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Vapoholic420

-Loyal To The Oil-
^This...It works, but man I swear my fingers are starting to get sore lol you really gotta smash on that thing to get it going.
Lol. Me too! All my fingers are sore, and I can probably take the 8 apart, adjust it, and reassemble in less than 30 seconds!! I can probably compete with the best assemblers at W9 Tech!!! Lmao! I'm just really frustrated with this thing now. I'm back to paper weight status! I said screw it and hooked my Herc back up to my Persei and it just got way cloudier in here!! Ticket filed on the 8!
 

masaki

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I don't even bother trying.. The fact that I feel like I'm breaking it by jamming on the button ruins it for me.
 

itschad

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ok guys pm me who has an issue with the 8 and the Hercules SR74, and who has an issue with the 71.

@itschad, the rebuild kits are going to be live in a few hours.

I think i might have found a solution.

sweet!

I never even considered trying my SR74 on my 8 honestly. I only tried my sr71 and okeanos. I'll have to try the sr74 when i get a new spring.


adopt the bottom connection from the okeanos to everything it works fucking amazingly
 

coffinoff

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I got a SR71 ten days ago and ran about a gram through it at 3.7v. I was actually really happy with it but I had the 7.4v rod just sitting around so I figured I might as well give it a shot since I never had before. I ended up tearing it down, cleaning it out and rebuilding it 4 times by the end of the day.

It fired great the first couple hits at 7.4v, then I picked it up a few minutes later and the button would just flash. Rebuilt it back to 3.7 and ran it like that most of the day with zero problems.

Switched back to 7.4 later in the evening and it seemed ok at first again, then the button would flash intermittently. Sometimes I would get a solid light but the rod wasn't getting hot at all. I figured I screwed something up even though it's really not that complex. Each time I assembled it with the 3.7v rod, it always worked, and it goes together the exact same way. Took it apart, cleaned and rebuilt it back at 7.4v again, double checking every step.

I finally just tried raising the batteries in the tube like 1mm and now it seems to fire and get hot consistently. Go figure. For some reason I was thinking the top of the battery was supposed to be more flush with the top of the tube-- that's how my 18650s had been in there anyway and they were working. Now I know why everyone has a multimeter handy.
 
coffinoff,

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Ok update time on then 8 and hercules


After fiddling with it, i came to some findings.

Because the nature of the mech mod side fire, pressing it in to make full contact has to always be done.

Now here is my findings


SR74 sometimes fires sometimes doesnt because of the bottom adapter. Going to address this soon as we might switch over to the 71 bottom adapter and just keep it that way and offer an upgrade to the 74's to the owners who bought 8's with a discount.


SR71's fired all the time after i made sure the 71 was assembled correctly with a voltmeter and the button position is perfected.


On a empty herc 71 from cold to glowing rod takes about 10-12 seconds, same as the Persei.


Now with all the data and feedback and different usages levels we are working on making 2 different center pins and testing them out and hopefully will have them available to all who purchased the 8 for free just pay for shipping.


As of right now the only issue i have seen is fine tuning the 8 and pressing the button in all the way.


Past three days i have been using an 8 that a customer had trouble with and I have had a few miss fires but once i adjusted my thumb position on the button it works flawlessly.
 
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konmo

Active Member
Ok update time on then 8 and hercules


After fiddling with it, i came to some findings.

Because the nature of the mech mod side fire, pressing it in to make full contact has to always be done.

Now here is my findings


SR74 sometimes fires sometimes doesnt because of the bottom adapter. Gonna address this soon as we might switch over to the 71 bottom adapter and just keep it that way and offer an upgrade to the 74's to the owners who bought 8's with a discount.


SR71's fired all the time after i made sure the 71 was assembled correctly with a voltmeter and the button position is perfected.


On a empty herc 71 from cold to glowing rod takes about 10-12 seconds, same as the Persei.


Now with all the data and feedback and different usages levels we are working on making 2 different center pins and testing them out and hopefully will have them available to all who purchased the 8 for free just pay for shipping.


As of right now the only issue i have seen is fine tuning the 8 and pressing the button in all the way.


Past three days i have been using an 8 that a customer had trouble with and I have had a few miss fires but once i adjusted the my thumb on the button it works flawlessly.
When the sr74 worked, how long did it take for rod to start glowing? It takes about 20-25 sec to start glowing on mine. Seems like a long time to me.
 
konmo,

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When the sr74 worked, how long did it take for rod to start glowing? It takes about 20-25 sec to start glowing on mine. Seems like a long time to me.

the 74 wont glow like the 71, in fact it barely glows. This is the way it was designed.
 

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I also have a 3.7v black rod which if I use that at 7.4v it glows quick, but I was told it is not good to run the black rod at 7.4v.

thats because running the black rod on 7.4v is going to be cause some major issues, the black rod does not glow as well.
 
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konmo

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thats because running the black rod on 7.4v is going to be cause some major issues, the black rod does not glow as well.
ah alright thanks, just confirming. Haven't been doing that. only tried it once while testing...also, when you say "we are working on making 2 different center pins", do you mean the top pin with the two nuts? If so what revisions would you guys do to improve them?
 
konmo,

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ah alright thanks, just confirming. Haven't been doing that. only tried it once while testing...also, when you say "we are working on making 2 different center pins", do you mean the top pin with the two nuts? If so what revisions would you guys do to improve them?

Top and bottom pin and well discuss that once we have a concrete test unit and test it out.
 

OB

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@THC SCIENTIFIC if I only want to run 3.7 kiss carts what are the benefits of the new v4 top compared to the current omicron v5 besides hammer time mode?
 
OB,

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@THC SCIENTIFIC if I only want to run 3.7 kiss carts what are the benefits of the new v4 top compared to the current omicron v5 besides hammer time mode?


The Persei v4 tops are touch button, we are moving away from the older system because of design limitations.

The only difference is designed to handle the Herc from the ground up. Since the Herc requires constant and long button pushes we think the touch button is a lot better on the fingers.


also update i finished doing 50 herc runs on the 8 and it seems to be powering up 100% of the time.

What im thinking is also happening is people are use to the Persei button and dont fully understand that a mech mod you need to push the button to make it work, now making the center pins a little bit differently might reduce the issues but still have to remember that a mech mod requires a button push unlike the persei where it fires with only a few millimeters of the button being pushed in.
 

chronickiller7

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No I don't recommend this. You are pushing the batteries and the device to dangerous levels. The 3.7 black rod is about .6-.8 ohm. At 7.4v this is advised against. The white rod is plenty powerful once you get the hang of it.

@chronickiller7 it sounds like you have a older version persei. You can use this on the SR74 however you don't have short circuit protection. This means once you screw up once and cause a short circuit , your Persei top will more than likely be toast. The latest versions have circuit protection. As far as upgrading a sr71 to a 74, it is possible but IMO this is not common practice. If you want a Sr74, wait for it to be back in stock. A Sr71 is just as good if not better. It has a hotter rod and is 100% serviceable at home. The only downside is you have to assemble the sr71 110% correctly or you will have problems. More for the experienced w9 enthusiast

Would getting a hammer head solve the circuit protection problem? And I don't mind having the set up the cart carefully. I think I can handle that, but do the 71 and 74 perform any different? Anywhere I can read or watch how to fully assemble the 71? Same with filling the 71 and 74?
 
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Fredster951

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Would getting a hammer head solve the circuit protection problem? And I don't mind having the set up the cart carefully. I think I can handle that, but do the 71 and 74 perform any different? Anywhere I can read or watch how to fully assemble the 71? Same with filling the 71 and 74?
The hammer top from w9 tech does have circuit protection. The sr71 is more powerful. Sr74 is more user friendly. As far as the way they function, same. Same concept/idea on both. Go on you tube and look for Gary's videos. They show you how to assemble the hercules correctly.
 
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sethhobrin

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Just got my SR-71 and Persei. Can someone give me an idea on the proper method of hitting this. I loaded about .5, melted, then added another .5. How long on average do people hold the button. Seems to start getting bubbly pretty quickly in the chamber. I have it filled to just about the top of the ceramic heating rod after melted.


EDIT: HOLY FUCK........ I've never had a wax hit like that before. I've only used kiss carts.... Ok so whats the longest one should really hold the button down during a hit? Do you guys pulse or just hold for a number of seconds?
 
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torggzorz

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Greetings all, new to the forum here but I have been reading and I really like the looks of the community!

I just recieved my Persei in the mail today (that had to be one of the most excruciating waits ever!) and I'm absolutely floored by it's performance on the 3.7 gr2 ti carts, just amazing! I'm about to try this 7.4 cart momentarily....:>

However my kanger protank 2 just tastes like burnt horrible awful, I tried swapping to a different coil but same result... Read about on the net and it said try flipping the grommet and pulling some flavor wick... I tried that and it worked ok for like one puff then it's back to the same old yuck :( Any clues? I'm certainly not a vape expert by any means so any help is appreciated!
 
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