The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie

[dtrdrk]

I have been using this thing for two months now and still love it. Half bowl with 520 on the wand and fully open airflow gives me perfect extraction with coffee brown abv. I never use the body though. Much prefer a wpa as i always go through water.

Does anyone know if this decapper fits the tempest?

Dynavap Decapper Stand( Armored Cap and other caps)

The YLL DynaVap Decapper Stand will help you to easily remove your hot DynaVap Cap without any effort. Just place in magnet and slide. The cap will stay trapped and the VapCap can easily be removed leaving the cap behind. Place VapCap in Cap and slide back to middle. The YLL DynaVap Decapper...

yllvape.com

 

[jbm]

What's the airflow on your cap set to? I use a Prophet (rip off) and I am happy with the extraction but I have the cap airflow only partially open and I kind of pepper the breath but that's my technique.

Whatever the default setting is. I haven’t adjusted the cap airflow at all.

 

[TedJones]

heat retention on my device. I've got around 43 3mm zirconia balls

Along with Yogi’s good suggestions, could always try a 5-10 sec re-heat with the torch after pull 2 or 3, if anything is left in there. Sic balls may interest you as well

 

[Brenyo]

@Brenyo Will the VI piece itself be available for purchase as a separate item for those that might want to try custom coloring just that bit?
Corollary, will the VI coil be available as a separate purchase in case one damages, loses, or misplaces it?

Not initially, but both will be available later.

I've got around 43 3mm zirconia balls in mine and the heat retention isn't impressing me. I heat with both the wand and a torch. Does anyone know if the 2.5 mm zirconia balls retain heat a bit longer?

I'd recommend cubic zirconia stones in 3mm size


Tempest cleaning box should be available again soon

https://imgur.com/a/YZFBR4z

 

[666Honeybadger]

Pretty dissapointed with the heat retention on my device. I've got around 43 3mm zirconia balls in mine and the heat retention isn't impressing me. I heat with both the wand and a torch. Does anyone know if the 2.5 mm zirconia balls retain heat a bit longer?

I've only used it with the balls that came with it (2,5mm) but i've got no complaints regarding heat retention. Always do full bowls, wand till time out (330c). I never had to reheat a bowl to get full extraction (with weed, full bowl of hash i go for a second cycle if necessary).

Feels like the vapor runs out before the heat does, sometimes makes me wonder if it's capable of clearing a slightly larger bowl.

@TheScamericann any idea how long it stays in vaping-temp-range when casually hitting it?

 

[shadymilkman]

The variety of airflows in this device are incredible but can lead to a learning curve that might take longer to discover and master. The heat though should outlast the deep bowl setting.. the height of the heat source on the cap might be a variable, there are times that the VI might react to differently depending on where the heat is emanating from.

 

[Oden]

Will this vape be released one day?
Or I still have time to wait until the flood

 

[TheScamericann]

The ball size does change the performance and heat retention but its less about the size of the balls and more about how you are using them. If you have a open airflow and breath deep, the heat retention is reduced and the smaller ball size will feel like it has slightly longer heat retention.

I find it more effective to slow down your breathing or close the airflow on the cap, as both of those techniques increase the length of time the device is at optimal temperature and increase the density of the vapour.

I took your advice and slowed my draw down and i'm now getting much better heat retention. Thanks

 

[Octavia]

Will this vape be released one day?
Or I still have time to wait until the flood

Still in process, most recent updates were on April 5th (page 187) with a release date of Soon(tm):

As soon as possible, I'd rather not guess wrong again. The new version of the steel parts are even more challenging to manufacture than the titanium parts so it takes some time to finish (and it doesn't help that the Chinese are on a holiday again...)

 

[ToatsOats]

So when I was using the tempest, the screen holding the balls somehow stopped fitting flush within the tempest head and doesnt screw in anymore. I had all my balls spill out when I was in a session. Does anyone know where I can get some spare zirconium balls and a spare ball screen for the tempest?

 

[kegstandman420]

So when I was using the tempest, the screen holding the balls somehow stopped fitting flush within the tempest head and doesnt screw in anymore. I had all my balls spill out when I was in a session. Does anyone know where I can get some spare zirconium balls and a spare ball screen for the tempest?

The ball screen you may have to get off mh site. If you still have it I saw a video you can smash it down with a glass or soda can Maybe. I got glass 3mm off vgoodies. They have zrc also and are running a 420 sale. Super fast shipping.

 

[ToatsOats]

The ball screen you may have to get off mh site. If you still have it I saw a video you can smash it down with a glass or soda can Maybe. I got glass 3mm off vgoodies. They have zrc also and are running a 420 sale. Super fast shipping.

Ill probably get the zrc off vgoodiez. I had a question though, would it be possible to get something like this if it is the same size and put it in the tempest head to hold the balls? I just dont want to wait just for the screen to come from the UK. https://www.amazon.com/Premium-Stainless-Concave-Pipe-Screens/dp/B07CJWV8W2/ref=sr_1_11?crid=3V1DZ2V5QWT5E&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.0ZxwoPpQhgCdTtSx2PQ9_0yv462Ipotx8-4YG7tZArHC2xucw7saUCKqSTjaeTlV58_qdsEn4W7-EjZnlTmCMRcSVaDXRfGxAGerGRBnokW9-go7m8e8NxAnkgtyPCog0BhmCZCdTEUGuYOFfBzsBP1qbJ8NMn4IIXDJLN5do_P5rIuniidrE4b_8wI1dWmEsXmU8lZjPMGEK7T2F8UH27GBIhm0eBGkYeohCMyZxk5XhaiP7iG4rag8hks1-XwbaI0FBFo0x2PM8jzPT8r0Fi5aay83rd8IKlOP8KJlqHQ.YKPXL-3tjssoTIr9Jsu9dmzY153VQ5gdqsTrevWImIE&dib_tag=se&keywords=pipe+screen+solid&qid=1713318497&s=hpc&sprefix=pipe+screen+soli,hpc,141&sr=1-11

or something like this too

Amazon.com

 

[TedJones]

Ill probably get the zrc off vgoodiez. I had a question though, would it be possible to get something like this if it is the same size and put it in the tempest head to hold the balls? I just dont want to wait just for the screen to come from the UK. https://www.amazon.com/Premium-Stainless-Concave-Pipe-Screens/dp/B07CJWV8W2/ref=sr_1_11?crid=3V1DZ2V5QWT5E&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.0ZxwoPpQhgCdTtSx2PQ9_0yv462Ipotx8-4YG7tZArHC2xucw7saUCKqSTjaeTlV58_qdsEn4W7-EjZnlTmCMRcSVaDXRfGxAGerGRBnokW9-go7m8e8NxAnkgtyPCog0BhmCZCdTEUGuYOFfBzsBP1qbJ8NMn4IIXDJLN5do_P5rIuniidrE4b_8wI1dWmEsXmU8lZjPMGEK7T2F8UH27GBIhm0eBGkYeohCMyZxk5XhaiP7iG4rag8hks1-XwbaI0FBFo0x2PM8jzPT8r0Fi5aay83rd8IKlOP8KJlqHQ.YKPXL-3tjssoTIr9Jsu9dmzY153VQ5gdqsTrevWImIE&dib_tag=se&keywords=pipe+screen+solid&qid=1713318497&s=hpc&sprefix=pipe+screen+soli,hpc,141&sr=1-11

or something like this too

Amazon.com

The first one's are too big at 1/2" and second for Dynas are too small. The 9.5/10mm bowl screen would also be too small. A possible patch might be a 3/8" mesh. It should be just a bit too big to "screw" in, therefore you'd form it in a dome, and work it into place underneath the threads. Did this with another vape HERE (1/2" mesh in this).

Took a long time and poker to the edges to get it set in place to where I have no doubts about it. Will need prying out, ha! Just a thought.

 

[VapingYogi]

I took your advice and slowed my draw down and i'm now getting much better heat retention. Thanks

Glad to hear it.

I'd recommend cubic zirconia stones in 3mm size

This is my go to setup; no matter what I try I come back to this setup each time.

 

[kokolokokolokon]

This is my go to setup; no matter what I try I come back to this setup each time.

Cubic zirc? no balls? should i try it? for science?

 

[Brenyo]

I've ordered the thicker ball screens for the release, hopefully it won't delay things much.

 

[VapingYogi]

Cubic zirc? no balls? should i try it? for science?

*laughing* I have used no balls! I forgot to put them in the cap and started heating it... I only realised it was empty because the balls that were in my lap fell on the floor.

I also tried gem cut rubies earlier today when I was cleaning everything for giggles - not my pick for this device.

I stopped swapping gems (unless its for a specific test). I prefer 3mm Zrc's over all the other things I have tried in the Tempest.

I like the way boro (2.5mm is my preference) takes the heat quickly and releases it instantly, but the Zrc's are able to maintain the temperature longer allowing for the stronger effects.

 

[ljstavy]

I've ordered the thicker ball screens for the release, hopefully it won't delay things much.

appreciate this! thinner screens will be easier to bend/dent a thicker ball screen will ensure it screws into place and stays securely since a thicker screen cant be bent/damaged as easily.

edit: @Brenyo so how much thicker will the new screens be?

 

[gosta]

@Brenyo Are you going to be restocking the Revolve, or is the Tempest replacing it?

 

[Brenyo]

edit: @Brenyo so how much thicker will the new screens be?

The plan was to go from 0.2 to 0.25, but I’ve realised there’s a more secure option with the current screen, so I might cancel it…

I always installed the screen to hold the balls in place so they don’t rattle. However, if you screw it slightly further after removing 1 or 2 balls, it will reach the end of the thread where you can tighten it without bending it and making it eventually come loose. The downside is that the balls will rattle, but it definitely stays in place.

@Brenyo Are you going to be restocking the Revolve, or is the Tempest replacing it?

The Tempest is replacing it

 

[ljstavy]

The plan was to go from 0.2 to 0.25, but I’ve realised there’s a more secure option with the current screen, so I might cancel it…

I always installed the screen to hold the balls in place so they don’t rattle. However, if you screw it slightly further after removing 1 or 2 balls, it will reach the end of the thread where you can tighten it without bending it and making it eventually come loose. The downside is that the balls will rattle, but it definitely stays in place.


The Tempest is replacing it

i can picture it in my head what ya mean it makes total sense since the screen goes further into the threads basically like you are saying locking it in place if I'm correct? so will the number of balls be adjusted for final release or will i have to remove a ball or two. I don't mind rattling since in a way this device will be used at my computer desk so rattling isn't an issue as long as the screen is fully secure!

when screwing the screen in with the threads there isn't any way for the screen to get bent while tightening or losening right? I'm used to dynavap ccds that like need a concave to work well but also end up getting deformed. i know with this ball screen it being perfectly flat guarantees better connection to the threads.

 

[TedJones]

Good to hear that won’t hold up progress any further When switching out mine, I’ve done exactly the same by making sure the highest point of any top ball(s), don’t exceed the lowest point of the threading. Screw in snug all the way down. One of the little fins always seems to bend slightly, but that’s where the threads start I do have bit of rattlesnake sound if giggled

 

[Sunny]

I'm not sure if this is the right place, but does anyone know if this dyna stem would work with the tempest? https://vapefiend.co.uk/products/hydravong-stem-62mm

It's on sale so was considering getting one.

 

[cybrguy]

I'm not sure if this is the right place, but does anyone know if this dyna stem would work with the tempest? https://vapefiend.co.uk/products/hydravong-stem-62mm

It's on sale so was considering getting one.

It should work fine. It doesn't provide any cooling on its own, but it is a vong meant to be used on glass. For the Tempest head, if you intend to hit it directly without putting it on some kind of cooling device, I personally think you need to have some kind of cooling in the stem because the Tempest runs very hot...

 

[Sunny]

It should work fine. It doesn't provide any cooling on its own, but it is a vong meant to be used on glass. For the Tempest head, if you intend to hit it directly without putting it on some kind of cooling device, I personally think you need to have some kind of cooling in the stem because the Tempest runs very hot...

Do you think the tempest cooling unit could be used as a mouthpiece to add cooling?