The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie
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simba
@weedanwine
Good question.Mine just hit US soil.
Anything I need to know? What kind of grind are you guys using?
The anticipation is physically painful.
Can anyone confirm if you can put a small nug into the Tempest and get a complete extraction from it? I can do that with the TA and if I squish the bud after vaping it's evenly vaped through the bud.
Timps27
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VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
I am looking forwards to the final parts and temperature control but don't let that fool you...That Dynavap won't see the light of day as soon.as the Tempest arrives
I have packed away all my dynavaps
I also put away my Freight Train Pro as in my testing, the same amount of herb in the FT Pro as the Tempest, the FT Pro can still leave a green ring or at least spots at the bottom that if I stir I get another hit from but in the Tempest not so much.
and one of my Anvils is packed away...
haven't tried but I will if I can find a bud that isn't so dense that it would just block the airflow completely, I'll give it a try soon
Misterhyde
Well-Known Member
I haven't received my Tempest yet and I'm already starting to regret recent purchases. I probably could have held out and got another Tempest. Oh well, I guess people have worse problems than this.
VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
Have you tried using the direct tube instead of the helix tube?
A week before I found the Tempest a I bought a Simrell MVS and I have used it maybe 3 times.... I haven't even put the Tempest bowl/cap on it because I like the Tempest one so much.. that kills me the most, the MVS and Tip that just doesn't get used and is new... really annoying...
I literally have more dynavaps than I will count - of which I think I am going to give away all the M's in a little giveway in the medical cannabis group I am in because it will be fun having a bunch of smokers trying to figure out a dynavap
If I had found the Tempest in September I would have saved (my girlfriend) a lot of money.
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BushRanger
Hit It & Quit It
simba
@weedanwine
It's nice to have a stock though
things break, or it gives you the ability to help someone in need. Also as they say, variety is the spice of life 
I understand the want for minimal setups, but as someone who collects records and has a music studio. The space my vape stuff takes up is negligible in comparison.
VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
I have to admit I am finding it hard holding back
I want the one that is "portable" or for watching tv on the couch to have a small footprint.. but my collection of vapes is smaller than my girlfriends gaming collection by a very long shot thoughtIt's nice to have a stock though
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I was trying to explain that temperature, technique and tolerance have more impact than vape signature on the effects obtained from a device, and that comparing the effects of different devices is subjective and too variable for any particular definition of their relative feelings. And the father of "vape signature" himself said that "the differences are effected most by strain, then by temp, and finally then by the vape's signature".@bhasma I found this quote from another thread but is this the sort of thing you where trying to explain in your previous posts? That is temperature is the most important factor for the subjective experiences people talk about with regards to "body stone" or "cerebral effects" from a "science" point of view & that convection vs conduction doesn't matter so much as the ability for the device to be able to bring all the herbs in the bowl to the desired temperature?
I've been running my Tempest "hotter" 340c until timeout and then managing the temperature using my breath. I find the extraction is more complete and the colour is probably where you want it, but the flavour has gone, so you swap flavour for the extraction quaility if you're trying to clear a bowl in a single heat (with full extraction). The only thing is that subjectively I am not really experiencing anything different (other than flavour).
Keen to hear your thoughts?
REF: Cannabinoid boiling point chart.
** I just want to mention I borrowed this from a thread from by @Vapvana and felt it might be useful here for this discussion, there is more information there, I just wanted to borrow this to confirm if I understood @bhasma's explanation's in regards to the Tempest
I wasn't considering taste here, but in the Vape Signature thread I certainly noted that heating methods and timing can affect the flavour.
The vapour pressure of each compound at different temperatures is far more important than boiling points, and most tables give the boiling temperature of cannabinoids in a near vacuum, which is unrealistic. At normal atmospheric pressure the boiling point for THC is actually around 425°C, and for CBD nearly 465°C, and degradation occurs before reaching those temperatures.
VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
Appreciate you trying to explain it in more detail mate, just trying to understand your language use to better explain things myself in future.
Separately…
I realise most of my bowls are done with latent heat as I tend to do multiple back to back bowls, I decided to catch 4 bowls in a row just for interest sake.
Not yet but i willl.
Thank you very much.
I've always been advised not to hold back, when it comes out, it comes out.I have to admit I am finding it hard holding back
VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
I was being really cautious when I did this as as I never vape whole buds - but - I might start to now… its definitely easier than grinding for a quick small bowl
I give up… I’ll post the video in a few minutes
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simba
@weedanwine
I actually hate using a grinder, so vapes that I don't need to grind get higher usage from me. I generally pick the weed apart by hand to load Lotus or Supreme. But with TA go straight in with a small nug.
I'm going to guess the Tempest will deal with small nugs in the same way, don't see any reason why not but would be great if someone can confirm.
I'm going to guess the Tempest will deal with small nugs in the same way, don't see any reason why not but would be great if someone can confirm.
VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
waiting for the video to upload of me doing just that
I'd say it's about 80-90% coming through the hot vapour.
Yes, that's right.
yes
You should've vaped it off from the balls
If you use the glass cup & wand upside down then it works, otherwise it's too deep for the DV.
No and I'm working on a new one that has a debowler and screwdriver included.
Mesh, just good quality. Those screens let through too much gunk in my opinion.
Yeah it works the same
VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
I broke Imgur but it works fine vaping while nugs and in fact I’m going to do that in a pinch now.
simba
@weedanwine
Cheers! So hyped for the release
VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
Since finding this thread - and the Tempest - I have logged into this thread at least 15 times a day, commented with questions or ideas for going on at least 6 weeks - I honestly haven’t been this excited for something since I was in my 30s and had VIP Tool tickets in each capital city around Australia in a two week period.
I am really enjoying my test kit and am excited for the release, wood sleeve, smokey glass, leather case with decapper… I’m looking forward to having 2 (yes greedy) so that I can back to back without testing the calluses on my fingers
I have been playing around with not grinding, I rarely did this in the past as each time I was told it was doable, I would block the airflow, I was please to see it wasn't the case, it worked really well actually, was like a pre-made dosing capsule
I like it. I am thinking of making a couple of little moonrocks and seeing how much of a mess I make in the stem using something like that
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BushRanger
Hit It & Quit It
Happy Sunday everyone!
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
Thanks, i'll make some units especially designed for the Tempest soon. And when the official release is here with all the colors to choose from, I could make the parchment cases in matching colors.
I am anxious to see what @Brenyo comes up with but all things being equal, I love this parchment design by @Duba
Very cool...
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Thanks!
Try to push the heat shield onto the o-ring as far as it goes so it doesn't wiggle around. You might want to slightly lube the o-ring on the inner finned sleeve if it won't go on easily otherwise.
Smknbud
Well-Known Member
I've been putting some Blueberry Muffin Moonrocks in the Tempest sandwiched between flower. It's so tasty and worth the little extra cleaning required.