Discontinued ThermoVape Revolution for concentrates

[Bob Loblaw]

thanks guys, much appreciated! sorry for the attitude in my post yesterday mates. Nothing but respect for y'all.

'preciated and ditto. fwiw i would use a 510 to 510 extender if you're gonna run it on high. keep a little heat distance, my two cents

 

[ioright]

So I sent an e-mail to the fine folks at Thermovape regarding my broken Revolution. In under 12 hours I got a response that confirmed my request to swap the price of the Revolution for other accessories.

I will soon have another charger, more batteries, and some nifty battery holders in my possession in lieu of the Revolution. Once again, AMAZING customer service. The fine people at Thermovape really stand by their products and will do whatever it takes to please the customer. I shall continue using my T1 happily as my best portable option

 

[YoGranMazPimp]

Went ahead and edited my post cause i still could and figured what that ava res is about. So im about to buy and wondering any benefits to having both smooth flow moisture cnditioner and the pure flow filter? Any benefits to getting a second base unit instead of a conversion kit? And for glass adapters for both ti and rev, ptfe or black delrin?

 

[Darb]

Does the LV Dart produce much better vapor than the origional windowed revolution?
I've been considering trying one out but my revolution has been sitting in a box for months. Seems like my revolution will not produce sufficient vapor to medicate me.

 

[OF]

Does the LV Dart produce much better vapor than the origional windowed revolution?
I've been considering trying one out but my revolution has been sitting in a box for months. Seems like my revolution will not produce sufficient vapor to medicate me.

No. They're basically the same 'under the hood'. Same exact cores, same power, same capacity. IMO plenty for most, but for sure short of 'serious nailhead' levels. I've met guys with oil habits that would lead to carpal tunnel from loading it alone.....

Other machines in the works, say like the THC 8 (which in prototype dispenses most of a gram in a single session on demand), may improve this but I suspect that even then we'll get 'the clouds aren't thick enough form me' posts? There's no 'top end limit', really?

"Speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go?"

OF

 

[jambandphan03]

although, I do believe there could be a few under-performing Revs out there. I have seen several posts where either a Rev got replaced by a new one, or they decided to try the Dart, and the comments included how much better it performed compared to the first Rev. Not saying that all the first run Rev's were bad, mine still works just fine, but there is the possibility that there were some in the mix that just didn't perform up to standards.

 

[OF]

although, I do believe there could be a few under-performing Revs out there. I have seen several posts where either a Rev got replaced by a new one, or they decided to try the Dart, and the comments included how much better it performed compared to the first Rev. Not saying that all the first run Rev's were bad, mine still works just fine, but there is the possibility that there were some in the mix that just didn't perform up to standards.

Entirely possible, mine's one of the very first and has no such issues. I tested several LV versions for them, each step was monotonic (isn't that a great word? It mean 'each step is in order', larger than the last, smaller than the next kinda thing). That is the 1.4 ohm one performed 'better' than 1.5 but was cooler than 1.3 and so on. I forget which one I used into the mud with bubble until it was a real mess, but it came back to normal so I doubt use is a big factor.

And again back to the OP's question, DART and Revolution are the same from ceramic down (I actually had them make the LV DART I tested from one of the prototype Revolutions as they were running out of ceramic plates so they rewound the heater, flamed the plate and replaced the tube. If you buy one or the other today I don't think there's any difference at all, save mechanical?

OF

 

[VaporNinja]

It would be nice if the ceramic part is removable, so one can take it out easily and torch it to clean it, or simply replace it with a new one while the dirty one is being cleaned.

 

[OF]

It would be nice if the ceramic part is removable, so one can take it out easily and torch it to clean it, or simply replace it with a new one while the dirty one is being cleaned.

It'd be nice, but that opens up a whole can of worms. For sure it was considered, it's just not realistic...as was explained to me when I made the same observation.....

They are brittle and very easily damaged as you might expect from a ceramic sponge. And the heater should not be mechanically disturbed once it's 'set' which I'd think is another risk.

And the design would have to radically change unless you ship the vice and lever that disassembles and arbor press and tools that assemble.

But the bottom line is the maker warrants the unit to perform well when dark if their cleaning procedures are followed and that seems to be the case. The time to mess with torching the plate is when you're rebuilding the cart....when it finally stops working well?

OF

 

[t-dub]

although, I do believe there could be a few under-performing Revs out there. I have seen several posts where either a Rev got replaced by a new one, or they decided to try the Dart, and the comments included how much better it performed compared to the first Rev. Not saying that all the first run Rev's were bad, mine still works just fine, but there is the possibility that there were some in the mix that just didn't perform up to standards.

My experience exactly.

 

[t-dub]

DART and Revolution are the same from ceramic down . . . If you buy one or the other today I don't think there's any difference at all, save mechanical?

Now, yes, but my original Rev's ceramic is different from my DART.

 

[OF]

Now, yes, but my original Rev's ceramic is different from my DART.

In a trivial way, true. There is now a more pronounced air gap on one side rather than two smaller ones that tended to flood easier. Same material, same thickness, same function. There's about the same volume (I'm told) of the same material for added capacity in a ring around the heater itself. I guess anything is possible but I sure can't see how that changes anything of importance.

On the point of the OP (I think), there's no practical difference between Revolution and DART, the ones you order today will be identical in the working parts, the difference is in the loading.

Perhaps our Tim has some insights to offer?

OF

 

[t-dub]

In a trivial way, true. There is now a more pronounced air gap on one side rather than two smaller ones that tended to flood easier. Same material, same thickness, same function. There's about the same volume (I'm told) of the same material for added capacity in a ring around the heater itself. I guess anything is possible but I sure can't see how that changes anything of importance.

On the point of the OP (I think), there's no practical difference between Revolution and DART, the ones you order today will be identical in the working parts, the difference is in the loading.

Perhaps our Tim has some insights to offer?

OF

I don't think the differences are "trivial" on the old version, mine sits unused because of those differences . . . just my

 

[Dangus]

Curious if anyone has been using the smooth-flow top on the dart? I got it for the T1, and it's great...I want to try it out on the rev, but nervous it could compromise(or gunk up) the ceramic moisture reservoir. Then again it sound as though it can be cleaned like the other pieces? (iso bath & boil)

Thoughts?

 

[VAPORIZER22]

Curious if anyone has been using the smooth-flow top on the dart? I got it for the T1, and it's great...I want to try it out on the rev, but nervous it could compromise(or gunk up) the ceramic moisture reservoir. Then again it sound as though it can be cleaned like the other pieces? (iso bath & boil)

Thoughts?

Works great on the Rev. When I clean it I let sit overnight night in some iso then rinse/soak with water

 

[Dangus]

Sweet, thanks for the beta!

 

[OF]

Curious if anyone has been using the smooth-flow top on the dart? I got it for the T1, and it's great...I want to try it out on the rev, but nervous it could compromise(or gunk up) the ceramic moisture reservoir. Then again it sound as though it can be cleaned like the other pieces? (iso bath & boil)

Thoughts?

Go for it, you'll love it. Normally there's a restricted mouthpiece on the Revolution (hole in the bottom is smaller than the top). If you use the smooth flow you pick up some restriction, I found changing the mouthpiece with a large through hole worked a bit better.

OF

 

[Venomous]

I use it and it works great on the dart.

 

[Dangus]

Go for it, you'll love it. Normally there's a restricted mouthpiece on the Revolution (hole in the bottom is smaller than the top). If you use the smooth flow you pick up some restriction, I found changing the mouthpiece with a large through hole worked a bit better.

OF

I DO love it! A very nice combo to be sure. Smooth!

Cheers!

edit: 45 minutes later I figured I should mention my lack of response was due to REALLY enjoying the combo. Got 'couch'locked on the porch for the late afternoon testing this combo. Beautiful evening...

 

[ThermoVape]

Thought we would pop in for a quick new product update .

Been very busy over here at Thermo. Heading down to Richmond tomorrow as we will be at the HT cup.

We have some new products that we wil be showing this weekend. However, we always announce any new products here first.

So here is a preview. These are not on the website yet, bu will be very soon. No later then monday depending on how wild the cup is....

Are Summer Catalog is just about finished (so please excuse any typos) available fordownload here and the website will be updated soon.

We are very excited about the new products. We will have the DC adapter for the Power Supply available soon as well. This is the high voltage model, although when we find the right power supply it will work with low voltage products as well.

Hope you guys and gals like the new gear!

Let us know what you think. Cheers,

ThermoVape

 

[OF]

Cute. Too bad it'll no longer stand up. Maybe someone will build a right angle extension base for it......

OF

 

[kushcabbage]

recommended voltage for a LV DART and a vtube running on a 18650 battery at 1600mah?
I was reading earlier posts saying start at 3.6 and don't go past 4? Anyone have a guess for base voltage for best life. Also OF, I remember and have the link you recommended to the adapter for running an omicron on my ultralite. Do you have a link for an adapter for running the dart on the HVD 3.7 unregulated, I saw you mention this combo on the thread and the click on and click off would be great. Thank you in advance, your too kind.

edit: so I found out I have the f510-m601 and two versions! THC's and TV's which both fit slightly differently which is recommended by experienced users?

 

[Dangus]

Took the rev out last night to an outdoor concert. Beautiful. Medicated all evening and didn't get a second look. A couple of buddies who I clued in were very taken by it. The pass-through looks great, psyched!

 

[OF]

Also OF, I remember and have the link you recommended to the adapter for running an omicron on my ultralite. Do you have a link for an adapter for running the dart on the HVD 3.7 unregulated, I saw you mention this combo on the thread and the click on and click off would be great. Thank you in advance, your too kind.

edit: so I found out I have the f510-m601 and two versions! THC's and TV's which both fit slightly differently which is recommended by experienced users?

http://www.electronic-cigz.com/51ad.html

The two you have are "backwards", they thread into Omicrons not TV?

You're welcome! Best wishes.

OF

 

[kushcabbage]

slightly confused, http://thermovape.com/products/universal-adapter and http://www.delta9vapes.com/products.php?product=510-%2d-KR808%2dD1%2d-DSC-901--Adapter both fit into the omicron HVD and then let me thread my 510 male dart ontop. So I guess they aren't backwards, theres no stripping or cross threading of either they both just fit differently, D9V has a vent hole on the bottom, TV's does not. edit: yea that link was the original link you gave me to use omi on TV, the was the one I had to make vent holes on the sides. lol sorry for the confusion, I'm pretty sure these 2 are the ones I need, as they both screw on my HVD and make yum vapor come out of my dart, but don't know which one would work best.