Dejavu
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i do with no issues .. wand/tempest brand new
The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie
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Like I said I use the half bowl anyway. But I would love to see your wand insertion depth, because I think that that is the most likely reason
kokolokokolokon
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I will post pictures. Now i can say I use to set it like the manual for herb, but, in general, i like to use it in a slightly lower position. Showing it a little under the wand to add a bit of conductionLike I said I use the half bowl anyway. But I would love to see your wand insertion depth, because I think that that is the most likely reason
General Disaster
Of cabbages and Kings.
It'll be ball's deep of course!
Octavia
No thoughts, head empty
Unironically balls deep is a good way to describe the ideal wand insert position! Gotta set it up so that the ball chamber is the only thing in the coil so you don’t accidentally burn the bush (aka herb/bowl, but gotta maintain the innuendo)!It'll be ball's deep of course!
I assume brenyo’s wand has its coil slightly lower set or more tightly wound than some of ours which leads to scorching/combusting at the pictured depth.
kokolokokolokon
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Ironically, you just puts the tip inIt'll be ball's deep of course!
@MegaChip I recorded 2 videos and did take a couple of photos.
In both I use half of the tip airflow, full helix on stem, closed carbhole, 2,5 SiC balls. I hope the photo of the wand insert and what is shown on the wand video is enough to understand how i use to set it. Sometimes like 1-2mm deeper for hash.
With wand:
With triple torch:
I have to say I reach the second line to get a one heat extraction since I “mod” a little the VI to raise it, so if i go up to between the second and third line i get a good point for hash. And third line is great if I want to get well baked with hash.
General Disaster
Of cabbages and Kings.
... and swear blind you'll pull out before . . . oops!Ironically, you just puts the tip in
General Disaster
Of cabbages and Kings.
Not that I've noticed. Set mine up as described on MH's site (but maybe 1mm further in with the insert position), and both my beta (last Feb) and a release version second cap & bowl (to bung on a revolve2) and they both work fine in my Wand.
Octavia
No thoughts, head empty
When did you get your wand? I picked mine up from Dynavap around March 2024. Was more thinking that maybe newer production runs adjusted the coil position, but it’s probably just variance in their design.
Mine would scorch 70% of the time unless I set airflow to minimum at the recommended depth, but then I moved the tempest insert about 1-2mm shallower and have gotten perfect extraction ever since.
I changed the adapter height. It's not at the minimum insertion depth recommended by the manual. Worked great, had no problem with uneven roasts in half bowl settings atleast!Ironically, you just puts the tip in
@MegaChip I recorded 2 videos and did take a couple of photos.
In both I use half of the tip airflow, full helix on stem, closed carbhole, 2,5 SiC balls. I hope the photo of the wand insert and what is shown on the wand video is enough to understand how i use to set it. Sometimes like 1-2mm deeper for hash.
With wand:
With triple torch:
I have to say I reach the second line to get a one heat extraction since I “mod” a little the VI to raise it, so if i go up to between the second and third line i get a good point for hash. And third line is great if I want to get well baked with hash.
Fearless Disaster
Active Member
Glass Charlie is making me one right now and mailing it to me with my tempest head. @Duba uses a wood covered glass one from @Aezhenn and I believe he is a fan. I am in a conversation to get one like Duba's. I'll report in when I get to try them. For reference, a dimpled j-hook is plenty of cooling for me for a ball vape one and done. From what I understand (without getting to try mine yet) a carb by the head could make an otherwise useful cooling stem too hot to hold.
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simba
@weedanwine
Yours looks pretty damn nice
General Disaster
Of cabbages and Kings.
I bought mine almost the same time as you, though I got mine in the UK so it's possible they've changed design but I got the same version as MH used. Though this is the first time I've heard any suggestion of this which seems odd, but who knows? All I can say is I set it up as shown on their site, to the best of my ability, then moved the insert deeper by about 1mm and have had no problems since.
I found that too much airflow tended to ignite the flower (I run close to the line so it doesn't take much more to combust), and maybe this is why reducing your airflow made a difference? You can't pull as much heat into the bowl per second if the airflow is reduced. I just learnt to regulate my inhalation strength instead, especially on the second draw once the bowl's heated up to temp and the clouds start to thicken.
If I had to guess I'd say you simply had your insert 1 or 2mm too deep the first time round (as HM say, you need to adjust it to your liking, the depth suggested is a starting point).
Octavia
No thoughts, head empty
Yeah, I initially had it set where it looked like the manual and reduced airflow to about 1/4, but was definitely riding a line where if I took my normal speed inhale on the first hit or opened the airports to 1/2 I’d pretty reliably combust. Pushing the insert up to current depth gives me a little less heat, but I don’t have to worry about passing it to my friends or spouse and having them accidentally combust.
Also noticed my preferred dynavap depth is shallower than others, so I’m pretty sure my wand just generates its magnetic field slightly further up than others. It’s definitely addressed in the manual, but just sharing my experience since it took me several combusted bowls before I found my sweet spot.
General Disaster
Of cabbages and Kings.
That is definitely a factor, it takes a little experience with it to get used to what it can and can't take, heat/airflow wise.
I think, especially for those who like dark roast, having a few combusts is an important part of sussing out the limits. And that fuckin' 'orrible taste certainly doesn't hurt when programming the brain not to combust!
Yeah, same here, and also it turns out it's not a bad method for the Tempest too!
Though seriously, after a few tries I've never reduced the airflow from max at all, but then I like DTL rather than MTL and don't use a glass bubbler very often.
humbuckers
Active Member
Half bowl boro balls for me. Full bowl I couldn’t overpack. Half bowl I can stuff to my hearts desire AND get better results
Dejavu
Well-Known Member
does closing the air ports on the head make it hit more restrictive/hotter too? I like dtl tooThat is definitely a factor, it takes a little experience with it to get used to what it can and can't take, heat/airflow wise.
I think, especially for those who like dark roast, having a few combusts is an important part of sussing out the limits. And that fuckin' 'orrible taste certainly doesn't hurt when programming the brain not to combust!
Yeah, same here, and also it turns out it's not a bad method for the Tempest too!
Though seriously, after a few tries I've never reduced the airflow from max at all, but then I like DTL rather than MTL and don't use a glass bubbler very often.
funkensteinberg
Member
Hi folks, I couldn’t find a straightforward answer to this so apologies if I’ve missed it in the 319 pages…
Just getting a factory second head-only, but what’s the diameter of the Tempest head at the point where it connects with the stem? In other words, what stems is it compatible with? TIA!
Just getting a factory second head-only, but what’s the diameter of the Tempest head at the point where it connects with the stem? In other words, what stems is it compatible with? TIA!
Octavia
No thoughts, head empty
8mm I believe, same as dynavaps
kegstandman420
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made my first stem using the liner on mad heaters site. Really happy how it turned out. 14/18mm compatible. Purple heart to match my purple tempest.
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funkensteinberg
Member
Thanks folks. Mostly be using it with dry rigs and a WPA adaptor so should be fine for cooling.