Sour Dream
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Seems like it’s time for a separate shipping thread like other vapes have
The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie
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VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
I agree - lets keep it elsewhere and focus on the vape
HaggisHunter
Well-Known Member
Howdy folks, been keeping an eye and ear on the tempest for what seems like a lifetime now, finally remembered/worked out my password for the forum, was trying to reset it ages ago but only just noticed the other day that outlook accounts aren't working with the forum, why I never got my password reset email.....
Anyway, started playing catch up on the thread a few days ago and finally fully read up, just as excited for it as I was months ago if not more.
It's been an enjoyable read so far.
Really like what I've been reading from those that have the device, it sounds like it's exactly what I want. Been using dynavaps for ages and been a supporter of mad since I got the gen 1 just after the initial release.
been on the lookout for a hard hitting device for ages but never spent money on one as there's always something that puts me off, be it a handheld that's just too big to carry around, or a mains unit that needs heated in advance /left powered on etc and as a result, have ended up buying nothing.
Of late my go to has been a 5fin dyna tip with an armoured cap and some extra metal under the CCD to hold the heat for longer, run through a revolve gen 2 stem, it absolutely chucks the clouds out, but I'm after something that's a good step up.
I think that the tempest could be exactly what I'm after.
Really looking forward to the release, it looks mega, love the look of it, looks like a sonic screwdriver from Dr Who HAHA.
I think I'll be going for the standard raaw version and doing my own anodising, because of the different elements and sections, there's a lot that could be done with this I think. If I can afford it I might need more than one to start with so I can do some experimenting with colours.
Good reading all your comments, have a good one folks!
Anyway, started playing catch up on the thread a few days ago and finally fully read up, just as excited for it as I was months ago if not more.
It's been an enjoyable read so far.
Really like what I've been reading from those that have the device, it sounds like it's exactly what I want. Been using dynavaps for ages and been a supporter of mad since I got the gen 1 just after the initial release.
been on the lookout for a hard hitting device for ages but never spent money on one as there's always something that puts me off, be it a handheld that's just too big to carry around, or a mains unit that needs heated in advance /left powered on etc and as a result, have ended up buying nothing.
Of late my go to has been a 5fin dyna tip with an armoured cap and some extra metal under the CCD to hold the heat for longer, run through a revolve gen 2 stem, it absolutely chucks the clouds out, but I'm after something that's a good step up.
I think that the tempest could be exactly what I'm after.
Really looking forward to the release, it looks mega, love the look of it, looks like a sonic screwdriver from Dr Who HAHA.
I think I'll be going for the standard raaw version and doing my own anodising, because of the different elements and sections, there's a lot that could be done with this I think. If I can afford it I might need more than one to start with so I can do some experimenting with colours.
Good reading all your comments, have a good one folks!
Thanks man! I'll give that setting a try tonight
Fromthesticks
New Member
have any of the testers been running it with direct airflow w the spiral? whats the heat like? comparable to armoured cap? more interested in those whome ride the line/aim for 1 hit extracts.
Welcome mate. I can confirm it's a big step up from Dynavap. I'm someone who loved the ease of use, portability, workflow of the Dynavap. I was a day one Dynavap user since the first glass model, and owned Omni's and Simrell stems etc.
I ended up selling my Dynas couple years back as the small bowl size, and inability to fully extract in a single heat cycle put me off. It just became a chore.
Tempest is that Dyva package except with the performance of a heavy hitter. Has same easy workflow, ease of cleaning, versatility etc. I'm a month into the so called honeymoon and I still love it.
Jojofernz
Well-Known Member
Just wanted to ask a question for y’all that have had the opportunity to use it, but with all the crazy customization in terms of airflow, curious how the flavor is on the Tempest?
One of the biggest complaints I hear about the reload is it mutes the flavor despite all the cooling.
Since the tempest uses balls and is convection, flavor should still be there or does the airflow options take it away some?
One of the biggest complaints I hear about the reload is it mutes the flavor despite all the cooling.
Since the tempest uses balls and is convection, flavor should still be there or does the airflow options take it away some?
VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
In the scenario no one does, when the postal service decides to deliver it I can compare against most dynavap configs
The Direct flow tube is more for using with glass pieces, as it bypass the primary cooling system in the stem. So If using native you would likely be using the Helix tube.
If you are actually refering to an airflow setting, I have tried it native using the two main airflow settings ("Open" & "Bypass") and the vapour is comfortable even when doing RTL hits, even while feathering carb hole. I don't have secondary cooling spiral either, which would increase cooling further.
Also to note you said "those who aim for 1hit extracts" the Tempest extracts in a single cycle, and doesn't really need any special technique for this. It just has so much calories/heat capacity when up to temp. It would be hard not to fully extract in a cycle from my experience. You would have to choose to stop hitting it, due to being too high I guess. In which case you could finish the bowl at a later time.
The flavour shocked me. My expectations were low due to experience with Dynavap and Anvil, but it's tasty imo. I think it even tastes good at higher temps. It gives the impression that the herb is isolated enough during heat up to protect from a conduction effect cooking off the terps.
I'm not using the secondary cooling spiral, so I don't know how adding the spiral would affect taste (probably diminish it). I can't experiment as I wasn't sent the spiral. Hopefully other users who just got theirs can experiment and chime in.
Even though Tempest has the form factor of an Anvil /Dyna it's important to note that it functions completely differently. Just the fact that the tip (heat battery) is not wrapped around the herb creates a very different affect. Tempest has more in common with a B0 or sticky Brick than the aforementioned vapes when discussing flavour imo.
I mentioned the flavour in my review on page 24 if you are interested.
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leanpubpackage
Well-Known Member
Is this a custom size? Trying to see if my standard screens would fit but looks to fall in between a 3/8” and 1/2” mesh
It is
fangorn
Well-Known Member
Hello @Brenyo
I received the baguette today... obviously
I also put the helix tube back on, I didn't intend to miss out on passage through the cooling system
I especially heard about you for your cooling system... that would be a shame!
for the installation of the silicone and the glass insert, actually, it is not very complex...
I left the glass flush at the bottom red seal. it's correct?
actually, you can see the indicator when you hold the Wand upside down/on its side...
I'm going to get started...
and thank you @RedZep for sharing your "best settings". These are the ones I was aiming for! very cool...
but actually, there are so many settings options that the possibilities are endless... not infinite obviously but too many for me
2 more thoughts...
the vaporizer is so light... every time I pick it up, my brain has to get used to it.
and the other point is a compliment. there are plenty of options and mechanics to play with. I was a little afraid that these were gadgets that weren't necessarily perfectly designed (sorry!)... but we're very far from that!
each mechanism is very, very well thought out and beautifully made...
I really respect and love this work.
another “well done”
I received the baguette today... obviously
I also put the helix tube back on, I didn't intend to miss out on passage through the cooling system
I especially heard about you for your cooling system... that would be a shame!
for the installation of the silicone and the glass insert, actually, it is not very complex...
I left the glass flush at the bottom red seal. it's correct?
actually, you can see the indicator when you hold the Wand upside down/on its side...
I'm going to get started...
and thank you @RedZep for sharing your "best settings". These are the ones I was aiming for! very cool...
but actually, there are so many settings options that the possibilities are endless... not infinite obviously but too many for me
2 more thoughts...
the vaporizer is so light... every time I pick it up, my brain has to get used to it.
and the other point is a compliment. there are plenty of options and mechanics to play with. I was a little afraid that these were gadgets that weren't necessarily perfectly designed (sorry!)... but we're very far from that!
each mechanism is very, very well thought out and beautifully made...
I really respect and love this work.
another “well done”
Now the fun really begins!Hello @Brenyo
I received the baguette today... obviously
I also put the helix tube back on, I didn't intend to miss out on passage through the cooling system
I especially heard about you for your cooling system... that would be a shame!
for the installation of the silicone and the glass insert, actually, it is not very complex...
I left the glass flush at the bottom red seal. it's correct?
actually, you can see the indicator when you hold the Wand upside down/on its side...
I'm going to get started...
and thank you @RedZep for sharing your "best settings". These are the ones I was aiming for! very cool...
but actually, there are so many settings options that the possibilities are endless... not infinite obviously but too many for me
2 more thoughts...
the vaporizer is so light... every time I pick it up, my brain has to get used to it.
and the other point is a compliment. there are plenty of options and mechanics to play with. I was a little afraid that these were gadgets that weren't necessarily perfectly designed (sorry!)... but we're very far from that!
each mechanism is very, very well thought out and beautifully made...
I really respect and love this work.
another “well done”
So its my favourite setting so far, using flower and doing joint puffs. Need to test that setting with big DTL hits. I think it will be fine. I can tell I'm going to have favourite settings for different scenarios.
The options might seem daunting at first, but once you have a setting you like, you have that home base so to speak. Then you can just incrementally try different settings as you experiment.
I think once I try different stems I will have a favourite stem for each use case also
leanpubpackage
Well-Known Member
This looks awesome. The best pairing of a vape with the wand that I have seen so far. Looks like a perfect fit with super reasonable heat up times. Thanks for sharingHello @Brenyo
I received the baguette today... obviously
I also put the helix tube back on, I didn't intend to miss out on passage through the cooling system
I especially heard about you for your cooling system... that would be a shame!
for the installation of the silicone and the glass insert, actually, it is not very complex...
I left the glass flush at the bottom red seal. it's correct?
actually, you can see the indicator when you hold the Wand upside down/on its side...
I'm going to get started...
and thank you @RedZep for sharing your "best settings". These are the ones I was aiming for! very cool...
but actually, there are so many settings options that the possibilities are endless... not infinite obviously but too many for me
2 more thoughts...
the vaporizer is so light... every time I pick it up, my brain has to get used to it.
and the other point is a compliment. there are plenty of options and mechanics to play with. I was a little afraid that these were gadgets that weren't necessarily perfectly designed (sorry!)... but we're very far from that!
each mechanism is very, very well thought out and beautifully made...
I really respect and love this work.
another “well done”
LMAO I'm imaging using this thing in the mirror while taking puffs to ride the temp indicator.
HumbleLivings
Well-Known Member
Your Tempest looks very nice and sharp!,
Does the Tempest come with Zirconia Balls?
or Boro?
Does that metal screen stay on firmly (how does screen stay on? whats holding it on?)
thanks for sharing
Jojofernz
Well-Known Member
Thank you thank you thank you for this reply.
This is why I want this vape. People wanna say why bother when there is anvil/fusion, etc. out there but this is gonna be the first handheld ball vape with working indicators that I know of.
I haven’t had plug in ball vapes but have had some torch-driven ones and man the flavor and high from that stuff is what I am all about when it comes to vaping.
Don’t get me wrong, conduction heavy and other vapes are great but there’s something about that hot air doing the work for me, that makes it feel real special.
Anyway, this is what I wanted to hear. Next step is convincing the fiancé my Christmas gift is a vape. Can’t wait til full release!!
Comes with Zirconia standard. Held in by a specially purposed screen that screws into place. I have the old test version that just holds them in place with a normal screen. Balls are secure even in my early version. So I imagine they will be extra secure with the screw in screen.
You can also remove the screen and swap out the balls for a different material.
BuddBuddly
Member
Are you guys soaking the cap in ISO? Do you keep the balls in? How long do you let it dry out before using if so? (I do know to take off the green o rings)
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Zasquatch
https://z-stems.com
I iso’d the stem and bowl, but I’m just gonna do a burn off for the cap.
Everything except the (green?) radiator washer on the stem should be ISO safe iirc
HumbleLivings
Well-Known Member
ohh thats really cool to have a screen that securely screws ball screen in place, I did not know this thanks
I am glad it comes with Zirconia balls, I ordered some 2.5mm rubies to test those out with Tempest as well
I love doing different testing to see what I will enjoy more, its really fun to do all the testing tbh
and I am looking forward to it haha, thanks for your valuable input brother!
