Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO

[Dr. Plutonious]

I too have wondered if some type of glass ELB is possible.

Or an ELB that can hold more and still vape evenly.

 

[t-dub]

There have been good attempts by the beta team to realize a glass ELB utilizing fritted discs etc to no avail so far.

 

[Dr. Plutonious]

Ahh too bad. I don't care THAT much but, someday, it be awesome.

Larger ELBs would be awesome though. If Vapexhale figures out how to get those to work as well as the current ones do.

 

[kimura]

I don't really see any need to change the ELB. I have repeatedly tried to taste the empty ELB using the straight dry mouthpiece and I taste nothing. Tastes the same as hitting the EVO empty with no ELB. I don't really see the need for a larger ELB either. Half full of finely ground herb is way more than I can take in a lung full, with devastating effect.

Just make this thing super reliable and call it a day. It already does what it is supposed to do amazingly well. Just my opinion

 

[VapeNStone]

It's been awhile since I made an EVO vid so I broke out my OG DG and put it to work!

 

[oldiebutgoodie]

There have been good attempts by the beta team to realize a glass ELB utilizing fritted discs etc to no avail so far.

It might be worth repeating that the design of the ELB is a key factor in the EVO's extraction efficiency. The ELB is much more than a screen - the pressurization and turbulence resulting from its design are what delivers the efficiency. A glass ELB would be terrific, but IMO not at the expense of the primary performance features of the ELB as designed.

 

[IF II INI C IHI]

I've had my Evo for a few weeks now and must say I am very satisfied.I can't believe how great the VapeXNail is with the unit. I was a Torce dabber and WOW, this is much greater and safer. Question, How are you guys cleaning the Bamboo? and what about cleaning the VapexNails other than turning it on all the way high for a few minutes and leaving it in there? I've left it in ISO to no avail, so I was thinking of trying my 420 cleaner.

 

[Dr. Plutonious]

I don't really see any need to change the ELB. I have repeatedly tried to taste the empty ELB using the straight dry mouthpiece and I taste nothing. Tastes the same as hitting the EVO empty with no ELB. I don't really see the need for a larger ELB either. Half full of finely ground herb is way more than I can take in a lung full, with devastating effect.

Just make this thing super reliable and call it a day. It already does what it is supposed to do amazingly well. Just my opinion

I agree, the ELB is a perfect size for an individual. I was thinking for more of a party situation where constantly changing out ELBs can get annoying.

 

[Seek]

With a larger ELB, you would need to stir. Changing them is easier.

I think their size is perfect, large enough to pack a punch, but not too large that would need stirring on large loads and be too messy with small loads.

 

[Schmobs]

I've had my Evo for a few weeks now and must say I am very satisfied.I can't believe how great the VapeXNail is with the unit. I was a Torce dabber and WOW, this is much greater and safer. Question, How are you guys cleaning the Bamboo? and what about cleaning the VapexNails other than turning it on all the way high for a few minutes and leaving it in there? I've left it in ISO to no avail, so I was thinking of trying my 420 cleaner.

(The following as been already published in the "Yammer VXH Beta Team Group").

THE CLEANING OF THE BAMBOO:

While dabbing with the VXN is a lot of fun, I realized that the bamboo and the VXN are getting dirty and caked very fast. In fact I never had to clean the bamboo before dabbing!

So I had to find a quick and efficient way to clean that bamboo, so here’s what I found:

In the bottom hole of the bamboo, insert a little piece of round wood lightly jammed with a piece of plastic bag (I’m still looking for a Silicone cap or something similar that will fit better than the above). On the top part of the bamboo, cut a square piece from an old tire tube and then punch a little hole in the middle of it, so it can be stretched over the male joint of the top bamboo to make a tight water seal around the male GoG joint, then place a rubber band around the EVO and the rubber skirt to keep everything tight against the top EVO body.

Now you got a “water splash-proof” EVO, ready to be cleaned!

Next pour 12ml of your favorite cleaner (12ml is about the volume that the bamboo can hold) in this case I use “Purple Power” (http://www.purplepower.com/) which I found very efficient for easy removing caked stuff in the now “water splash free sealed bamboo” then I let it soak over the sink drain so if the seal is not perfectly set in the bottom part of the bamboo, it won’t make a mess, allowing you to reseat the seal if needed (again, finding a proper silicone cap will solve that). When the soaking is done, remove the bottom plug and give it a good rince (with very slow running water, due to restriction at the bottom of the bamboo). I uses for that a piece of silicon tube (the one that it’s used as a whip for the SSV) it fit perfectly tight in the male joint GoG of the bamboo for the rinsing part. Of course I hold the other side of the whip over the water tap.

As for the caked VXN, soaking in “Purple Power” (http://www.purplepower.com/) will restore the VXN to it's new state whit-out any heavy scrubbing.

Maybe only need a little bushy soft brush the length of the bamboo or the nail to lightly dislodge the goo.


WHAT YOU NEED:

1- Something to clog the bottom part of the bamboo or better a silicone cap (easy to stretch over the bottom part of the bamboo to seal-it). Since that bottom part is actually “taper” it will be easy to set and will stay firmly in place.

1- Piece of thin rubber tire, (maybe 6” x 6”?) with a little hole punched in the center so it’ll be able to be stretched tight around the male joint of the bamboo. Protecting the air vents and making-it water splash free.

1- Rubber band to keep the “rubber skirt” tight agains the side of the EVO.

1- silicone tube 7 or 8 inches long or more, the diameter size of the SSV whip. (I don’t have the size as I’m writing this)

1- Adapter of sort for the whip to water tap seal (optional), your hand can do it.

1- 12ml cup with a spout for easy pouring of your favorite cleaner (12ml is about the volume that the bamboo can hold).

1- A little bushy soft brush the length of the bamboo to dislodge the goo.


Have an even greater cloudy day everyone!
s.

 

[Ripstar]

^^ is the above how everyone cleans it? I haven't noticed my bamboo getting dirty but it is inevitable.
I have to buy another nail for friends to use, it takes a while for that bad boy to cool down.

 

[t-dub]

Someone suggested using water balloons on the bottom and top of EVO while cleaning the bamboo and I will try that next, looks great. Right now I just use a plastic funnel and ISO to repeatedly flush/rinse the bamboo. I put EVO on top of a graduated cylinder to catch the ISO as it comes out of the bottom and then just pour it back through. I have managed to get some ISO down past the crumb shield a couple times, no ill effect so far, just seems to get trapped in the insulation and evaporates.

Cleaning the nails beyond burn off is a challenge. I'm using the ultrasonic . . .

Edit: Here is Fame's post on cleaning the VapeXnail:

I hope this can help you and others avoid breaking your VXNails like it has for me! I broke my first prototype VXNail doing just what you did, scraping my nail clean with a hard metal tool (a sharpened paper clip!). Like you, I did not want this to happen again, and so I have devised the following cleaning process for my VXNails. I only have to do this once a week, just 2 nails at a time (I have four total in rotation).

After the initial soak, the entire process takes no more than 15 minutes for the 2 VXNails. Not only has this method prevented any more breakages, it has also done away with that awful chemical smell (not to mention DISCOLORATION of the bamboo) that comes from burning the VXNail clean of large amounts of leftover residue (note my 'secret weapon' at the end):

Special note: Make sure the wax residue is hot when you soak it up with the q-tip, I wait 10-20 seconds after pulling the nail from the bamboo, otherwise the cotton fibers will stick to the inside of the VXNail, creating a real mess, on the other hand... it'll burn if you stick it in too quickly: TWSS!

A link to the q-tips I buy (I get 'double-sided regular'), cheaper ones are available if you look: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008CPU4EC/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

On average I use about 3 of these a week, so for $15 I have 2 years worth. I'm happy.

A final word to the wise: Steel wool drops little steel shavings everywhere, and then rusts if it gets wet. If you, like me, prefer to do your VXNail cleaning in the sink, be careful about where you are dropping your metal shavings. I've ruined a sink mat, a dish tub, and my dog's metal water bowl, all by not being careful from the outset as to where I was traveling while I had metal shavings on my hands. It's easy to avoid once you're aware of it, though.

Lastly, I've found that a steel wool 'snake' maintains its effectiveness for 2 nails, after which it becomes 'gunked up' and loses its abrasive quality. Also, when twisting the steel wool into the nail, you will need to apply some pressure to get the stubborn stuff at the bottom. Be careful not to squeeze the nail too hard with your other hand (a natural reflex) when doing this. You don't want to snap a glass nail in your hands, it could do serious damage (yet another reason I wear protective gloves - improved grip, protection from steel wool and possibly broken glass, & protection from harsh chemicals).

 

[Ripstar]

You answered my next question! The nail seems almost impossible to clean. I am assuming taking a torch to it is a horrible idea.

 

[t-dub]

Right now I'm just burning mine off and seeing how long I can go with the upper accumulation over time. Its interesting because it seems to be self limiting to a certain degree.

 

[Ripstar]

I noticed it got to one point and kinda stopped. But that made me wonder if it was leaking on the bamboo.

 

[Deadshort480]

I've used a small stainless steel brush to scrub the top clean. It does cloud the glass slightly after a few times.

 

[Hexi]

Haven't cleaned my bamboo ever, and I look at it every time I use it to scan for smuge.

It's only been a month or so since VXN launched so maybe I will need to clean it but so far it looks like everything just burns off, and I had a really smeared up VXN once that had gunk on the outside too.

Or it could be the gnomes clean it while I'm sleeping.

 

[Fame Is A Vapor]

You answered my next question! The nail seems almost impossible to clean. I am assuming taking a torch to it is a horrible idea.

I recently shared my cleaning methods for the VapeXNails here:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vapexhale-cloud-evo.11357/page-189#post-609334

This method keeps my bamboo perfectly clean because I'm no longer combusting large amounts of leftover reside to clean the nail (only a tiny bit of residue left at the end of the cleaning process).

In fact, this method has kept my nails "SPARKLING" clean.

Because of the intermediate cleaning I do with the extra-long q-tips, I only have to do a 'real' cleaning once a week. I also found recently that a 6-hour soak in Purple Power is just as good as 12 or 24. I'll be dropping down to 2 hours next week and will report back the results. (It's not that the PurplePower is necessary, but it seems to REALLY cut down on the time and effort I have to put into twisting/pulling/pushing the steel wool inside the nail; 30secs vs. 3mins)

So now the only part of my bamboo that needs cleaning is the GonG, and IMO that's probably more from ELB use than VXN use. I do this by using an alcohol prep swab (super-affordable, handy, and available at Walgreen's, etc.) to moisten a regular q-tip, then I use that to clean the COOLED (maybe warm, but not hot and not cold) GonG/bamboo. If you listen carefully, the q-tip will tell you just how cool the bamboo is by hissing or not. This is why I use the q-tip and not the actual prep pad; the prep pad could actually ignite and there's no grabbing it to pull it back out once that's happened! Trust me. I did it once! I learned very quickly not to do that again ...

So listen, I'm doing you a favor here. A solid. Just by telling you now: invest in the long q-tips (and of course own at least 2 nails, especially if you have more than one flavor of concentrate!) And as long as you have quality concentrates, you'll be very happy indeed. Yes. Indeed. Stu Hempseed Rides!

Edit: @t-dub beat me to it with an Edit:

 

[Hioctane]

Here is my #EvoReview....SM.
I have come across some of the best tasting Meds this past year. I thought they tasted well combusted, well the first 2-3 hits anyway. But I learned about vaporization one night and have been hooked ever since. On the continuous search for the best product out there and after buying many different devices l stumbled across Vapexhale and watched some vids and decided that this was it! Owning a cloud and an EVO, this is the best! With every pull, full flavor is extracted and if you've ever smelled some Herb you've wanted to just eat because it smelled sooo good...this is basically the next best way to taste it. Not to mention, you'll save $$ because this thing actually conserves Meds! Except for the fact it's so badass you will WANT to smoke more! But for real it takes about 1/4 the amount to get "in the clouds" Let some of the most experienced smokers try the EVO for the first time and I guarantee it will lay them out! The effects from this unit are like no other method of ingestion. Keep the new products rolling...VXH for life.

Edit: not to mention this company actually does care about their customers. If you have a problem or an issue, the support team will work with you.

 

[Enchantre]

I just got a box of 6" long cotton swabs for cleaning the EVO!

I was able to swab it clean, with 99% ISO, using 6 of the swabs, one after the other. Even from the bottom of the bamboo, there was a bit of residue at the constriction. The swabs are great!
The thickest buildup was right at the base of the bamboo joint. ISO took it right off.

 

[Deadhead101]

I use iso and a syringe (amazon) to clean. Simply use my index finger to cap the bottom bamboo, fill up bamboo with iso until midway up the gong, put finger on top, turn upside down, back right side up, dump out iso out of the top (that's just how I do it). I'm always really careful about not spilling any iso into the unit.

I then use q tips to touch up the inside and outside of the gong.

 

[this_multiverse]

my $20 off coupon I got with my evo doesn't work at checkout

maybe get these nails later this week then, can't wait

 

[Hexi]

VXN casualty, dropped one on the hard floor from eye level. bye bye lil soldier, you burned ever so bright.

Modnote for obligatory

 

[TheRamblingSoul]

Here it is, my #EVOreview
@stonemonkey55

Note: I really shouldn't rehearse so much...

Thanks for the VXNail review!

Where'd you get the wooden stand for the XVNails and etc? Did you buy it or make it yourself?

 

[t-dub]

VXN casualty, dropped one on the hard floor from eye level. bye bye lil soldier, you burned ever so bright. Modnote for obligatory

I feel your pain brah . . .