Fearless Disaster
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what are you setting the wand on? my tempest should arrive this week!
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The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie
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Agent_KushmanX
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Nice man, I hope you like it!! Im using my wand on flower mode, so idk the equivalent in F but its 4/4 fires. still the way i use it doesnt really depend on the timer since i start inhaling based on the visual indicator.
kegstandman420
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Yeah 530f was more a starting point where I got light to medium abv with 3mm rubies. I've gone to 550f, but I'm going to see how high I can push it (for science). I always received 3mm balls, so can't comment on the difference in 3mm-2.5mm. I have tried each material in 3MM on MH site plus 3mm rubies. 3mm stainless steel was like 670f or something like that on the wand. I've been mainly using 3mm sic (f545) and 3mm zrc (f600). All wand temps are until "time out"
Testersinc
Active Member
Atm one of my tempest heads has a mixture of 22 sic balls(closer to screen) + 2.5 zirc balls rest. wand set to 585 pull till timeover. Using black siicone wand adapter(grooves inside are cut so it won't touch the VI). Wand depth is set at deepest i can to allow best conduction(i find this config is as closest to Tornado hit which i prefer vs full convection hits). Also this depth gives me all around darker avb.
I mostly hit my tempest in my globe/bong though
I have to try it on. My old cheapo dab rig from a decade ago
Just sharing this setup incase if you want to try some ball mixture rec=)
I mostly hit my tempest in my globe/bong though
I have to try it on. My old cheapo dab rig from a decade ago
Just sharing this setup incase if you want to try some ball mixture rec=)
I'm considering postponing my Ball cleaning for the vape out of sheer laziness. Are there any negatives to doing this from a performance or health perspective? I did read someone noticing a better taste after cleaning them but was curious if there are other thoughts on keeping them dirty for a bit? I'm cool with a slight reduction in taste for the time being if that's the main functional difference.
Also thanks to the users that described ways to be sure the screen is back in place correctly when reassembling. Definitely a fear of mine to have the balls come loose from the head while actively using the device. Good to know some techniques to reduce the chances of that. I bookmarked the posts for when I do decide to clean them.
Also thanks to the users that described ways to be sure the screen is back in place correctly when reassembling. Definitely a fear of mine to have the balls come loose from the head while actively using the device. Good to know some techniques to reduce the chances of that. I bookmarked the posts for when I do decide to clean them.
Somehow I must have missed that. Could you maybe tell me which technique that is?
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
For me turning it counterclockwise until it seats flat before turning it clockwise to catch the threads seems to work nearly all the time. It may take a couple tries. If the screen is not caught in the threads properly, you will likely dump your balls out when you go to empty and refill it. If you happen to reload in your hand (I don't) that will be an unpleasant discovery.
You also want to be certain that the screen is flat.
You also want to be certain that the screen is flat.
Anyone here with calipers able to verify some measurements for me on the Tempest? I believe the max diameter is 14mm and max overall height is 122mm, correct?
If that's the case I believe my long doob tubes would be a nice cheap air-tight container to store the tempest when not in use, but sadly I don't have access to one for testing since they're sold out (looks like an awesome vaporizer, I'd love to see how it compares to my Dynavap!)
If that's the case I believe my long doob tubes would be a nice cheap air-tight container to store the tempest when not in use, but sadly I don't have access to one for testing since they're sold out (looks like an awesome vaporizer, I'd love to see how it compares to my Dynavap!)
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Octavia
No thoughts, head empty
I use this technique, but every time I reinstall the screen I hold it upside down over a bowl and give it a few vigorous shakes to make sure it’s fully seated. Never had an issue before, but I don’t want to risk the burns.
Seinen
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Yes, 122mm and I have 141mm on heatshield. My tube from Revolve Gen2 from MH doesnt fit the Tempest though.
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OGablogian
AKA Probeer
Sure, I always consider every suggestion, wish, or complaint, then make adjustments for the next batch
General Disaster
Of cabbages and Kings.
Another useful tip (for klutz's like me, at least) is to take care of how many balls are in there and how well packed they are. If there are too many, or they haven't settled as much as they can, the extra height prevents the screen from engaging correctly with the cap's internal thread.
First time round changing balls and I kept finding I just could not get the screen to engage regardless of which direction I turned it. After removing about three balls (from memory - it certainly wasn't many) it immediately slotted into the threads perfectly!
Ensure you've given the head a good tapping to get the balls as settled as they can be (as the Bishop, yet again, said to the actress), as if not the case, and they settle afterwards, the screen may become loose and you want to make sure you only have your own balls in your lap! (I can't advise women I'm afraid, the innuendo's and pun's are already causing damage to the environment! Not that I'm qualified anyway).
First time round changing balls and I kept finding I just could not get the screen to engage regardless of which direction I turned it. After removing about three balls (from memory - it certainly wasn't many) it immediately slotted into the threads perfectly!
Ensure you've given the head a good tapping to get the balls as settled as they can be (as the Bishop, yet again, said to the actress), as if not the case, and they settle afterwards, the screen may become loose and you want to make sure you only have your own balls in your lap! (I can't advise women I'm afraid, the innuendo's and pun's are already causing damage to the environment! Not that I'm qualified anyway).
OGablogian
AKA Probeer
Any you might be able to already tell us aboutSure, I always consider every suggestion, wish, or complaint, then make adjustments for the next batch
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Anything that was mentioned at least a couple of times in the thread will probably be changed or improved.Any you might be able to already tell us about
Thanks for checking! I'm measuring 123mm height for the tubes, but 14mm for the diameter so that's too tight of a fit unfortunately.
I still sell my other case for the Tempest, it's just a bit bigger and more expensive to make, but it's odor proof.
I'd really love to pick up a Tempest for my own collection in the near future, it's such a beautiful vaporizer
Fearless Disaster
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Hi friends, my tempest arrives today! I have read through threads and the info on the mh site. I plan to use the wand almost exclusively and I have a couple of questions for the community.
What sort of initial cleaning or burnoff should I do? normally I'd do a bit of iso and water for a cleaning but I think some of these vapes need a burnoff?
I saw the 4 ways of using the wand on the mh site: timeout at a certain temperature, a hotter temp until a certain indicator appears, max temp until the click, or upside down until the visual indicator with no suggested temp provided. I am sure this comes down to personal prefererence. I have actually never used the wand before (bought for this). How long is the timeout on the wand? are we talking seconds or minutes?
Do all the methods produce equivalent results or do some give for example more evenly roasted avb? What sort of temp would I use for the visual indicator method?
I am guessing that counting flashes is more annoying than setting the tempest in until timeout / clock so unless timeout takes minutes that might be the first technique to try.
What sort of initial cleaning or burnoff should I do? normally I'd do a bit of iso and water for a cleaning but I think some of these vapes need a burnoff?
I saw the 4 ways of using the wand on the mh site: timeout at a certain temperature, a hotter temp until a certain indicator appears, max temp until the click, or upside down until the visual indicator with no suggested temp provided. I am sure this comes down to personal prefererence. I have actually never used the wand before (bought for this). How long is the timeout on the wand? are we talking seconds or minutes?
Do all the methods produce equivalent results or do some give for example more evenly roasted avb? What sort of temp would I use for the visual indicator method?
I am guessing that counting flashes is more annoying than setting the tempest in until timeout / clock so unless timeout takes minutes that might be the first technique to try.
HaggisHunter
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I gave mine a really good rinse with fresh iso, then a really good rinse with hot water and let it dry over a hot radiator.
You don't need to do that, you could dry with a paper towel then put it in the wand, heat up the head to get rid of the last bit of moisture in there, up to you.
As far as using with the wand, the easiest way to start with would probably be the wand temp 1.
So, load the bowl, set the temperature (which is a timer, not a direct correlation to actual temperature) and double click the large button, the heating chamber light will start flashing, just put the tempest in and wait till it says 'time over' on the screen - the heating chamber light will also turn off when the heating cycle is complete, so you don't need to look at the screen. I use mine upside down so nothing from the bowl can fall into the chamber with the balls, just helps keep it cleaner longer.
Using standard zirc balls, set the wand to 290c/550f, as I say let it heat till the cycle is complete.
One thing to note, adjust your breathing to start with, go slow/steady, too fast and you can burn the top of the bowl, too slow and it light not satisfy as it should.
Once your getting the hang of it your free to adjust the settings as needed. When using outside I up the temperature by 10-15c for the first heat up.
For subsequent bowls when the head is already hot, you don't need to heat for as long, so od suggest refilling, then heating to the middle mark on the visual indicator, hit it and see how it goes. If it's not cooked enough, go a little longer on the reheat with the rest next bowl, also, quicker you can empty and refill the bowl, less time it needs on the reheat.
Go slow, and increase gradually, once you learn it, it's a monster device, and there's so many options for setting up, you will find the perfect set-up.
I usually run the stem airport closed and the head airport about ¾ closed.
Oh yeah, as far as time goes, I think on a full heating cycle till time out, it's about 30-35 seconds.
Octavia
No thoughts, head empty
@HaggisHunter is pretty spot on with their advice, but I’d recommend giving all threads and connection points a brushing as well, especially if brand new. Some folks had issues with machining dust/burrs stuck in threads that iso + burnoffs didn’t properly remove.
Fearless Disaster
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My Tempest came in! Since MH is out of stems and in the UK I had them mail it to Glass Charlie
Plus I got a factory second reload! one of the section colors was off but i prefer to use it like this anyway.Time to roast the first one!
Update: This thing is amazing! I've got the bowl in the 1/2 screen position. I'm using the wand at 550 till timeout and the avb is just where i like it. With the wand and spacer this thing is basically foolproof. Thank you all for your help!
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Dirigible_Molecule
Member
Greetings, I just grabbed what seems to be the last Wood Tempest second, for the week anyway.
I have many Dyna and Dani alongside many other VAS consequences
and wanted to try MH but have managed to miss the regular stock often.. age brings me the attention span of a gnat.
So expect some daft questions from me.
I have many Dyna and Dani alongside many other VAS consequences
and wanted to try MH but have managed to miss the regular stock often.. age brings me the attention span of a gnat.So expect some daft questions from me.
General Disaster
Of cabbages and Kings.
I'm only capable of daft answers, so you're in the best place to ask!