Discontinued Thermovape Cera

OF

Well-Known Member
Just an update on my LL experience...I've been getting great results with packing it tightly, to about halfway full. I heat up the unit for a full minute and using a medium pull I get a medium vapor that gets me coughing. Usually I can get about 2 medium hits, and 2-3 light. Always end the session feeling nicely medicated.

A tight pack, half full, bowl? Tweek, have you ever colored inside the lines? Didn't like it I guess. That's inspired, gotta give it a try.

Thanks.

OF
 

Haywood

Onward Thru the Fog
Just an update on my LL experience...I've been getting great results with packing it tightly, to about halfway full. I heat up the unit for a full minute and using a medium pull I get a medium vapor that gets me coughing. Usually I can get about 2 medium hits, and 2-3 light. Always end the session feeling nicely medicated.
Thinking back on some of the tricks we all discovered to make the T1 and Evo better reminds me of the trick of packing the Evo with weed in the bottom half, and then keeping the load bottomed through the inhales via a mouthpiece and UFO or a screen. Worked much better without the air gap between the oven and the load. Sounds like the same principle.

Yeah, it's kinda neat. If you tap it out while still warm, it comes out like a little puck.
Again reminds me of discussions we were all having a year ago about the T1, and how you could pop out the puck and flip it over and put it back (or just crumble it and put it back). At least you don't have to do that anymore with the Cera; one of the improvements being the ability to vape a full bowl of botanical without having to stir.

:) indeed
 

YeeeBuddy

Well-Known Member
Question for those who have the TET supplied tenergy charger. My 2900's have been charging for a few hours now, the lights on the charger were still red but if i rotate the battery while its still in the charger will go green, then i rotate back and it will turn red again, is their any specific way the batteries should be put in? Should the label on the battery be facing up or does it not matter?
 
YeeeBuddy,

OF

Well-Known Member
Again reminds me of discussions we were all having a year ago about the T1, and how you could pop out the puck and flip it over and put it back (or just crumble it and put it back).

Are we talking the same T1 here boss? Mine has a cone shaped bowl, no way you can turn it over and put it in the other way up???

Question for those who have the TET supplied tenergy charger. My 2900's have been charging for a few hours now, the lights on the charger were still red but if i rotate the battery while its still in the charger will go green, then i rotate back and it will turn red again, is their any specific way the batteries should be put in? Should the label on the battery be facing up or does it not matter?

I'm not sure what exactly to say here, there are several points I think? First off, a few hours for an initial charge I don't see as a problem, even if they're in normal service charge times over 3 hours can easily happen since it's a one Amp (maximum) charger and nearly 3 Ah battery (charging current isn't maximum the full time). That part seems normal.

Rotating the battery in the slot can cause it to loose contact (seems to be more common on flat tops, button tops are pretty solid). However, while that does shift the red to green (when the battery charge current drops to a very low value, like zero, since it's not connected any more.....). However that's only for a second or two, then it should go out. It should not show a solid green with a battery that's not properly charged in the slot???

FWIW my usual routine is to put the battery in, fiddle with it until it comes up red then let it sit that way until I get a solid green. Like I said, flat tops can take a little fiddling. Also I have some protected versions of the high current NCR 18650s (2900s ) TV is using the unprotected version of. The protection board makes the total package over long, it won't fit in that charger's slots so I have to angle the positive end up a bit. Looks funny, but it works.

No, there is no up or down, put the label any way you want.

OF
 

YeeeBuddy

Well-Known Member
Thanks you answered my question. I'm pretty sure they werent done yet.

Edit: I was able to give the EO cart a try i loaded .5 of pure gold. Once it was all soaked into the ceramic I gave it constant power and within 10-15 seconds it was making as much vapor as i could handle. Taste was amazing and vapor very smooth. I have a new respect for Noah and what he did for those vids. I gave up after 8 hits and now I am quite medicated.

Do you guys also have a fair amount of oil residue inside the mouthpiece/ on top of the cart after a EO sesh? I am only hitting it right side up. Not a big deal it wiped off super easy with a paper towel just curious if this is normal?
 

Sonics420

Well-Known Member
1 hitter quitter????

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Cera EO is the truth..its just eatin everything lol. Amazing flavor its like a nail you can control. Sometimes when i dab i cant take it all.. i get to throttle with the Cera and sip BHO...So dope.


This is how i use the LL which is nice also
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Haywood

Onward Thru the Fog
I said:
Again reminds me of discussions we were all having a year ago about the T1, and how you could pop out the puck and flip it over and put it back (or just crumble it and put it back).

Are we talking the same T1 here boss? Mine has a cone shaped bowl, no way you can turn it over and put it in the other way up???

Same T1. I actually didn't do a 180° flip most of the time, I did a 90° flip. When you put the cone plug (aka the half spent weed, ready for it's stir before enjoying the other half) back into the bowl, it is, by necessity, reshaped. And hence, "stirred". The beauty of the times when your load happened to have the moisture content suitable to form a plug out of the half spent load was that you could perform your "stir" without getting your hands dirty. When my load started out appreciably dryer, a plug wouldn't form and I would just dump the load into my palm and fruitlessly try to separate the ABV while stirring it in my palm, and then I'd dump it back into the T1 to enjoy the second half. With a dirty palm. Which is different from a hairy palm.

:)

Unfortunately, your rotate-between-the-palms method never worked well for me. Would "spin" the load around, but that still left the ABV in the center and the good stuff around the sides.

I find myself using the Evo more than the T1 these days, but nothing has quite the flavor of the T1 with a fresh load. (Except maybe the Cera LL).
 

YeeeBuddy

Well-Known Member
1 hitter quitter????

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Cera EO is the truth..its just eatin everything lol. Amazing flavor its like a nail you can control. Sometimes when i dab i cant take it all.. i get to throttle with the Cera and sip BHO...So dope.

Damn you really load that thing up, is the draw restricted with all that ? Ive only loaded .5 of pure gold in mine so far.
 
YeeeBuddy,

Haywood

Onward Thru the Fog
like a nail you can control

You should send this line to Tim. This is the best testimonial I have ever read for the Cera EO. Ever. In just that one simple line. You should win a prize. Really.

And it's not just because I'm medicated right now, on slightly too much PG.

Edit: Oh, and you should try a ptfe mouthpiece directly into the top of the core (without the magic ceramic mouthpiece), and your tube onto the top of the ptfe mouthpiece. It will keep the oil from condensing on the top of the core and the bottom (and insides) of the mouthpiece, and in the long run, will save you a bunch of oil and sticky cleaning...
 

iamn3ko

Well-Known Member
Do you guys also have a fair amount of oil residue inside the mouthpiece/ on top of the cart after a EO sesh? I am only hitting it right side up. Not a big deal it wiped off super easy with a paper towel just curious if this is normal?

Yeah man, one thing that scares me is after using my LL, if I don't wipe it off, and screw in my oil core not thinking about it, ill get weed and oil all over the bottom of the mouthpiece, and weed gets mixed in with my oil...

It's really easy to be stoned and either not notice or not care.

This is probably the only time anyone will ever hear me complain about getting weed in my oil lol. I'm just worried about the EO getting clogged with weed or worse, ash! From a heated ceramic ring.

I tend to be lazy and stoned and wipe it off with my finger initially, then I'm like...fuck, now I have weed and oil all over my fingers.
 

JCat

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
Ok ... so I'm thinking about using my Cera EO for the first time .... I don't have a lot of experience with concentrates ... but I've had some decent ones purchased mail order and I have some nice golden ISO oil since they were out of BHO but said this was excellent ... what's the best way to load this? (I really have no experience ... I have a HMK Ti Curve which really turned me on to concentrates as a treat or as a quick way to medicate when in a hurry ... I also had a Persei but never really like it that much so sold it ... too many issues with clogging and too much mess ... they have better carts now though so who knows ...)

Anyways ... if anyone could give me a quick A-Z walkthrough (step-by-step) of loading a "somewhat" runny oil I'd appreciate it! (if I hold the vial on it's side, it will start to flow to the shape of the container ... but VERY slowly)

Edit: Should I just take a gob out of the vial and spread it against the side of the ceramic plate in the cart? Or should I load it higher and let it heat to flow down? Should I preheat prior to trying to load? I could really use a tutorial ... :) (although I'm sure if I looked hard enough I'd find one :lol:)
 
JCat,
Ok ... so I'm thinking about using my Cera EO for the first time .... I don't have a lot of experience with concentrates ... but I've had some decent ones purchased mail order and I have some nice golden ISO oil since they were out of BHO but said this was excellent ... what's the best way to load this? (I really have no experience ... I have a HMK Ti Curve which really turned me on to concentrates as a treat or as a quick way to medicate when in a hurry ... I also had a Persei but never really like it that much so sold it ... too many issues with clogging and too much mess ... they have better carts now though so who knows ...)

Anyways ... if anyone could give me a quick A-Z walkthrough (step-by-step) of loading a "somewhat" runny oil I'd appreciate it! (if I hold the vial on it's side, it will start to flow to the shape of the container ... but VERY slowly)
If it is a little bit stable, get a paper clip and try to drop it directly onto the ceramic heating sponge. Melt it down by turning it on and you have a loaded Cera!
 

JCat

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
By a little bit stable you mean solid enough to "scoop up" ...? (Although I've owned >20 vaporizers and have been using cannabis products for >20 years, >10 chronic or medical, I'm still a newby with concentrates :lol:)
 
JCat,
By a little bit stable you mean solid enough to "scoop up" ...? (Although I've owned >20 vaporizers and have been using cannabis products for >20 years, >10 chronic or medical, I'm still a newby with concentrates :lol:)

Yes just drop it in and let it melt down the reservoir. The closer it is to the sponge the faster it will be. You can also use an Omicron filling tool if the concentrate is hard to handle and you have one lying around.
 

YeeeBuddy

Well-Known Member
Yea i try to drop it directly on the ceramic sponge then turn on the power for 5-10 seconds and u will see it start to absorb into the ceramic its pretty cool. The ceramic seems "thirsty" is the only way i can describe it so for your first loading I think at least .3 - .5, I put in a .5 vial of PG and it absorbed it all no problem.
 

JCat

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
Ok ... so I loaded about .4 ... just sorta' dabbed/scraped it in using some stainless tools I have and it seemed to go pretty well with little waste and it was pretty easy and clean.

Put the cap on when I thought it had enough and started to draw a little while holding and didn't get anything ... tried again ... and exhaled a HUGE CLOUD OF VAPOUR ... actually got me coughing a little (caught me a little off guard!). Had a couple other small hits and I'm good ... (I use concentrates as a filler ... I only go through about 2-3g of herbs a day so in concentrates that translates to maybe .35-.75g depending on the concentrate (probably about .6-.75 of this stuff)
 

iamn3ko

Well-Known Member
Glad it's working for you man.

Alright so after seeing Sonics420 mouthpiece with the thermal cap, I decided to try and make one just too mess around with it.

This is what I came up with. I don't use the ceramic mouth piece with it, just the open Cera top, a rubber grommet o ring, the thermal cap, and a glass mouthpiece from my Extreme Q.

Along with the new packing tight, small(er) bowl technique, this thing chugs some good LL vapor!

I was having issues with my hits after the 1st one, and now I'm getting like GOOD LL vapor.

Easy to use, attach and store away, and works with the EO as well.

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EDIT: I just put a screen between the grommet and Cera top. No more scoobs.
 

YeeeBuddy

Well-Known Member
First impressions of the LL cart are pretty promising, this is my first vape, no experience with the T1 or any other thermovape products. Going in blind I have had no trouble at all making vapor, definitely no clouds like the EO cart produces but I don't think that's realistic for LL. I too am having more success with Tweeks method of packing half way pretty tight than fully packing it, throwing some kief on top is pretty nice as well. Vapor isnt super thick but it still has me coughing like a nice bong rip, and I am suprised at how medicated i get off with such little herb. I plan on quitting smoking and Cera is gonna be my daily so i am very hopeful after the results I've got so far.

Actually the vapor has been kinda harsh on my lungs, is this normal for someone switching from combustion to vaping? Ive heard your lungs have to get used to vapor and are trying to get rid of all that nasty shit from years of combustion so hopefully they stop hurting.

I like to weigh the EO cart to get an idea of how much concentrate i have left in it. Empty it weighed 42.12 grams, right now mine weighs 42.40 and is spitting out serious vapor in 10-15 seconds max.

Also gotta give a shoutout to Zeki and the rest of the TET crew, I cant even imagine how many emails and phone calls you guys have been getting the past few months asking the same things lol. So thanks for being cool every time I had to call and change my order/ask a question.
 

OF

Well-Known Member
. Vapor isnt super thick but it still has me coughing like a nice bong rip, and I am suprised at how medicated i get off with such little herb. I plan on quitting smoking and Cera is gonna be my daily so i am very hopeful after the results I've got so far.

Yeah, isn't that just he truth? Cera forces you to take the good with the better still. Tough row to hoe for sure......

Congrats with the giving up blazing part, that stuff can kill ya.....not to me mention getting in the way of your enjoyment in other ways. I bet when you do your lungs will back off, it seems to be the typical experience.

As to Tweek's interesting idea, I don't know about you but I find it a little spooky he came up with what seems like such a good idea..... Had to happen sooner or later, of course, I just wasn't ready for it.

I agree, CS is not easy. It's sad that good CS stands out so much (means it's not very common), but in TV's (and a few others IMO) case it sure does. They deserve full points, having clearly earned them. Solid product, excellent quality and support, US made, reasonable price what's not to like?

Well, OK, it's still backordered. But that's really a personal problem you see, when yours gets there it really changes things.....

OF
 

Tweek

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I had this big long post going, and then the forum went nuts and I lost it. Basic gist of it:

Try pre-warming your LL bowl empty, then pack it and take a draw. Clouds are much thicker. Apologies to anyone who may have mentioned this already.
 

skesseks

Member
Well, this is my first vape and first time using one (unless you count a lump of hash, two cherry hot knives and a funnel, i didn't think so). I have the LL cart.
It did take me a short while to get the hang of it. But I read TV's tips again and that helped.
Oh boy, the first time I really got it working I accidentally got RIPPED.

I must say, it is nice to not have the burnt odor and nasty ash mess any more. One problem that I am having it knowing when the load is 'done'.... any help with that?

I was concerned about dropping so much on a device, especially my first one, but I think that the pure pleasure of the results and the top notch quality make it totally worth it.
 
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