@villekille2 hi, This seems like a great alternative to the Grasshopper that i was looking for....
Does this stay cool? [i don't want any heat issues on my sensative throat]
Does this have the ability to attach a small portable water tool and does anyone have links to where i can get 1?
Is there any discount for FC members? or will there be a sale on them soon?
How long is the warranty? and how much are the shipping prices abroad ? [EU]
All those questions are answerable by visiting the manufacturers site as well as reading through this thread.
Q: Shipping to where you live?
A: Put it in the basket and get shipping quote - I just did it for California 90210 and got 24 Euros .....same as Toronto - so I believe it is a worldwide shipping quote.....at least probably to most North American cities. Deliver is very fast.....under a week from Finland
Q: What is the warranty
A: Unless an alternate length warranty is specifically mentioned than I would think that the 2 year warranty mentioned on the site for the Venus vaporizer would also apply to the Apollo. I doubt that the manufacturer would differentiate and claim that one of his vaporizers is more reliable than the other and as such would have a different warranty period.
Q: Is there a discount for FC members?
A: If you don't see an FC discount advertised on his profile or signature or haven't seen one offered, then.....you guessed it - one doesn't exist.
Q: Is there a sale soon?
A: I doubt it.....when the vape pricing was first discussed (read full thread) there was a feeling that it was very reasonably priced. It was also released as a pre-order at this price and pre-order pricing is always going to potentially be lower than final pricing......it rarely works the other way around for an item that the manufacturer is swamped in manufacturing .....as seems to be the case.
Also potential factors affecting future pricing might be if there are changes and improvements to the device as a result of the feedback through FC and elsewhere and an Apollo 2.0 is release with design tweaks; such as
- improved heat shielding/selectable airflow back-plate slider,
- custom glass blown wands with integral bowls (rather than cut/polished quartz tubing), improved battery cap for easier access by medical users,
As well as some sexy "wish list" unicorn features such as:
- optional aesthetic "bling" by using a selectable RGBW LED for the boost light,
- a Bluetooth thermo-couple in the vapor path with output readings to smart device display to assist with monitoring the temperature of the vapor flow and being able to more accurately temperature step through the fractional distillation of the desired actives in your herb. For myself, I extract everything at once and am only concerned with not combusting - this feature would of course also help in preventing this from occurring.
Then it is likely that any Apollo 2.0 would of course command a higher price.....at least in my mind.
If the price remained the same after any such improvements are made - then it would be an even bigger bargain ......which would hopefully increase demand and result in greater sales volume - which of course is also of benefit to the manufacturer in profiting from their enterprise as well as building a larger customer base and word of mouth referrals.
After all, until you've tried something yourself - all you can go on are the reports of others.
I am almost exclusively an at home vaporizer. If I wanted to travel and share on the move among friends, I would want to use my Mighty.
If I was entertaining in the bedroom
- I would prefer something on demand like perhaps the Milaana....or perhaps use my hot log at bedside
But if I am at home alone or among friends and want to get serious about getting medicated then the Apollo is what would provide the best experience and also allow you to move your glassware around to where it needs to be without being chained to a plug like with a log vape - which it will also outperform. That is saying quite a lot and should be very meaningful for anyone who knows what a log vape is capable of.
So if the Mighty collects dust while I'm at home and this is my go to vape - which is also in a very classy natural wood finish - then the current pricing, which is priced lower than a Mighty, MiniVape, Volcano or Sublimator - is going to be what I am going to consider to be a bargain for what I am getting.
Q: Portable water tool?
A: Not as of yet.....unless you mod one yourself.
Water tool? Yes, of course - this is the only way I use this vape since this is also the only way to drive the vapor production to the highest level and yet be able to easily deliver that volume of vapor without any discomfort to the throat and lungs.
I hope that this response helps in answering your questions.
If I've said anything incorrect or erroneously assumed something wrong than the manufacturer is of course free to set the record straight.
A vacuum would only increase heat retention, so it wouldn't help to cool the vapor any IMO.
You know, now that I think some more about it, you could very well be right.
I was taking something as truth without questioning it and thinking through it myself....which was kind of intellectually lazy of myself.
But I was under that unquestioned assumption after having recently spoken to a glassblower who had designed a large internal coil piece for the Sublimator which is under vacuum and he stated that this lowered the temperature of the space in vacuum relative to the vapor path.
But then of course the only method of heat transfer between the walls of the inner tube and an external space at a lower temperature would be through radiation heat transfer - which is much less effective than conductive or convective heat transfer.
I do think that what would make more sense is if the space between the inner and outer tubes are filled with a media that can safely be frozen (such as a vapor tamer - although freezer storage can be a pain) then this might be the best way of assisting with cooling
.....aside from the less complicated option of an internal cooling coil that vastly increases the length of the vapor path as well as the surface area with which to affect cooling and heat transfer
Thank you for making me take a look at my unquestioned assumptions further .....I hate to provide an opinion and present it as scientific fact .....if it isn't
If anyone who has heard of the use of glassware utilizing a vacuum and believes that there is something that I am not understanding in how that helps with cooling ......then please chime in.....I'd rather be wrong than ignorant
Edit: A miracle appears to have occurred...... my two posts (hadn't even considered that they were back-to-back) seem to have somehow miraculously been combined?
What....is that an image of the Divine Virgin Mary Jane that I am seeing in my poured out ABV?
I better not advertise this second miracle......the lineups that might arise as a result of the faithful congregating to get a glimpse of this divine wonder would surely interrupt my holy communion with the Sacred Mother
I sense a divine hand at work here.......so I will have to get out a beer and pour a liquid offering and reflect on the nature of reality and the necessity of the human condition to my spiritual growth through my private worship of the perfection of hops and barley and my appreciation of the miraculous Holy Virgin Mary Jane ......although for a Virgin .....she sure seems to get around