or something for some reason? Am I missing out getting the sidecirc or sidetree rather than that?

Turbine is mostly for visual show as it does some coll water spinning when you pull hard on it. Diffusion makes vapor smoother but also takes out a little flavour. The turbine does mostly that water spinning visual and little diffusion before that. If you want as much flavor from more diffusing hydratubes you can just put less water there. If you use a dry hydratube you get most of the flavour but no diffusion.
Circ has good and smooth diffusion, little drag and softly purrs when you hit it. Tree has slightly less diffusion, sligthy more drag and makes a sharper purring sound when you hit it.

The circ has better diffusion than tree when you hit is slow/moderately.
Its vertical slits all fire rapidly, whebn you pull slow, they fire tiny bubbles and harder you pull the bigger the bubbles get.

And the tree gets more diffusion than circ when you pull hard.
The tree only makes large bubbles of the same size, when you pull slowly it makes them at low frequency and as you pull harder more slits start firing frequently and even harder get the botom row to fire.

 

[Roth]

You have no idea how pleased I am to see them at that price now.. What was it before again? And what were the Quartz? Curious to see if the Quartz drop as well when they are back in stock! Still I'm gravitating towards the quartz if they can keep the price reasonable. Also when vaping with the Quartz, do you use a different temp than glass or does that pretty much stay the same? Thanks!

I know the Quartz nails were priced at $100 for 2, with no option to buy a single one. I think you could buy a single in the beginning, but that option disappeared. I want to say the Boro nails were 2 for $50 prior to the sale. Could be off on that, you know hazy memories can be Someone will correct me if I'm wrong. 99% sure on the Quartz price though, I looked at that one long enough to bemoan the $50/nail price and never buy one.

 

[Shit Snacks]

So Jeff wrote me back they're in the process of locating the HydraTree I sent back before, to get it sent back to me. Then when it arrives I could send back this slightly worse one.

Still curious about the HydraCirc though, so asked if its possible to try it too. Also bc then I'm still stuck with an imperfect HydraTree and no compensation really...

Looks like my original HydraTree is on its way back today (signature required again this time annoyingly though...) and then I'm supposed to send back the replacement once it arrives.

Jeff said theyre ready losing too much money shipping back and forth, and can't send the HydraCirc for me to try unfortunately... Im still pretty disappointed though bc even though the first tube functioned well its still flawed as we all agreed here, yet I paid just as much as the other tubes... Not really fair imo, regardless how much on shipping they spent

I do like the tree perc, its a good balance, but am still so curious about the circ, feel like tree vs circ is a common tough decision here...

 

[mixchu69]

Has anyone tried the grav lab hydratubes?

 

[HellsWindStaff]

Looks like my original HydraTree is on its way back today (signature required again this time annoyingly though...) and then I'm supposed to send back the replacement once it arrives.

Jeff said theyre ready losing too much money shipping back and forth, and can't send the HydraCirc for me to try unfortunately... Im still pretty disappointed though bc even though the first tube functioned well its still flawed as we all agreed here, yet I paid just as much as the other tubes... Not really fair imo, regardless how much on shipping they spent

I do like the tree perc, its a good balance, but am still so curious about the circ, feel like tree vs circ is a common tough decision here...

TBH, if you are only able to choose between your first screwed up Hydratree or your second worse screwed up Hydratree, I do agree that is not really fair. Do they not have a flawless one to send you lol? I'd be pretty miffed if that was the case

 

[SamuraiSam]

I know the Quartz nails were priced at $100 for 2, with no option to buy a single one. I think you could buy a single in the beginning, but that option disappeared. I want to say the Boro nails were 2 for $50 prior to the sale. Could be off on that, you know hazy memories can be Someone will correct me if I'm wrong. 99% sure on the Quartz price though, I looked at that one long enough to bemoan the $50/nail price and never buy one.

That's correct. They were $100 for a pair of laboratory-lookin' test tubes; perfectly formed with hardly any gap against the EVO's bamboo, as well as a round bottom for your oils to sit in. These were a much different product than the current Quartz nails which can only be identified as different from the loose-fitting Borosilicate glass nails by a different angled oil/air inlet slit.

 

[Roth]

That's correct. They were $100 for a pair of laboratory-lookin' test tubes; perfectly formed with hardly any gap against the EVO's bamboo, as well as a round bottom for your oils to sit in. These were a much different product than the current Quartz nails which can only be identified as different from the loose-fitting Borosilicate glass nails by a different angled oil/air inlet slit.

Hmm, will be interesting to see how mine are. I ordered a 5 pack of the Quartz during the sale, but due to a shipping mix up, mine got sent in the wrong order. They're out of stock now and will have mine shipped to me when the new shipment arrives at VXL.

 

[Shit Snacks]

TBH, if you are only able to choose between your first screwed up Hydratree or your second worse screwed up Hydratree, I do agree that is not really fair. Do they not have a flawless one to send you lol? I'd be pretty miffed if that was the case

Yeah man,

I get their shipping cost excuse, but kinda ridiculous no? It's not like they had a disclaimer that it was bottom of the barrel HydraTrees, and for the price, not fair at all imo...

Thinking of asking for a free dry mouthpiece so I can have a back up? Or keeping both flawed tubes but i doubt they'd allow that... Seems like I won't get to try the HydraCirc at all, but I do like the tree i think, its versatile.