Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

[lonelyhero]

with the 3.7 rod you can run the ss kit with a single AW IMR 18350 you will have longer heat up times and less battery life also the stock 18350's are no good for the herc

my herc never seems to have any lingering odor but i believe this depends greatly on the wax's/oils being used and not the machine itself

yes the SR71 is the older model its not that it has problems its more like buying a high end sports car it will do exactly what you want if your very careful and fully understand the proper techniques etc there is a larger learning curve but the "problems" go away with proper technique

EDIT: also Masaki i friggin love your profile pic majoras mask is probably my favorite zelda game ever

 

[Fredster951]

1.)yes with a 18350 aw cell. Although battery life is on the low side. Must be near fully charged to get good results.
2.)yes the herc will stink up a room with a stinky oil. No material the Herc uses "covers up" the smell.
3.)The SR74 was released last year I think.

I think what @masaki means is the Hercules is a heavy hitter. It WILL require technique to get clouds and proper function. Take small steps before it runs away from you. You can use google search to find specific information on this 1000 plus page thread. Type in something like fuckcombustion.com w9 tech hercules sr71 oil vaporizer.

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Sorry guys working hard this past weekend to move and we finally got shipping computers up and running with the new equipment, shipping starts in a few hours. As now we can work day and night to ship items out.

Answering tickets as well. We will be working tirelessly to catch up and provide service unmatched.


Still waiting for nibbler xl's to be in stock, and v4 tops are in production.

I think hercules sr74's will be shipped out this monday have to confirm with or manufacturing wing.

 

[DaNi_DuB]

Sorry guys working hard this past weekend to move and we finally got shipping computers up and running with the new equipment, shipping starts in a few hours. As now we can work day and night to ship items out.

Answering tickets as well. We will be working tirelessly to catch up and provide service unmatched.


Still waiting for nibbler xl's to be in stock, and v4 tops are in production.

I think hercules sr74's will be shipped out this monday have to confirm with or manufacturing wing.

Any news on the hammer rods? Benders getting dusty

 

[Fishbaitz]

I keep hearing alot of people mention a learning curve and technique @masaki What is your technique? ive heard pulsing the button and inhaling for like 10 secs after you get it warm and what not, only hold it down for 5 seconds.. ive had it for a few dayz but it seems to get dirty still quick even when i inhale alot to cool down the coil.. basically my question is how do you keep the hercules from getting dirty so quickly, i waste a lot of oil opening it up and cleaning it making me sad

 

[masaki]

because as i have said in each post. i like to look up and research things before i buy them and am very careful with how i use things so that i dont end up frying it or messing it up when i finally have my hands on it. my questions stated nothing about if i should get it or not. they were simple.

(1) does the 3.7v rod allow me to use the smallest tube in my SS kit (because stealth means alot to me.)
(2) does the herc give off an odor when not in use like the old carts use to or does the material its made out of help prevent smell leaks (because i had to keep my old carts in a doobtube)
(3) was the SR71 the one released last yr (because thats the one you specifically mentioned and at the time of its release i was on this forum quite a bit)

however YOUR responses have been telling me
(1) recommend against getting it if its my "first rodeo" - its not..
(2) take "baby steps" - ive already laid out my plan including "baby steps"
(3) the herc isnt for everyone - from my 1st post i said i was getting it so this wasnt helpful.

You basically took it to this topic. Which is why i felt the need to further explain myself before. and now again. i dont think i can spell it out any more clearly than this now.

1. Yes
2. A little bit.. Can't compare it to the EO cart cause I haven't used one in a long time.
3.Sr74 was released last year. I was only stating my first experience with the herc.

1. I recommend against a black rod for a first time user: Because it's more challenging then the regular 7.4 rod. And the 7.4 can be challenging as well, depending on several factors.
2. Yes baby steps. Master the 7.4 rod so when you run the 3.7 rod you'll know the ins and outs of the herc and operation.
3. Yes the herc isn't for everyone. I think it's only fair that be stated before someone who never tried a hercules buys one.

I like the 3.7v it's very flavorful! But I would choose a 7.4v if portability is my concern. I want my portable devices to be quick and easy. Not long and difficult... (That's what she said)

I realize you want all your facts straight and to research before you buy anything. I believe most of us here are the same way. But a quick search can simply help you and the thread.

 

[Fredster951]

I keep hearing alot of people mention a learning curve and technique @masaki What is your technique? ive heard pulsing the button and inhaling for like 10 secs after you get it warm and what not, only hold it down for 5 seconds.. ive had it for a few dayz but it seems to get dirty still quick even when i inhale alot to cool down the coil.. basically my question is how do you keep the hercules from getting dirty so quickly, i waste a lot of oil opening it up and cleaning it making me sad

I am not Masaki but I am curious to your specific situation. What do you mean by "getting dirty so quickly"??

 

[spoutti]

Id be happy to read a fool proof no reclaim tech to draw on my sr71 Im afraid to use it again and end up with most of my concentrate in my bottom chamber. I have the core with my sr71, and many kiss cart keeping me happy atm Tx to help me get on the right track

 

[k3nd4l]

1. Yes
2. A little bit.. Can't compare it to the EO cart cause I haven't used one in a long time.
3.Sr74 was released last year. I was only stating my first experience with the herc.
.

haha thank you for this. I guess by formatting it differently we got to the point ! i see a couple people saying it depends on the oil for smell so iguess ill grab a doobtube from planetvape.. hopefully the herc fits in it like my carts used to. & portability wasnt really my concern as long as its not a glass piece.. its mainly id rather pull a small persei + herc outta my pocket rather than the giant persei + the already tall herc. small & discreet like an e cig is key since NY hasnt opened its eyes yet and still feels wax is worth a year in prison + a $1000 fine..

i did do a search btw. it was "sr74 3.7" and this thread only.. produced around 200 results and i couldnt be bothered to go through each msg until i found the answer only to have to look up another question which is why i asked it all together in 1 msg so that someone w. the herc (you in this case) could chime in. once again thank you very much for taking the time to help me out w. this. also thanks to @Fredster951 & @lonelyhero for chiming in as well !

 

[TommydCat]

I'm experimenting with the SR-74x + 3.7 black rod + AW 18350 now thinking the two 18350s I have are old and on the way out... It's working great with an AW 18650 I acquired about the same time (but have used less), but, longer tube - the button in the hammer top is brighter with the 18650 as well!

Time to freshen up the stock...

 

[lockie]

I'm assuming he means he is experiencing leakage. I find that if it still runs and hits normally, just keep going until the build-up is excessive then you can remove the bottom part and scoop the reclaim more effectively.
I've been messing with my SR-71 more recently and think I've been getting pretty good clouds for not so much wax used. Actually haven't used the kiss cartridges nearly as much as I'm getting used to the Hercules. I'm sticking with mainly shatter and after priming the coil enough, just add bits by bits so that flavor can somewhat be saved. I don't use the black cover since I find that without it, I can notice the air-flow a lot easier, however, it does help if you want to have a more secure seal.

Directions for SR-71 Hercules White Rod 7.4v:
1-2 seconds to heat up the wax. Ensure you have air-flow when you lightly inhale. Keep inhaling with the clear air-flow and press the button with 2 second pulses 3x. Continue inhaling for a couple seconds. Then do the cool-down hits. Wait around 25-30 seconds between each hit.

I think the key is making sure you have air-flow before you actually press the button for the hit and making sure that your coil is saturated enough, while making sure not to over-load it. It helps a lot that I have shatter that is snap and pull so I can just handle it with my fingers and drop just enough to cover the inner coil that surrounds the rod and do slow pulses to prime it down. I also think it lasts longer than other waxes because it doesn't melt as fast which leads to less leaks? While the cloud production seems amazing, the taste doesn't stay constant, the first hit or two after reloading it with fresh wax tastes good but then it goes kinda meh.
I'm using 1 TI coil with the white rod at 7.4v btw. Maybe I'll try the SR-74 white rod later to see if there is any difference... did anyone notice anything between those in taste/cloud production?

 

[masaki]

haha thank you for this. I guess by formatting it differently we got to the point ! i see a couple people saying it depends on the oil for smell so iguess ill grab a doobtube from planetvape.. hopefully the herc fits in it like my carts used to. & portability wasnt really my concern as long as its not a glass piece.. its mainly id rather pull a small persei + herc outta my pocket rather than the giant persei + the already tall herc. small & discreet like an e cig is key since NY hasnt opened its eyes yet and still feels wax is worth a year in prison + a $1000 fine..

i did do a search btw. it was "sr74 3.7" and this thread only.. produced around 200 results and i couldnt be bothered to go through each msg until i found the answer only to have to look up another question which is why i asked it all together in 1 msg so that someone w. the herc (you in this case) could chime in. once again thank you very much for taking the time to help me out w. this. also thanks to @Fredster951 & @lonelyhero for chiming in as well !

Doob tube won't fit but the they carry a bigger tube that should fit the herc just fine.
Try loading your herc and carry a bottle of ejuice with you? I doubt a cop will know the difference. If he questions you drop some juice in there and get vaked in front of him! It'll taste horrible and ruin your loaded coil until you clean it. I'd hope it wouldn't come down to that lol. But for transporting I would just detach and reattach the hercules from the persei on the go.

 

[k3nd4l]

Doob tube won't fit but the they carry a bigger tube that should fit the herc just fine.
Try loading your herc and carry a bottle of ejuice with you? I doubt a cop will know the difference. If he questions you drop some juice in there and get vaked in front of him! It'll taste horrible and ruin your loaded coil until you clean it. I'd hope it wouldn't come down to that lol. But for transporting I would just detach and reattach the hercules from the persei on the go.

Ah thats a bummer. Are you talking about the travel tube to fit the herc in ? & i actually have a bottle of Hawaiian Punch E-Juice on the way so thats a great idea. if anything i may purchase an ejuice cart from W9 w. the rest of my order & fill it w. the ejuice to carry around "in case of emergency"


actually very happy right now. just saw thc say the sr74 will be back in stock for shipping monday?! that means by next friday i should be back to using my persei havent used it since july.. poor babys been neglected

 

[k3nd4l]

Sorry guys working hard this past weekend to move and we finally got shipping computers up and running with the new equipment, shipping starts in a few hours. As now we can work day and night to ship items out.

Answering tickets as well. We will be working tirelessly to catch up and provide service unmatched.


Still waiting for nibbler xl's to be in stock, and v4 tops are in production.

I think hercules sr74's will be shipped out this monday have to confirm with or manufacturing wing.

Does this mean the Sr74 will be available for order monday rather than the previously stated November 15th?

 

[Fredster951]

I'm assuming he means he is experiencing leakage. I find that if it still runs and hits normally, just keep going until the build-up is excessive then you can remove the bottom part and scoop the reclaim more effectively.
I've been messing with my SR-71 more recently and think I've been getting pretty good clouds for not so much wax used. Actually haven't used the kiss cartridges nearly as much as I'm getting used to the Hercules. I'm sticking with mainly shatter and after priming the coil enough, just add bits by bits so that flavor can somewhat be saved. I don't use the black cover since I find that without it, I can notice the air-flow a lot easier, however, it does help if you want to have a more secure seal.

Directions for SR-71 Hercules White Rod 7.4v:
1-2 seconds to heat up the wax. Ensure you have air-flow when you lightly inhale. Keep inhaling with the clear air-flow and press the button with 2 second pulses 3x. Continue inhaling for a couple seconds. Then do the cool-down hits. Wait around 25-30 seconds between each hit.

I think the key is making sure you have air-flow before you actually press the button for the hit and making sure that your coil is saturated enough, while making sure not to over-load it. It helps a lot that I have shatter that is snap and pull so I can just handle it with my fingers and drop just enough to cover the inner coil that surrounds the rod and do slow pulses to prime it down. I also think it lasts longer than other waxes because it doesn't melt as fast which leads to less leaks? While the cloud production seems amazing, the taste doesn't stay constant, the first hit or two after reloading it with fresh wax tastes good but then it goes kinda meh.
I'm using 1 TI coil with the white rod at 7.4v btw. Maybe I'll try the SR-74 white rod later to see if there is any difference... did anyone notice anything between those in taste/cloud production?

I mostly use the Hercules SR71 too but this applies to all versions of Hercules. First the SR71 white rod is a HOT ROD performer! Keep this in mind while operating. Just like a SERIOUS Hot rod/sports car, full throttle ALL the time will get you in trouble real quick. The rubber burns quickly and possibility of a crash are very likely. You must control the SR71 like a smooth operator. The less you hold the power button down the better!! This has a lot to do with draw technique. Holding down that throttle button will vaporize the flavor quickly! Ending up with "generic taste". The best method for the flavorist is loading per session. Load balls of wax/shatter per session or for the day. And avoid riding the button. Quick cool down hits are also important. When you are done cool the hercules quickly. You will save more flavor terpenes with this method. Another solution with a few drawbacks is the black rod. Flavor is excellent and lasts with the black rod. But loading per session/day is still recommended with any rod IMO. After a while and so many grams the herc will need to be cleaned. The rod builds up gunk and so does the coil. Torching the coil lightly will clean it. After I drop it in ISO. The rod i just do a dry burn and watch it self clean. If you are loading per session and still get a generic funky taste, time to clean. Keep in mind when I say load per session, load generously. Load good size balls for your session. You will know the minimum you can load after experimenting.

 

[Vapoholic420]

haha thank you for this. I guess by formatting it differently we got to the point ! i see a couple people saying it depends on the oil for smell so iguess ill grab a doobtube from planetvape.. hopefully the herc fits in it like my carts used to. & portability wasnt really my concern as long as its not a glass piece.. its mainly id rather pull a small persei + herc outta my pocket rather than the giant persei + the already tall herc. small & discreet like an e cig is key since NY hasnt opened its eyes yet and still feels wax is worth a year in prison + a $1000 fine..

i did do a search btw. it was "sr74 3.7" and this thread only.. produced around 200 results and i couldnt be bothered to go through each msg until i found the answer only to have to look up another question which is why i asked it all together in 1 msg so that someone w. the herc (you in this case) could chime in. once again thank you very much for taking the time to help me out w. this. also thanks to @Fredster951 & @lonelyhero for chiming in as well !

That's cool. I'm from NY area too. Haha. Syracuse. Anyone else on FC from around here??

 

[k3nd4l]

That's cool. I'm from NY area too. Haha. Syracuse. Anyone else on FC from around here??

haha thats dope. im on long island

 

[lonelyhero]

south jersey here

 

[OB]

F jersey, what's up with Delaware!!! I know there's got to be a few Delawareans up in this place. Actually I'm sure I'm the only one....

 

[SkrACHIN]

Definitely a massive imrpovement with the new button!


should this button screw need any adjustment though? Not going to lie, i am getting an occasional misfire, but when it hits it ACTUALLY hits. it's definitely never performed like this before.

damn! how did you get your button?!?! my 8 is still useless. nothing beyond my kanger tank will fire. the tips of my fingers and thumb have been worn down to rough, cut up extremities. If you don't stay on this thread all day then you miss so much! Or spend a few hours reading trying to catch up! I've given up. And damn kijiji won't let you post vapor equipment. Boo-urns! Gonna use it as a walnut cracker now....

 

[konmo]

damn! how did you get your button?!?! my 8 is still useless. nothing beyond my kanger tank will fire. the tips of my fingers and thumb have been worn down to rough, cut up extremities. If you don't stay on this thread all day then you miss so much! Or spend a few hours reading trying to catch up! I've given up. And damn kijiji won't let you post vapor equipment. Boo-urns! Gonna use it as a walnut cracker now....

lol G initially had four new button assembly's that he sent out to the first four people reporting problems with their 8. I think more are in production. These new button assembly seemed to have fixed the issues people were having with their button including myself.

 

[SkrACHIN]

@THC SCIENTIFIC I've pm'd you a couple times but never heard back. i've just opened a ticket on the website. If someone in Toronto or nearby wants to try this out please PM me. Willing to give it up and move back to the Persei. Need a new bottom adapter for the hercules though. This 8 business destroyed mine taking it apart and rebuilding it a million times. and without it the nibbler is useless too. so frustrated with this nonsense. i wish i never preordered this thing. time money and shatter down the drain.

 

[masaki]

@THC SCIENTIFIC I've pm'd you a couple times but never heard back. i've just opened a ticket on the website. If someone in Toronto or nearby wants to try this out please PM me. Willing to give it up and move back to the Persei. Need a new bottom adapter for the hercules though. This 8 business destroyed mine taking it apart and rebuilding it a million times. and without it the nibbler is useless too. so frustrated with this nonsense. i wish i never preordered this thing. time money and shatter down the drain.

@THC SCIENTIFIC just finished moving to a new facility. Which probably is going cause a small delay in response time. Please try understand, G helps everyone out in this thread. Let's try do him a solid and try be just a little extra patient.
You won't find customer service like this from another vape pen company that's for sure!

I'm still testing my 8 with my new button assembly. But for the most part everything is working great. Like you I was on the verge of giving up on the 8. The new button assembly has my 8 running great with the hercules! I don't have a persei anymore. I'm solely relying on the 8 and my minicron.

 

[Vapoholic420]

Hell yeah, my 8 is perfect now! I barely gotta push my button hard at all!! I'm positive G will have one available to everyone that purchased an 8 very soon! I know he said that fixing the button issue on the 8 was their top priority at the moment. Besides the move I'm sure. Hang in there bro, you'll be back in business with an 8 that works better than ever b4 u know it!! I know it IS frustrating tho!

 

[Skeena]

Can anyone confirm if the 18650 that were used with the cera are powerful enough to run the persei with its 3.7v attachments? Thanks