Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

[herbivore21]

So how well does QWISO work with the herc and with kiss carts? Since QWISO is the bulk of what I'm working with these days?

 

[Caligula]

The Herc works well with basically any concentrate.

 

[Sleepin in CA]

Ok so I am doing this now.....

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/custom-persei-and-attachments-and-underdog-stem-stands.13514/

 

[ataxian]

I think @ataxian can give you a good review of the Bender.

My batteries (18350) are all F^KED up?

As soon as I sort them out I will be using the BENDER again.

I have some fresh BLUE DREAM that the flavor is beyond belief. In a BENDER (NIRVANA) This is my opinion only.

Now if you eat dinner at 7/11 don't bother with the BENDER.

The BENDER if flavor is important.
If flavor is not important don't get a BENDER.

Tomorrow for my WAKE & VAKE a full bowl of BLUE DREAM with a BENDER.
@Sleepin in CA gave me a "Hot Tip":
2 x 18650's and some tubes to handle the configeration.

O!
Let's not forget a HAMMER TOP!

The BENDER will F^ck U up if your not careful.
A SOLO is gentle in comparison!
The SOLO is awesome however the BENDER is way different!

STIR!

Please don't let me influence you!

Do what you like!

 

[Sleepin in CA]

So how well does QWISO work with the herc and with kiss carts? Since QWISO is the bulk of what I'm working with these days?

Like a dream. Works like a dream.

=)

 

[herbivore21]

I think I'm decided, I'm just gonna stick with an omicron lite/kiss carts. If the Persei could do flowers well and discreetly (I understand that the bender does flowers but pulling that glass out in public will have me in a cell), I would have bought one already. As it stands, I will need to stick to using 5 pre-loaded interchangeable kiss carts to suit my needs whilst out and about so as to have enough oil on me for my needs. I do not have reliable enough access to oils in sufficient quantities to spend the extra on a persei. I think I'm gonna be left waiting for the next generation of vapes before I shell out serious cash on a portable, none of the current ones is discreet/compact/high quality/versatile enough for my liking - but if I had to get a current portable, the persei would be it without question. I can see why it has earned the rep it has around these parts! I would love to see a new and improved persei attachment that does flowers and is discreet. If you guys make this, I will beg for the details of how to funnel my money to you!

By the way, what is the Omicron mini I see being sold at planetvape? Not an omicron lite, it looks almost like a stubby sized full omicron?

 

[Caligula]

Omi Mini. Its got an even smaller battery than the omicron W the SS tube.

 

[ataxian]

I think I'm decided, I'm just gonna stick with an omicron lite/kiss carts. If the Persei could do flowers well and discreetly (I understand that the bender does flowers but pulling that glass out in public will have me in a cell), I would have bought one already. As it stands, I will need to stick to using 5 pre-loaded interchangeable kiss carts to suit my needs whilst out and about so as to have enough oil on me for my needs. I do not have reliable enough access to oils in sufficient quantities to spend the extra on a persei. I think I'm gonna be left waiting for the next generation of vapes before I shell out serious cash on a portable, none of the current ones is discreet/compact/high quality/versatile enough for my liking - but if I had to get a current portable, the persei would be it without question. I can see why it has earned the rep it has around these parts! I would love to see a new and improved persei attachment that does flowers and is discreet. If you guys make this, I will beg for the details of how to funnel my money to you!

By the way, what is the Omicron mini I see being sold at planetvape? Not an omicron lite, it looks almost like a stubby sized full omicron?

Good Call!
For a Driver don't get a BENDER.
It's a different kind of device!

 

[herbivore21]

@Caligula So am I right in presuming that you wouldn't recommend using the omicron mini vs the omicron lite due to lower battery capacity?

@ataxian thanks bro! I think it'd be sweet for around the house (provided it attaches very firmly to the persei!), but my Nano and Lotus have me covered at home, the opening in my vaporizer entourage is a good on the go unit.

@THC SCIENTIFIC I salute you on your achievements so far. Your entire range of vapes have a lot of well-deserved cred around here! May I humbly suggest that you look into an attachment like the herc but for flowers? I am thinking the herc's ceramic rod is going to be the right kind of element, perhaps you could use the existing herc assembly and put a fine SS screen above the heater? This would basically be a scaled down battery powered version of my E-Nano!

 

[Caligula]

I think I prefer the Mini because it has swappable batteries and comes with an HVD top.

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

@THC SCIENTIFIC

Still not seeing the nibbler xl listed on W9tech on either the phone view or the standard view. Any word on when it will be purchasable?

Also, whats the time line on the improved kiss cart? Super excited, i guess it is good the nibbler xl was not listed and didn't already buy the old one kiss. I have to stick to a budget, so if its in the near foreseeable future than i will hold off on the kiss for the improved version. I am sure the nibbler XL and herc will keep me plenty busy and satisfied.

Also, what extra benefits does the 71's extra power provide over the 74, referring to your post earlier today? Trying to justify the higher price for the older model.


Can anyone direct me to some reviews on the bender? It seems they are quite limited.
All i seem to find is it sure is tasty and it is great for bed time.
I have a great supply of organic flower, with tons of flavor diversity so providing good flavor is important to me! How does it compare to other flower vapes? Im not too concerned about it being breakable. It would be used 90% at home. So stealth is no concern and its plenty travel sized enough to be stored away. Im more concerned about flavor and potency/effect compared to other well known flower portables and non portable vapes.
I have an extreme Q and honestly never felt like it was adequate. I always felt like the high was missing something and never got me high as smoking. Oil is what got me back in to vapes, the portability and potency. Ihaven't touched my EQ in a year lol and have no experience with the solo (was hesitant after the EQ).I miss good flavor flower vaping, but require potency. I don't want to feel like the high is missing something like the Q left me feeling. 9/10 i would end up smoking just for the effect anyway and just used the vape for taste which deletes the point. Earl vaping has illustrated to me that a proper flower vape should produce the high im after, after all. Is the bender right for me? Better or worse than the extreme q, e-nano. Hi, solo, etc. in regards to flavor and delivery of effect?

If it does sound like it fits my needs, would you recommend it over the nibbler xl? I know apples and oranges, buy them both....but i am tight on cash and have to make my purchases smart...eventually ill have it all haha. Just wanna spend money smart with the quick turnaround times on improvements and high luxury prices.

Thanks again for everyones help, this community truly has been an asset to the company and its future/existing buyers for sure, many of you deserve a kick back for the work you have put in helping others and acting as a liaison to the success of this company! I believe you all are vital and a large factor to their success aside from THCs ever-presents and CS.

Also, i see the phone number is still visible at the bottom of the site, at least on my phone.

The Nibbler XL should be up on the site now.

The update i did for the kiss carts is only the rebuild kits for them. Example Ceramic rods and titanium wire. @Sleepin in CA can still rebuild them for anyone he wants he can buy in bulk and help any member he wishes.

As for the difference in the SR71 and SR74 the only two differences are the SR71 runs hotter and can handle anything you through at it and the only possible failure point is the rod which lasts a long long long long long long you get the picture long time but down side is the learning curve is a bit steep, a great trade off for reliability like never before.

The SR74 has 3 possible failure points which are the bottom adapter, center post and the rod. It is more user friendly and still strong but not as strong as the SR71 as the SR71 is a absolute beast. I will say this not one person who bought the SR series has had any problems that can be attributed to workmanship its almost always user error.

hope this explains it all for you. As for the rest of the post i think you are looking for more user feedback then manufacturer as people might think im trying to hype our stuff up so ill let it be.


As for the rest of the issues caused by the SR 71 and 74 it will soon be resolved as we are drawing close to having the perfect circuit board that can handle these beasts.



@herbivore21 the Hercules can actually do herbs with a screen on the rod, in fact it can do oils and herbs at the same time also.

Have you seen a fractional Vape?

 

[Sleepin in CA]

buy in bulk

Mmmmmm bulk.

 

[jambandphan03]

looks like I'm getting a one eyed purple people eater... just in time for my b-day

 

[herbivore21]

I had gathered here that people have not had huge success with herbs with the current design?

I would love to be wrong! Can anyone share a video of herb being vaped as such? @Caligula @ataxian i know one of you experimental tokers will have the items necessary to do this! Convince me to buy a persei!

What I mean is creating a false sealing above the herc rod with a filter screen (i suspect nano screens might be perfect) and then sitting herb on top, basically copying the setup in the e-nano heater/ss cylinder assembly.

I haven't heard of fractional vapes before, I'm relatively new to the vape game (2 months now!)

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

@herbivore21 fractional vaping is the term used on the Herc when you have a coil inside the Herc with oil loaded and on top of that you have a screen then herbs on top of that when the oil runs out the herbs kick in but the herbs also act as a filter by capturing compounds that require higher temps to vape.

In Essence you get only what your after.

 

[herbivore21]

Oh this I like! I can definitely see tinkering with persei attachment arrangements becoming my new hobby!

EDIT - So, pending some video of the Persei doing flowers with the herc in a reasonably cloudy way (glass will help me see this!), I will be purchasing:

Persei (hopefully black if in stock)
The Core
Hercules 74 (3.7v and 7.4v heaters)
SS Kit
2 x AW 2000mah 18650's
2 x AW 18350's

Figure this should allow me to get herby with the herc, hopefully i can figure out a way to get the 3.7v to do herbs, maybe I'm just blowing smoke though?

 

[ataxian]

@Caligula
@ataxian thanks bro! I think it'd be sweet for around the house (provided it attaches very firmly to the persei!), but my Nano and Lotus have me covered at home, the opening in my vaporizer entourage is a good on the go unit.

I use the {SOLO; NANO; VAP2; LSV & LOTUS} @ home.
There are more vaporizers I want however don't need.

The W9 TECH stuff is kind of like a hobby for me.
The BENDER is for FLOWER however just for fun and Self induced COMAS.
The HERCULES is a POWERFUL CONCENTRATE DEVICE {MELTS, HASH, SHATTER, CRUMBLED, TAFFY} (I have mixed flower with shatter as well)
The K.I.S.S. cart is a cool device for smaller loads. (rebuild-able @Sleep in CA is the man)
You being a guru in electronics no problem for you!
I still use the carts 2.4 and 5.0 because I have a bunch I need to use up.
Then there is the C4 CARTOMIZERS for fluid concentrates with an adapter.
You can set up the PERSEI so many different ways.
I almost forgot the SS KIT.

Plus: OMICRON and OPHOS for out and about.

I don't medicate with flowers outside my home only concentrates!

Concentrates are easier to keep stealth.

Next to my bed I keep a PERSEI, OMICRON & OPHOS ready to VAKE.
(My wife doesn't like the smell of flower)

I tried DABBING however I find the PENS way easier.
DABBING is like painting a building with a paint brush.
I would rather use a spray gun!

 

[herbivore21]

I use the {SOLO; NANO; VAP2; LSV & LOTUS} @ home.
There are more vaporizers I want however don't need.

The W9 TECH stuff is kind of like a hobby for me.
The BENDER is for FLOWER however just for fun and Self induced COMAS.
The HERCULES is a POWERFUL CONCENTRATE DEVICE {MELTS, HASH, SHATTER, CRUMBLED, TAFFY}
The K.I.S.S. cart is a cool device for smaller loads. (rebuild-able @Sleep in CA is the man)
You being a guru in electronics no problem for you!
I still use the carts 2.4 and 5.0 because I have a bunch I need to use up.
Then there is the C4 CARTOMIZERS for fluid concentrates with an adapter.
You can set up the PERSEI so many different ways.
I almost forgot the SS KIT.

Plus: OMICRON and OPHOS for out and about.

I don't medicate with flowers outside my home only concentrates!

Concentrates are easier to keep stealth.

Next to my bed I keep a PERSEI, OMICRON & OPHOS ready to VAKE.
(My wife doesn't like the smell of flower)

I tried DABBING however I find the PENS way easier.
DABBING is like painting a building with a paint brush.
I would rather use a spray gun!

I love the hobby aspect of the w9 stuff already!

I am hoping I can get good enough results with the 3.7v herc heater to use that with SS kit on Persei for out and about. I like the design of the herc, seems like a tiny portable metal nano

Hey, you wouldn't be feeling generous and experimental, no this isn't going where you think it is going lol: Would you be able to try setting up the herc with one or two SS screens (maybe Nano screens?) above the ceramic rod (not touching it) to create a flower bowl (think packing like the Nano), do you think this would work? I wanna see a video of this to make me 100% sure that I should drop $400 odd on another vape. Would be most appreciated

 

[ataxian]

I love the hobby aspect of the w9 stuff already!

I am hoping I can get good enough results with the 3.7v herc heater to use that with SS kit on Persei for out and about. I like the design of the herc, seems like a tiny portable metal nano

Hey, you wouldn't be feeling generous and experimental, no this isn't going where you think it is going lol: Would you be able to try setting up the herc with one or two SS screens (maybe Nano screens?) above the ceramic rod (not touching it) to create a flower bowl (think packing like the Nano), do you think this would work? I wanna see a video of this to make me 100% sure that I should drop $400 odd on another vape. Would be most appreciated

I could however what's your point?

Make SHATTER?
A 8 year old could make it!
SHATTER in a HERCULES is opulence!

You may have a new set up?
Coil - SS Screen - Flower - SS Screen

Coil - [Glass Disc] - Flower - SS Screen {would be my take?}

How about a herb basket? (pellet)

My HERCULES {SR71, SR74} are 7.4's!

 

[herbivore21]

Cant make shatter bro! I wish! No outdoor area for me to purge butane and ethanol is too expensive in these parts (70$ per 500ml, yikes!). Flowers and qwiso for me so i need something that can make the most out of both, you got my setup straight, give it a shot for me?

 

[ataxian]

Cant make shatter bro! I wish! No outdoor area for me to purge butane and ethanol is too expensive in these parts (70$ per 500ml, yikes!). Flowers and qwiso for me so i need something that can make the most out of both, you got my setup straight, give it a shot for me?

I tried qwiso and the flavor was way to horrible!
All these so called healthier oil extracts all give me a headache?

BHO EXTRACTS well purged is the best flavor and effect I have experienced.

ABV I throw on the ground. (tried processing it and I can't take it.)
Then again my taste buds are super sensitive.
What I think doesn't matter to the masses anyway!

I'll play with flower in the SR74 however I'm at 7.4V.

I make SHATTER in my garden.

7x BUTANE is $35 for 6 cans.

Some people claim they recycle their ABV with ISO?
If you can do it?
When I made it it was like black tar.
Maybe you have a better method?

 

[herbivore21]

that would be amazing man, I'm gonna use it 7.4v most of the time coz most places i go are 420 friendly but the 3.7 and ss will be for stealth

 

[Mynameismud]

I love the hobby aspect of the w9 stuff already!

I am hoping I can get good enough results with the 3.7v herc heater to use that with SS kit on Persei for out and about. I like the design of the herc, seems like a tiny portable metal nano

Hey, you wouldn't be feeling generous and experimental, no this isn't going where you think it is going lol: Would you be able to try setting up the herc with one or two SS screens (maybe Nano screens?) above the ceramic rod (not touching it) to create a flower bowl (think packing like the Nano), do you think this would work? I wanna see a video of this to make me 100% sure that I should drop $400 odd on another vape. Would be most appreciated

Okay so as for a video, vitolo has one showing good results with the herc and herbs. Although his is with the blue rod (not availAble anymore) i tried the blue rod, never got the same results. I tried the 3.7v black rod for oils, with just herbs and no coil a few times. Got okay results but vapor was whispy. Herbs and the herc is more of an afterthought. It wasnt designed for it so if your planning on using it every day with herbs you may be dissapointed (the iris might change this, should have had @Sleepin in CA test that out...)

Ive tried a screen above the rod (with a coil and oil) and herbs on top. The fractional vape thing. Worked really well, but gets quite messy and reloading is a pain. A herb capsule type thing to throw in there above the coil would be a good addition to the herc (wink wink @THC SCIENTIFIC)

Anyway, i saw your plan of getting 5 kiss carts to carry around. Seems like quite a hassle, the kiss carts are great but they can break pretty easily. Might be annoying if you go to take a hit and have to keep switching to find a kiss cart that works.

The herc will hold enough oil to get you through the day. I love the 3.7V rod but would not recommend it for a beginner. The 7.4V herc as a bit of a learning curve. The 3.7V black rod has even more of a learning curve and requires a bit more technique. Although it is great carrying it around with the SS tube.

Hope that helps

 

[itschad]

The only learning curve i experienced with the 3.7v rod was an 8-10 second heat up instead of 4-5

 

[Iplaydoctor]

Thanks for all the excellent and helpful replies.

@THC SCIENTIFIC

When will the rebuild kit be uploaded to the site for order? Whats included and how much will it cost? Both 7.4 and 3.7?...any near future releases using a wickless/coiless kiss system?