Discontinued ThermoVape Evolution

2clicker

Observer
Jam,

I hear what you're saying. And if it works for you, great, go for it. It does not work that way for me. Having the load loose inside is a design point I'm told, it's why the 'four turn trap' is at the top. Loose loads vape fine for me.

i have not had any problems with the trap clogging, but i give it a little cleaning between bowls. use a 7th floor pick and gently brush the abv out and away from the trap. then i push air through it to clear it. seems to be working pretty well, but you cant get it all out that way.

2 possible solutions i can think of off the top of my head would be either a fine mesh SS screen placed in the top of the teflon sleeve, just below the trap. this should keep most if not all any plant matter getting to the trap. or... you could simply just use a more course of a grind. with the holes in the bottom and the trap at the top i tend to think that a "magic flight grind" is far too fine for this vape. i dont think users need to worry that a more course grind wont vape as well.

also Jam, maybe try a smaller amount. and before removing the sleeve give it a quick tap on something to settle the matter into the bottom of the cart. then twist and pull, like your suggestion for not rolling the oring, and nothing should pop out. at least i havent had that happen yet.
 
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jambandphan03

in flavor country
Yeah I was doing the tap method, mentioned that a few pages back, didn't think about the screen (good idea), that might be an easier fix for those of you who don't have an AR spring laying around ;), at least to keep the herb from jamming up around the air vent. My grinder is about a med. grind, I tried putting small unground chunks in the bowl, they stayed down better but didn't evenly vape. I found a pinch or so is a good sized load for me, any smaller and I would only be getting a couple of hits per load. We all seem to be having different experiences. Ultimately, I just want to see more people having success with this vape, as I am getting good results from it when the herb is down in the bowl and not at the air vent. I am stuck with only one battery slot to charge at the moment, and it takes an entire day to get the green light, so I have been trying to make the most of the bowls I can vape on one charge.
 
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Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
I hadn't seen it mentioned yet, so I'll ask. Is anyone finding any difference with the vertical orientation of the Evo? My T1 seems to work best when perpindicular to the ground. However I haven't noticed much difference with the Evolution with regards to orientation. I haven't really spent much time testing this, so I thought I'd ask what others experience has been so far.

:peace:
 
Stu,

Jeppy

Pure Vaporist
Stu,,,I know mine performs the same whether, perpindicular, horizontal, or vertical.
 
Jeppy,

OF

Well-Known Member
I plan on using this one next time I run from the cops in my car... which happens so often. ;) When they come to the window I will say "Sorry my ex-wife ran off with a cop and I thought you were bringing her back to me."

In high school one of my bud's girlfriends had a go fasty Camero. 327 destroked to 300, redline way way up there, you shoulda heard it wind make the hair on the back of your neck stand on end. Very cool. She was a looker, long blonde hair and all even without the car. Together they attracted attention. She and a GF picked a bud and me up one night and on the way home got into a 'discussion' with another super car on the freeway. Not even close. Miles later she'd missed the OR and we'd slowed down to take the next OR when the cop showed. She figured best to stop and did. We'd been cool for several minutes, he might not have been close enough for a bumper pace. So the two of us in back hunkered down and started hoping.

The cop walks up and gets an eyefull, bends over and checks out the passenger his heart melting. He glanced into the back as he launched into the old 'you and I both know' speech. She listened intently, thanked him and then evoked the old saw, 'as long as you're here can I please buy two tickets to this year's Highway Patrol Ball?'. On cue came 'I'm sorry, the CHP doesn't have any balls...'. She demurely said, 'that's too bad, I'm sorry' as she dropped the clutch and stabbed it rocketing off the shoulder and into the night. He stood there like the proverbial duck in thunder, to this day I can recall the look on his face through the rear window as the Camero fought for traction. Priceless. Boy did her BF Doug get pissed when he heard about it. Needless to say there were several of us spreading the story around school the next day. Cool lady, I wonder what happened to her? Neat car, too. 3 duces almost as big as the whole block. Everything under the hood, a true sleeper when truning under 8 grand, after that nothing was hiding the whine. Could pass anything but a gas station as the saying goes. The good old days.

Sorry to ramble, but you brought it up.

Good luck with your vape, I'll give long odds it does the job.

Regards.

OF
 

OF

Well-Known Member
Stu,,,I know mine performs the same whether, perpindicular, horizontal, or vertical.

What a pair of lightweights! Am I the only guy around here who tested it upside down? It works that way, just like Omicron does. Not a bad test, as long as nobody sees you do it. A really important feature on a 'stealth vape' IMO. The less 'crack pipe' like the better as I see it. Unlike many vapes you can hit this one in any orientation needed.

Even very modest loads in the Evolution seem to distribute themselves in the tube of the bowl effectively with a strong pull, IMO a neat feature. The bits are more or less bathed in a shower of hot air, resulting in even vaping with no special stirring. Just the ticket if you're trying to look like the other people, the ones not doing drugs..... Let's face it MFLB and some of the others can look like a guy have an epilepsy attack at the distance......

OF
 
OF,

darkrom

Great Scott!
I am thinking about getting this. I thought I read somewhere that this is compatible with water pipes. What size mm downstem will it hook up to? I am looking for a portable but it would also be a nice bonus if I could use this with my water pipe.


Are you my clone or do you just have fine taste in vapes :cheers:
 
darkrom,

Bluntcrush

Director of Vapor Research Labs™
Hello again Evo peeps!
I almost have the portable code cracked!! I asked this question to THC and never got an answer. Which Omi carts would I buy to use with my TV? I have the TV universal adapter (would I need a different one to make Omi carts work?) Seems like this would put the last pieces of the puzzle together for me...

Thanks in advance to anyone who wishes to opine on this!
 
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SameOldTim

Previously Known as 'ThermoCoreTim'
Manufacturer
Yeah I was doing the tap method, mentioned that a few pages back, didn't think about the screen (good idea), that might be an easier fix for those of you who don't have an AR spring laying around ;), at least to keep the herb from jamming up around the air vent. My grinder is about a med. grind, I tried putting small unground chunks in the bowl, they stayed down better but didn't evenly vape. I found a pinch or so is a good sized load for me, any smaller and I would only be getting a couple of hits per load. We all seem to be having different experiences. Ultimately, I just want to see more people having success with this vape, as I am getting good results from it when the herb is down in the bowl and not at the air vent. I am stuck with only one battery slot to charge at the moment, and it takes an entire day to get the green light, so I have been trying to make the most of the bowls I can vape on one charge.


We took a while trying to get the appropriate size bowl for the Evolution, and the volume we found most efficient always works best when full. With the T1 as well as the Evolution we always do a med/fine grind and loosely fill the bowl to the top, it keeps it close to the heat source so it will vape quickly and last all the way to the end while the further botanical is getting vaped.

Cheers,

Tim
 
SameOldTim,

B.

War Criminal
4ohm is the way to go w// 6v , I've got two carts filled and they work great :)

I couldnt say for LR units...OF?

Maybe 1.5?
 

jambandphan03

in flavor country
We took a while trying to get the appropriate size bowl for the Evolution, and the volume we found most efficient always works best when full. With the T1 as well as the Evolution we always do a med/fine grind and loosely fill the bowl to the top, it keeps it close to the heat source so it will vape quickly and last all the way to the end while the further botanical is getting vaped.

Cheers,

Tim

The trouble I am having is the herb being sucked out of the bowl (chamber) and up around the air vent. Once this happens, my vapor reduces to the point that I am just heating the crap out of the Evo but not really getting vapor. Once I figured out this was happening, and started tapping the load back down, it worked again. I also notice that once the herb is up around the air vent, it starts getting hard to draw, the air path starts to get blocked. Maybe I'm the only one experiencing this?? I will keep working on it... I like the "add a screen" idea, and will test that out today, removing the spring I put in there.
 
jambandphan03,

Slightly Medicated

(SliM) Iron Lungs
I just realized why Dr. Who always acts the way he does...cleaver him calling the ThermoVape a "Sonic Screwdriver". I wonder though, does the Evolution I ordered come with all the featured Dr. Who's has... or did he go further in the future and get the 10th version of the ThermoVape?

Sonic_screwdriver_-_Doomsday.png


Seriously though if you added a blue light and that little wizzy sound effect. You could use the ThermoVape in public and people would just think you are a major Dr Who geek. ;)
 

OF

Well-Known Member
4ohm is the way to go w// 6v , I've got two carts filled and they work great :)

I couldnt say for LR units...OF?

Maybe 1.5?

I say what guys always say to piss you off, 'it depends....'

If a guy is an experienced user, I agree 4 Ohm on six Volts and 1.5 for 3.7 is probably what he'll want. But both are kind of a tough way to lean about the system. A new guy can mess them up. For a new guy I'd probably suggest one or two of the high output carts in the 'mix and match' deal from PV with the rest being either 2.4 or 5 Ohms depending. As we all recall from our 'learning days' either will give a new guy more vapor than he's really ready for if pressed but they tend to be much more forgiving of early user types of exercises.

One of those 'walk before you run' kinda ideas. What ya think of that?

Maybe I'm the only one experiencing this?? I will keep working on it... I like the "add a screen" idea, and will test that out today, removing the spring I put in there.

I think I've said before how I think experimenting is a good idea and 'best ways' for one guy might not be the same with the next. If not, I'm sorry, I sure intended to. I still feel this way. Experiment on by all means.

I know you're not the only guy to 'go there', I've done a fair bit of partial fills, poke downs, take it out and regrinds and most every variation I could come up with. I did not, however try forcing it down mechanically once I found manual efforts didn't seem productive. I was given a prototype to test just that very sort of stuff in fact, as I'm sure were other Beta testers (the ground rules say I don't get that information). I'm also fairly sure lots of options have been tested by TV in the many months' long development from T1 to Evolution. You are not alone, but I think should follow your instincts in the matter.

Good luck. Please let us know what you find? Thanks.

OF
 
OF,

jambandphan03

in flavor country
I agree with OF, if you are new to Omicron and have 6v, the 5ohm is the way to start, or if you have 3.7v 2.4ohm... definitely more forgiving to start with. :nod:
 
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jambandphan03

in flavor country
It's all a learning experience, since we all seem to have different needs or expectations. I stuck a stainless steel 1/2in slightly domed screen in the cap and loaded a round. Upon removal of the cap to check things out after about 5 pulls, the herb is still coming up out of the chamber, but the screen prevented it from building up around the air vent. I still got some spillage when removing the cap. This was a loose,med grind, filled to the top load. So far for this test, I like the screen better than the spring. I was having a bit of trouble getting the loose bits off of the air vent, it gets sticky pretty fast, and the herb was just caking over the air holes. Maybe my stuff is just extra sticky or something? I am vaping dry, cured herb, so it's not too moist. I'm going to keep the screen in play for the next few days and see where it goes. Maybe I am just more picky than some...just want to fine tune my vaping experience. :haw:
 
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Greetings All!

Recent lurker, current e-cigarette owner (ProVari+Reo), and long time herb advocate.

I have always been a combuster, but I have been reading these forums (and a few others) about vaporizing. Never thought about it much before as I have always been pretty happy with my paper, pipe, and bong choices, but with the kids getting older, and the GF saying I stink when I come in from a sesh, I want to be as stealthy as possible and have decided to make the jump to portable vaporizers.

I did some initial scouring and decided to pick up an MFLB. Haven't used it yet, but it should be in the mail sometime this week. Then I do some more reading and I hear about this sucker. I am really stoked on this Evolution though. It looks like one of my e-cig PV's and seems like it performs pretty well.

I just wanted to ask a little advice from the current EVO owners and maybe Tim also.

3.7v kit or 6v kit? What are the advantages/disadvantages to each?

Hold the button the whole time you have a sesh, or is there a pulse or timing button pressing situation?

Also, stacked batteries can have issues, what safety features are built into the EVO? Does it have shut down protection? Does it have a vent hole for the venting of battery gases?

Cheers.
 

OF

Well-Known Member
Maybe my stuff is just extra sticky or something? I am vaping dry, cured herb, so it's not too moist. I'm going to keep the screen in play for the next few days and see where it goes. Maybe I am just more picky than some...just want to fine tune my vaping experience. :haw:

Pay them no mind, Jam, tune on! They laughed at the Wright brothers too, now everyone is looking for Miss Wright......

OF
 

B.

War Criminal
Maybe I just got lucky, but my first omi carts were 4ohm and I had no problems. YMMV.
 
B.,

OF

Well-Known Member
I just wanted to ask a little advice from the current EVO owners and maybe Tim also.

3.7v kit or 6v kit? What are the advantages/disadvantages to each?

Hold the button the whole time you have a sesh, or is there a pulse or timing button pressing situation?

Also, stacked batteries can have issues, what safety features are built into the EVO? Does it have shut down protection? Does it have a vent hole for the venting of battery gases?

Welcome to the fun and games, you're in the right place. I doubt there's more than a very few of us that don't come from a strong combustion background. Smoking is a natural way to get involved and you have to be pretty committed to get into gear and techniques like these. You're on track. Most of us have 'been there and done that'. Aside from the social issues (smell and all) you'll also find your lungs forgiving you in part, the high more 'pure' and your ability to 'maintain' greatly improved, but your wallet will gain weight as you spend less for herb. I'd say on average maybe a third of blazing? What you think about that estimate over all guys?

As to specific advice, for a 'ground up' kit, I'd recommend the LV version. One battery not two and longer battery life. The Standard heats a few seconds faster, but waiting that few seconds for the LV to catch up has more benefits to offer.

Yes, I key it on for the whole hit. Maybe 30 or a little more seconds from cold, a little less when already warm. The key is to have more heat than needed stored in the core to tap on demand later. Waste a little power, there are other rewards, and just have a charged battery available a bowl or two earlier until you get the hang of things.

The LV battery is protected from harm and there's only one. The two special chemistry cells to make the Standard Voltage version are also protected, such cells have never been known to cause issues. And yes, there's an appropriate vent it the corner of the battery tube bottom, the top of the tube is also open. There is no electronics in the supply (part of it's strength IMO), only a simple but very robust switch. But IMO none is called for in this design and simple makes it reliable.

Yer gonna love it.

Maybe I just got lucky, but my first omi carts were 4ohm and I had no problems. YMMV.

Well being lucky beats being sneaky.....

I tend to think most carts are 'no problem' cases. This here internet distorts reality big time. An often questionable comment or 'fact' put forward by a guy not even using his real name is taken as Gospel by well intentioned guys looking to 'get over' by knowing the real truth ahead of the rest. All very natural, but often kinda flawed in results.

Take the taste issue in point. There probably is no such thing as no taste or completely safe. Look at the number of guys who refuse to have anything to do with gear that has any butane in it. Or anything not certified as the only acceptable type of glass anywhere near hot air. Good for them, but for the rest of us if we follow them we miss out on some neat gear. So one guys raises the issue, before many miliseconds pass guys who've never puffed on one are experts telling us how they need this or that. This also is natural, but further clouds the truth if there is any. Little black and white, but all the gray you could hope for. And enough smoke and mirrors thrown up for various reasons to make even a little objective observations dicey sometimes.

We're letting other people do our observations and make our conclusions for us, seldom a good idea IMO. But once again, it seems human nature at some point.

And, of course, everyone's special these days.......

Ain't life grand? I like it anyway. If it's true 'out of chaos comes order', it must still be on the way?

OF
 

jambandphan03

in flavor country
Mine took several hours on the charger that came with the kit, I just got a new one today, hoping it is quicker.
 
jambandphan03,

vapor 4 life

Well-Known Member
Anyone have a link for where to get an adapter 510 to 601 so I can rock 4 ohm Omi carts on my Thermo. I searched old posts and the store I found was sold out. Thanks
 
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