Discontinued The Sublimator
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jambandphan03
in flavor country
after about a week of use... keep in mind I am using mostly flowers and a little bit of bubble hash here and there.
Elluzion
Vapeosaurus Rex
Wow just read through this entire thread and am I craving a sublimation session! Anyone have one in the north bay california that would be willing to let me try 
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I am ready to spring for a high end vape, and now I am stuck between a cloud and this guy. AHHH, they're like the same price too. I DONT KNOW AH!
...I am ready to spring for a high end vape, and now I am stuck between a cloud and this guy. AHHH, they're like the same price too. I DONT KNOW AH!
VapeNStone
Mark
Wow just read through this entire thread and am I craving a sublimation session! Anyone have one in the north bay california that would be willing to let me try
I am ready to spring for a high end vape, and now I am stuck between a cloud and this guy. AHHH, they're like the same price too. I DONT KNOW AH!
I live in Northern Cali
But I only own a cloud ATM. I would really love to also try the Sub
weedemon
enthusiast
you boys and girls should get one. be careful though! one fuck of a burn on my forearm, but the sub is still the vape im using! only my solo has been used once because I needed portability. all other vapes are on standby. 
my summary of the cloud vs sub
taste: cloud wins
choking full spectrum extraction (- some of the flavour) = sub wins.
durability: sub wins (even though it's so new haha the track record of the clouds reliability speaks to this for me)
safety: cloud wins. (sub = ouch in weedemons books!)
my summary of the cloud vs sub
taste: cloud wins
choking full spectrum extraction (- some of the flavour) = sub wins.
durability: sub wins (even though it's so new haha the track record of the clouds reliability speaks to this for me)
safety: cloud wins. (sub = ouch in weedemons books!)
Elluzion
Vapeosaurus Rex
you boys and girls should get one. be careful though! one fuck of a burn on my forearm, but the sub is still the vape im using! only my solo has been used once because I needed portability. all other vapes are on standby.
my summary of the cloud vs sub
taste: cloud wins
choking full spectrum extraction (- some of the flavour) = sub wins.
durability: sub wins (even though it's so new haha the track record of the clouds reliability speaks to this for me)
safety: cloud wins. (sub = ouch in weedemons books!)
Yeah i do like the safety of the cloud cuz lets just say i am not the best around hot things, but i like how quick and simple the sub is.. Looks like a great 1 hitter..
The only issue is i dont have a nice piece of glass or any glass in fact to run this through ( i would want the adaptabong). I usually vape dry.but i do love glass hits too.. Any ideas? Or cheap alternatives, or donations
ha...
jambandphan03
in flavor country
do we need to start a cloud vs sub thread?? 
I've also been using the Sub exclusively since getting it. No burns yet, just gotta watch your space, and pay attention.
I've also been using the Sub exclusively since getting it. No burns yet, just gotta watch your space, and pay attention.
that herb guy
Well-Known Member
Yeah i do like the safety of the cloud cuz lets just say i a not the best around hot things, but i like how quick and simple the sub is.. Looks like a great 1 hitter..
The only issue is i dont have a nice piece of glass or any glass in fact to run this through ( i would want the adaptabong). I usually vape dry.but i do love glass hits too.. Any ideas? Or cheap alternatives, or donations
I guess it depends on your interpretation of cheap. I've just been browsing for a simple stemless natural perc tube. Found one on Ioffer for ~120, looks like it would work well with an adapter/AC on it to collect oil.
(http://www.ioffer.com/i/18-50mm-x-7mm-stemless-water-pipe-boro-glass-520017559)
Edit: Oh shit! didn't even realize that was Jhan until I scrolled further down. He's got his own thread on here somewhere.
VapeNStone
Mark
Where is the perc in that design? Does it not have one?
that herb guy
Well-Known Member
Nope, I assume since that poster said they usually take dry hits, a perc was unnecessary and would just add expense. There is also a 45deg straight tube (not stemless) with no perc for $75 (I'm browsing around still). That with a 45 deg ashcatch would be a pretty cheap, larger volume (~14") piece. And at 7mm, sounds like could handle the weight of the sub OK. Just need to make sure that AC joint is strong.
VapeNStone
Mark
That is too much IMHO for a percless piece. That first piece shouldn't be more than $80 and that second piece should be $40 tops. Once again IMHO. I didn't make them so I can't make the decision on what to charge for them, but I have bought lots of bongs in my career lol and I know what they are worth. I saw a really nice honey comb bong really thick in the headshop the other day for $80. IDK who this Jhan person is but I don't his glass is worth much more than the others I've seen. Looks well made but to simple for the price IMHO.
poonman
Well-Known Member
Ya I like that one ,
I feel the same way about the percs , it may be too much dilution to taste .
I figure I can save the $ 250 diff . with the AAB kit and get my own tube/bong made of glass .
Is that the only diff. you get between the AAB kit and the Entire kit for $ 750 ?
or is there electrical stuff also ?
tia
that herb guy
Well-Known Member
I don't set prices, but I figure most pieces in the price range you are talking about are 4-5mm. If it wasn't 7, I would be saying the same. There are many blowers on here who I am sure would work out a negotiated price over PM's
.And honestly if you're going retail unless you are getting a deal or there is a sale, I'd expect to pay about 100 locally for a straight tube, no perc. Would probably come with a downstem, but with the sub it wouldn't be used anyway.
It may be cheaper to buy the bundle, or most cost effective I have not researched the glass/pieces that come with the sub honestly. Most of my interest is in that apollo piece.
poonman
Well-Known Member
I think the tube it comes with , is Not made of glass .
If that's the only diff . between the 2 kits ?
Plus I already have a bubbler/percs that may fit it , that's all .
But is there other gear too , I get with the $ 750 kit ? besides the tube ...
jambandphan03
in flavor country
So, I am back to using a double screen in my Sub. For a few daze, I had just the fine mesh screen in there, and it seemed to me that the hits were just not milking up as well as they should have been, so when I went to clean the screen, I put the thicker, stock screen with the holes back in, and then the fine mesh on top of that to keep everything in the bowl when I tap out the load. (long ass sentence) Now I am getting the super dense milky hits again. What I think is happening, the stock screen is thicker metal, and retaining more heat than the mesh alone, giving better results, and faster too. It seemed to take a couple of seconds to get the milky vapor to start up when it was just the mesh screen alone. Now it's just instant milk again with the stock screen in there. I do think the fine mesh is helping filter the debris from the sublimate oil that is building up below. It looks pretty clean to me. The fine mesh screen does require more regular cleaning though to keep the air flow good.
) Now I am getting the super dense milky hits again. What I think is happening, the stock screen is thicker metal, and retaining more heat than the mesh alone, giving better results, and faster too. It seemed to take a couple of seconds to get the milky vapor to start up when it was just the mesh screen alone. Now it's just instant milk again with the stock screen in there. I do think the fine mesh is helping filter the debris from the sublimate oil that is building up below. It looks pretty clean to me. The fine mesh screen does require more regular cleaning though to keep the air flow good.do we need to start a cloud vs sub thread??
I've also been using the Sub exclusively since getting it. No burns yet, just gotta watch your space, and pay attention.
Seriously.
Enchantre
Oil Painter
I think the comparisons, and the contrasts, are valuable information for this thread.
Function, form, and effects. It has helped to read several reviews, insights, and wild ideas from others, for me to make the (highly personal) decision to direct my VAS elsewhere. I do LOVE the videos, and all the reviews! Maybe further down the road, this might become a tool in my arsenal.
Function, form, and effects. It has helped to read several reviews, insights, and wild ideas from others, for me to make the (highly personal) decision to direct my VAS elsewhere. I do LOVE the videos, and all the reviews! Maybe further down the road, this might become a tool in my arsenal.
I'm all for comparisons by folks that have used both....I really don't mind constructive questions and suggestions by those still on the fence either. What I hate, is people sniping in here or elsewhere with comments along the lines of
"Oh my gawdz people say they are getting burns from the subliminator. Holy crapz you need two hands to use it as well. I'm gunna get the cloud instead. Sounds too risky lulz"
When what they could of said was
"I am torn between this unit and the cloud. One of my concerns with the sub, is that it seems to have alot of exposed areas that get hot. Is it really as dangerous as it sounds?"
etc, etc.
"Oh my gawdz people say they are getting burns from the subliminator. Holy crapz you need two hands to use it as well. I'm gunna get the cloud instead. Sounds too risky lulz"
When what they could of said was
"I am torn between this unit and the cloud. One of my concerns with the sub, is that it seems to have alot of exposed areas that get hot. Is it really as dangerous as it sounds?"
etc, etc.
smokum
I am who I am and your approval isn't needed!
When I was yakkin back n forth with PV, he made mention that they would soon have a specialized glass tube with a whip attachment for the Sublimator (they're hoping for the beginning of August). He also mentioned they were producing their own reclaimer made to accommodate the Adapt-A-Bong atomizer in both 14mm and 18mm sizes and that production of this reclaimer already started and should be available next week already.
I sit totally enthusiastic to adding these options to my Sub post haste
I sit totally enthusiastic to adding these options to my Sub post haste
I posted this in the Cloud thread but it needs to be said here as well. Please divert all Cloud vs. Sub comments to this thread.
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vapexhale-cloud-vs-the-sublimator-debate.10077/
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vapexhale-cloud-vs-the-sublimator-debate.10077/
For a carb you mean? I think they have one drilled into the bottom...could be wrong, but there was a video with one that way.
Paul 8888
Well-Known Member
I want the metal parts to hold everything upright