The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie

[VapinBassist]

T2 US shipping update

I currently have a few parcels en route to the US with different couriers to test what happens. I’m still waiting for them to arrive, so the newsletter announcement will be delayed by a couple of days to allow me to assess the situation more thoroughly. It's very likely that there is a working solution that I can't announce

I will do EVERYTHING I can to ship the parcels with zero or minimal tariffs as soon as possible. The longer the wait, the more free goodies you can expect with your order.

The second batch of full titanium stock is expected to arrive around May 16. Once it does, I’ll begin packing all US orders so they can ship as soon as a solution is in place or there is a change with the tariffs.

By default, all US orders are on hold, so you don’t need to contact me unless you wish to cancel your order. To cancel, please use the contact form and select "Cancel Order." Note that refunded full titanium Tempests cannot be reserved until the situation is resolved and repurchased.

Was just wondering about this this morning, but then I thought, you know what, if you haven’t heard anything, brenyo’s probably got the situation in hand.

Thanks for doing your best with this awful situation! The communication is super helpful.

 

[jbm]

@Brenyo I appreciate your holding on to units for your USA customers you could easily sell. This is really the kind of service that makes lifelong customers and should serve as an model for much of the artisan vape business. Thanks.

 

[Mnmlmitch]

Thanks for your update for US customers. I’ve been excited for months, and it’s been a whirlwind of emotions since I got my preorder in, but I can’t wait to receive it! Was a customer before and will continue to be in the future!

 

[sternit]

All titanium other than the aluminium heat shield on the release model.

except for the o-rings, of course.

 

[anome]

and the ferrous bits, otherwise IH would be problematic.

 

[General Disaster]

I'm going to share some of my thoughts on it at some point, but at the moment there's only one thing I really don't like, the green indicator....
For whatever reason, if I'm at home, under our normal lights, I just can't see it, that and it's absolutely pulling the the strings of my OCD

My assumption is that green is the end point colour from anodizing. If that's true, would you not be able to take that thin oxide layer off with a gentle abrasive to leave a raw Ti finish? (and more to the point, would that help visibility?)

 

[Fearless Disaster]

My assumption is that green is the end point colour from anodizing. If that's true, would you not be able to take that thin oxide layer off with a gentle abrasive to leave a raw Ti finish? (and more to the point, would that help visibility?)

I think I saw elsewhere in this thread someone who already anodized their tempest 2. I think they mentioned that an etching solution would reverse the order of the colors. so if green is at the end you should technically be able to drop it in an etching solution and it will reverse through the colors and you take it out when its the color you want?

edit: you are right that green is at the end, here is someone who actually anodized different bars of ti at different voltages so you can see the colors:

Anodized titanium color chart 9 thru 90 volts

Aloha O-community. Some of you know I've been anodizing. But when I first researching things, I noticed I could never find a comprehensive chart showing 'ALL' the colors. After doing this, I now understand why. Some colors, like all those in the 30 volt range, look similar to one another. Some...

www.oakleyforum.com

 

[HaggisHunter]

My assumption is that green is the end point colour from anodizing. If that's true, would you not be able to take that thin oxide layer off with a gentle abrasive to leave a raw Ti finish? (and more to the point, would that help visibility?)

I can but it'll need to wait, I'll need to do it properly or that'll annoy me even more.
Green is indeed the last colour.
Also seems to be worse in my living room than other rooms, it has an old fluorescent light that I haven't changed yet.
I thought plain and gold were the most visible. I never tried green though, or the lighter shade of purple before green.

@Fearless Disaster it doesn't quite work like that unfortunately, it only works one way.
You can see the colours come away in a fashion, but not in the same way it goes on.

I'll try and do a video at some point, to show what I mean.

I at least did a video of the T2 mouthpiece being done, but it only cycles through one colour before landing on purple so you don't really see much.
I normally put photos up with ibb, I think a 2 minute hd video might might too much for here.

 

[BushRanger]

Some more action of v1...

Watch Tv1 with Forge | Streamable

Watch "Tv1 with Forge" on Streamable.

streamable.com

Btw, how are Quartz balls with v2? Very excited to try that, as I really liked borosilicate balls in v1.

 

[HaggisHunter]

I think I saw elsewhere in this thread someone who already anodized their tempest 2. I think they mentioned that an etching solution would reverse the order of the colors. so if green is at the end you should technically be able to drop it in an etching solution and it will reverse through the colors and you take it out when its the color you want?

edit: you are right that green is at the end, here is someone who actually anodized different bars of ti at different voltages so you can see the colors:

Anodized titanium color chart 9 thru 90 volts

Aloha O-community. Some of you know I've been anodizing. But when I first researching things, I noticed I could never find a comprehensive chart showing 'ALL' the colors. After doing this, I now understand why. Some colors, like all those in the 30 volt range, look similar to one another. Some...

www.oakleyforum.com

Did something similar with some titanium bolts, going clockwise from 12 o'clock, you end up at green, the colours aren't particularly great in this photo.

Last non tempest related photo....

 

[cybrguy]

Those must be pretty high res, I'm still waiting for them to load.

 

[Dirigible_Molecule]

... it has an old fluorescent light that I haven't changed yet.

I have some colour temp adjustable LED lamps at my desk, I found that white light ( which I rarely use owing to daylight sensitivity) renders the V2 green indicator near invisible. A warmer temp makes it perfectly visible 8)

Likely getting rid of that old fitting and/or introducing some warmer light would help.

 

[General Disaster]

Personally I find the green colour works much better in natural daylight than artificial (domestic LED) light. But even in artificial, the green is better than the original metallic finish of the T1 (my colour perception isn't the best so this'll be rather subjective of course).

 

[kokolokokolokon]

For those who don’t like the green indicator…maybe the easier way to solve it is to disassemble the indicator housing and use a sand paper a bit on the indicator piece (just in the part you check to know when it is ready

 

[Fearless Disaster]

I would love to put a blurple VI in just because I love the color. maybe if extras are sold at launch I'll finally try my hand at ti anodizing!

 

[PrematureEvaporation]

So with the reports of this thing hitting harder, is it simply a bigger bowl or more complex than that?

I found the TA3 to hit harder than the V1 Tempest due to the extra conduction in the mix. Just wondering if the V2 has a little more conduction itself? Is the signature more stony at all?

I think this is an excellent v2 but did we expect any different from @Brenyo

 

[scotcan]

So with the reports of this thing hitting harder, is it simply a bigger bowl or more complex than that?

I found the TA3 to hit harder than the V1 Tempest due to the extra conduction in the mix. Just wondering if the V2 has a little more conduction itself? Is the signature more stony at all?

I think this is an excellent v2 but did we expect any different from @Brenyo

I’m finding mine hits very heavy. 0.15g in the half bowl clears in about 3 draws for me to a nice brown at 270C in the wand. I get a much stronger hit and it lasts about 2 hours. Compared with the original tempest, I’d say perhaps 30-40% stronger. Compared to a TinyMight 2, it’s probably twice as strong a hit and the TM2 hit lasts about an hour at a temp of 6-7.

I suspect it’s a few things. With the half bowl setting there is probably a bit more conduction in the mix, especially if the head is fairly deep into the wand. Being a wider bowl, the evenness of heating is incredible so you’re extracting everything at once.

Only downside is I keep falling asleep on the sofa after using the Tempest 2 with indicas

 

[RedZep]

So with the reports of this thing hitting harder, is it simply a bigger bowl or more complex than that?

I found the TA3 to hit harder than the V1 Tempest due to the extra conduction in the mix. Just wondering if the V2 has a little more conduction itself? Is the signature more stony at all?

I think this is an excellent v2 but did we expect any different from @Brenyo

I think there is something in the extraction. I'm finding more potency per g compared to V1. The AVB is usually more evenly extracted, consistently.

The bowl doesn't have the heat sink fins that the V1 does. Maybe this helps. It also has more calories in the heater which might contribute.

I'm not detecting any extra conduction in the signature though. Still feels almost pure convection to me.

 

[sentabi]

Is there any chance that someone could make a YouTube review of their experiences (especially if you use a torch)? It doesn't have to be anything crazy, I'd just like to see it in action! I've been checking and refreshing multiple times a day and realized I could make a request haha.

 

[screamer19]

i dont care how long i have to wait, i just want one of these in titanium evenutally. so some of the refunded titanium t2s will be made available to reserve at some point?

 

[Dirigible_Molecule]

+1 for increased extraction, the heat is retained for longer and there is a lot of it.

As for "stoned" effects I'm a Kush- indica person anyway but my current best floors me nicely in about 1/2 the bowls I would get through with the V1, that was a lot though ref my tolerance.

Stoney yes, a thorough extraction, I'm tapping out dry avb and I keep my flower close to 62%RH, always have. Milky vapour that kills my pain and aids sleep 8)

I don't feel conduction, I wouldn't say that the avb is darker around the edges.

 

[RedZep]

Is there any chance that someone could make a YouTube review of their experiences (especially if you use a torch)? It doesn't have to be anything crazy, I'd just like to see it in action! I've been checking and refreshing multiple times a day and realized I could make a request haha.

I can try and knock something up later on. I'm out the house right now.

 

[kokolokokolokon]

@sentabi I plan to make a short video review (in spanish with eng subs). But maybe you want a “clouds video”? Taking a look on how the others use it(?)

@PrematureEvaporation maybe the v2 is hitting harder because the heat retention on the chamber. I would say it is enough to increase performance and punch but not enough to add “mid” conduction. (That and the new mass layer doesnt get as stressed as the v1 one(?))

 

[Minsc_NBoo]

Only downside is I keep falling asleep on the sofa after using the Tempest 2 with indicas

I'm with you there! I sat down for a gaming session last night, played for an hour and then fell asleep

I've gone back to 0.15 setting, so the same as the OG, and it still seems to hit a bit harder. It doesn't seem anymore conduction, even though the cap is thicker. My AVB comes out light brown but fully cooked

 

[General Disaster]

I'm guessing it's mostly the extra calories it can hold and deliver that's the biggest single factor improving the effects.

Reasoning goes:
To extract pretty much everything out of the flower (all the terpenes and cannabinoids in the main) you have to reach a certain temperature in the bowl that's high enough for the highest boiling point compounds. The less energy available to be delivered (or calories, however you like to view it) the hotter it has to be, so that by the time enough heat has been transferred to the whole bowl and contents the temperature is still high enough for good extraction of higher B.pt's.

This means that some of the weed will be over heated, and some will be under heated, whereas if there is an excess of energy available in the cap, it need not have such a high temperature because it remains hot enough for longer to not need to have too high a temperature, hence maintains a much better overall average internal bowl temperature with a lower deviation.

I've also little doubt the engineering of the air flow etc is much improved too and has a significant effect in how much better the T2 is, and quite likely those new screens give a better distribution of hot air. There's so little restriction, and what there is is pretty much down to how much you pack the weed into the bowl. I've gone back down from full to ⅔ size bowl as I was just getting too wasted on the full bowl. I'm using the most loosely packed and coarsely ground flower I can, fitting about 0.11g to 0.12g in a bowl and getting one hit extractions with ease. That airflow is amazingly free and open!