TS-VaporCANE fire eyes

[XpeeN]

as far as i know, its titanium that cant glow dry not SS
i have 2 vaporcane im still alive, it must glow to perfrom well imho.
I like wattage mode over tc (47w)

From some reading I did back then, I deducted that heating up SS316L above 500-550C is not worth it health-wise, as there are no conclusive evidence that it is safe. We know that there's oxidization process going on there and that some mechanical properties gets lost, but most researches talk about hours of continuous work, and I'm not even sure it's relevant to us as it's not my field, so I can't comment much about it.
I just don't think it's worth taking a risk while there are safer alternatives that perform as good, for example, my glow has dual 20GA SS316L coils in it that are limited to faint glow on max temp, I'm staying below that max temp and get great results without making the coils glow at all. Also I'm waiting for a different type of SS316L wire that I think will perform even better without glowing, but I'll talk about it at the glow's thread when it's relevant. Another great example is the splinter z. So yeah, why even risk it?

 

[VerteKzX]

From some reading I did back then, I deducted that heating up SS316L above 500-550C is not worth it health-wise, as there are no conclusive evidence that it is safe. We know that there's oxidization process going on there and that some mechanical properties gets lost, but most researches talk about hours of continuous work, and I'm not even sure it's relevant to us as it's not my field, so I can't comment much about it.
I just don't think it's worth taking a risk while there are safer alternatives that perform as good, for example, my glow has dual 20GA SS316L coils in it that are limited to faint glow on max temp, I'm staying below that max temp and get great results without making the coils glow at all. Also I'm waiting for a different type of SS316L wire that I think will perform even better without glowing, but I'll talk about it at the glow's thread when it's relevant. Another great example is the splinter z. So yeah, why even risk it?

idk, lot of vaporizers has glowing ss coil, anyway i can say the vaporcane perfrom better than a glow.. the coil is so powerful and the heat is more uniform imo.

 

[XpeeN]

idk, lot of vaporizers has glowing ss coil

What are those? and how do you know they're glowing?
Most non 510 vaporizers that I know of are using kanthal or nichrome (kanthal is more popular), which the consensus says that there are no problem for them to glow (although, again, glow red and not white obviously).

anyway i can say the vaporcane perfrom better than a glow.. the coil is so powerful and the heat is more uniform imo.

It depends on the coils installed obviously, have you tried a coil setup like mine (5 wraps each coil, 0.89 cold)?
Can you get that coil to perform well without glowing?

 

[Fesob_31]

there's nothing about this in the voopoo documentation, the available ranges are 1000 to 1600, what does that mean?

There's a formula to figure it out, I think this is the right one: y = 1.06145x * 106 + 136

https://imgur.com/a/punZw

 

[Tswoodenart]

Tue makes wonderful things, the wood is really superb, the finish is really amazing, it's really a great job and good price ($110 USD)!

I received mine today (7 days to delivery Vietnam->France) and I already love it, at high power/temperature, I find it very similar to Tinymight, fast, on-demand heating, adaptable to any mod (wattage or TC)

The mouthpiece works really well and I think it's nice, look at the finish, it's incredible:

https://imgur.com/a/VdYX41G

I started by using the wattage mode at 30W (the manufacturer recommends 25-28W), then I tried the TC mode with my Voopoo Drag X Plus Pro set at SS316 190°C and it works well!

Here's a quick comparison with an RBT Splinter Z:

https://imgur.com/0lteopi

The VaporCANE is much smaller than I thought, and that's a good thing, I love it! I love the idea of the integrated chamber instead of the chamber in the mouthpiece, it's great for watching and stirring quietly.

I discovered the DNA chipset recently (I'm new to rebuildable) and I bought a Hyperion DNA 100C but haven't yet found the right settings, in SS316 mode at 30W and 230°C, the coil heats up, but not enough for my taste (but it doesn't glow, unlike to my voopoo), if anyone has any recommendations on this subject, I set the TCR to 0.00224 via Escribe (manufacturer's recommendation), but even with higher wattages or temperatures, the coil never glows, how come? it does not display any errors, Why does it glow on Voopoo and not on Hyperion DNA? not that I'm trying to make it glowing, but the temperature is too low to obtain a good extraction worthy of the name, it doesn't work like on my Voopoo with TC mode. I must have missed something.

Tue also agreed to make custom sleeves for my prototypes, it's really nice of him, the work is as usual fabulous and corresponds perfectly to my drawing, this manufacturer has enormous know-how and incredible potential

https://imgur.com/bACpjJP

If you're a 510 mod enthusiast, I highly recommend the VaporCANE

Hi bro.
Please set the TCR value to .00220 via Escribe, Set the power to 30W and adjust the temperature accordingly between 400f-450f( keep the coil from being too glows ) set the preheat at 75W and 600f, It only takes about 2 seconds for the coil to glows and the temperature control is extremely stable.
Good luck!

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

Hello everyone Has anyone tried the "Tswooden Vaporcane mini"? It is claimed that it contains a coil of kanathal !

Also, guys, please give me the internal dimensions of the camera (width and depth) - I want to understand if I can use the device with capsules?

 

[kokolokokolokon]

Also, guys, please give me the internal dimensions of the camera (width and depth) - I want to understand if I can use the device with capsules?

I should take a look at the size. But i didnt find any capsule to use it, but i want to try to use a fury2 capsule on the stem (removing the stem screen) to ise it as stem-chamber and reduce the amount of material

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

I should take a look at the size. But i didnt find any capsule to use it, but i want to try to use a fury2 capsule on the stem (removing the stem screen) to ise it as stem-chamber and reduce the amount of material

Measure the inner diameter with a caliper and the depth, and I'll tell you which capsules will fit into it. Here are the capsules with increasing size: Fury, Max V3 pro, TM2, Dreamwood

 

[kokolokokolokon]

Measure the inner diameter with a caliper and the depth, and I'll tell you which capsules will fit into it. Here are the capsules with increasing size: Fury, Max V3 pro, TM2, Dreamwood

I asked to ts-woodenart. i will tell you when i know the size.
The v3 pro caps are small, the fury capsules are almost the same, i have to try the dreamwood capsules (and they have a similar size to the tm capsules). The hex capsules are too tall but not wide enough

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

The dreamwood capsule is LARGER in diameter than the Tm2 capsule. It is larger due to the lid, which does not fit into the stem of the tm2. I'm so sorry that I sold the Dreamwood capsules, I had 5 of them. And today I bought a tsvaporcan and thought it was possible that these capsules would fit!

 

[CanikUser19]

Hello everyone Has anyone tried the "Tswooden Vaporcane mini"? It is claimed that it contains a coil of kanathal !

Also, guys, please give me the internal dimensions of the camera (width and depth) - I want to understand if I can use the device with capsules?

The mini does come with kanthal coils. Kanthal coils are easily replaced with coils of your choosing though.

 

[coolbreeze]

Hello everyone Has anyone tried the "Tswooden Vaporcane mini"? It is claimed that it contains a coil of kanathal !

It's really nice. I haven't used it a lot but it's fairly easy and does a nice, even roast.

Also, guys, please give me the internal dimensions of the camera (width and depth) - I want to understand if I can use the device with capsules?

I can't really measure it well but the herb chamber IS a capsule, and the screened top piece is the lid.

I don't think the capsule's removable. Maybe there's another capsule that will fit inside it? In any case the herbs drop right out when it's spent. The bowl sorta looks almost pristine after a dozen or so uses.

 

[CanikUser19]

It's really nice. I haven't used it a lot but it's fairly easy and does a nice, even roast.

I can't really measure it well but the herb chamber IS a capsule, and the screened top piece is the lid.

I don't think the capsule's removable. Maybe there's another capsule that will fit inside it? In any case the herbs drop right out when it's spent. The bowl sorta looks almost pristine after a dozen or so uses.

I really need to commit to using all of my 510 vapes more once the weather allows for patio vaping. Really love the form factor.

 

[coolbreeze]

I really need to commit to using all of my 510 vapes more once the weather allows for patio vaping. Really love the form factor.

Yeah, I just started with them recently so I'm a bit clueless re: mods but these that work well unregulated are wonderful. Great vapor, easy to use, a nice little mix of art, tech, & technique. This one's gorgeous and it works really well.

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

I asked to ts-woodenart. i will tell you when i know the size.
The v3 pro caps are small, the fury capsules are almost the same, i have to try the dreamwood capsules (and they have a similar size to the tm capsules). The hex capsules are too tall but not wide enough

Can you tell me where you wrote your question? I bought my Tswooden from Wesley yesterday, but I would like to know if there are any spare parts, in particular additional canthal coils, and if they can be purchased separately?

 

[kokolokokolokon]

The dreamwood capsule is LARGER in diameter than the Tm2 capsule. It is larger due to the lid, which does not fit into the stem of the tm2.

Actually i have dreamwood capsules because they fit on the tm stem the part which doesn’t fit is the lid of the cap, but you can use it like that.
I asked him on instagram. Im sure the vape adds an extra coil, as the Ss coil version did.

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I tried a stem-chamber mod removing the stem screen (and the cooling unit) and using a fury2 capsule (without lid) on the stem.
30W, 190C, not glowing.

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

Actually i have dreamwood capsules because they fit on the tm stem the part which doesn’t fit is the lid of the cap, but you can use it like that.
I asked him on instagram. Im sure the vape adds an extra coil, as the Ss coil version did.

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I tried a stem-chamber mod removing the stem screen (and the cooling unit) and using a fury2 capsule (without lid) on the stem.
30W, 190C, not glowing.

It would be great if there was a spare spiral included!

If you have managed to fit the Fury capsule into the stem, then I believe that the TM2 capsule will fit into the chamber. After all, it is 1-2 mm larger than Fury.

 

[kokolokokolokon]

If you have managed to fit the Fury capsule into the stem, then I believe that the TM2 capsule will fit into the chamber. After all, it is 1-2 mm larger than Fury.

It would be great. Anyways i see this mod can give good vapor, flavor, it uses less amounts and you can use it without glowing (it also works great glowing at 210 with huge clouds).

Im sure it will include an extra coil, a brush, and a 510 heat sink

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

It would be great. Anyways i see this mod can give good vapor, flavor, it uses less amounts and you can use it without glowing (it also works great glowing at 210 with huge clouds).

Im sure it will include an extra coil, a brush, and a 510 heat sink

I wrote to the store and they confirmed that the set includes a second spiral made of cantal. You can also buy spirals separately.I'm thinking - should I buy an additional stainless steel spiral, like on the older model, or is a canthal the best solution?

 

[coolbreeze]

I wrote to the store and they confirmed that the set includes a second spiral made of cantal. You can also buy spirals separately.I'm thinking - should I buy an additional stainless steel spiral, like on the older model, or is a canthal the best solution?

Get the steel if you intend to run it with temperature control. If you're going wattage, you want the kanthal.

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

Get the steel if you intend to run it with temperature control. If you're going wattage, you want the kanthal.

Ooo, an extremely valuable comment, thank you! yes, it is important for me that the set temperature of, say, 190 degrees on the spiral is not exceeded. I thought that it was cantal that would more accurately withstand the set temperature than stainless steel, which seemed to me to be more capricious and for some reason many users got red hot. Am I wrong?

 

[coolbreeze]

Ooo, an extremely valuable comment, thank you! yes, it is important for me that the set temperature of, say, 190 degrees on the spiral is not exceeded. I thought that it was cantal that would more accurately withstand the set temperature than stainless steel, which seemed to me to be more capricious and for some reason many users got red hot. Am I wrong?

I'm not sure what exactly are the whatfors but my mods don't see kanthal as an option for TC, so it can't be selected/used for that mode, while SS is standard for it. I also understand kanthal holds up to glowing much better than other metals, hence its use with less precise manual control of the heat. The regular Vaporcane has SS coils for temp contrrol, the minis are manual.

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

I'm not sure what exactly are the whatfors but my mods don't see kanthal as an option for TC, so it can't be selected/used for that mode, while SS is standard for it. I also understand kanthal holds up to glowing much better than other metals, hence its use with less precise manual control of the heat. The regular Vaporcane has SS coils for temp contrrol, the minis are manual.

I'm very upset.. Have you managed to get the cantal to work in the exact temperature mode?

You say that you have an SS spiral in your settings, but I remember the discussion here about what kind of SS steel it is and I remember the problems with the red-hot SS spiral. In general, I'm at a loss. I think maybe I should cancel the order and buy a Tswooden with an SS spiral...

 

[coolbreeze]

I thought that it was cantal that would more accurately withstand the set temperature than stainless steel, which seemed to me to be more capricious and for some reason many users got red hot. Am I wrong?

My understanding is the opposite. SS has a known/stable resistance (I think) which allows the mod to calculate temps well, I'm not sure how or why the Kanthal is less suitable in that regard. But for manual use the Kanthal is much more durable and can withstand the less precise heating and glowing. This is my understanding and I hope someone who knows can explain.

I'm very upset.. Have you managed to get the cantal to work in the exact temperature mode?

No, I haven't. I have always used my mini in manual mode, wattage.

You say that you have an SS spiral in your settings, but I remember the discussion here about what kind of SS steel it is and I remember the problems with the red-hot SS spiral. In general,

My understanding is that SS is less suitable for manual mode where you are likely to have some glowing. Kanthal can handle that.

I'm at a loss. I think maybe I should cancel the order and buy a Tswooden with an SS spiral...

No, if you want a Vaprocane with SS/Temperature control, you'd need the regular one, not the MIni. Maybe the Mini can actually work in TC, but that's not how it's sold--it's meant for manual use.

 

[PossumMD]

You can't use kanthal as it's resistance doesn't change with temperature. The other materials do which allows the mod to know how hot the wire is when power is applied.