Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.
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SlideOrDie
Well-Known Member
Haha it's the same way here bud, the worst of the worst for locations in terms of the public's opinion on how safe the neighborhood is lol... I guess it depends on what type of person you are, but I love it this way. It keeps ticket prices down (never paid more than $20/ticket) and it's always a really up close and personal type show... Sorta feels like you're chillin with family and it's true what everyone says, spitta and trademark are literally the nicest dudes you will ever meet, it's crazy haha...
10-12 ......
I know... gotta love a flooded market
keifmaker
Pax Ploom - Zmax mini- Thermo W
that's what I plan on doing with my bender, I have the larger pinnacle double shower head perc and i plan on ordering a adapter I've already made one for my pax so it can't be too hard for the bender
keifmaker
Pax Ploom - Zmax mini- Thermo W
I'm nor ever sure where to even start looking for adapters to go from bender to 18mm hydrotubeI want a VECTION H2O!
I'm left in the cold while you guy's are warmed by the fire?
Let me know what you come up with?
The mouth piece is like a bong and for me a bad design.
The BENDER is way better designed with a 18mm fitting on the top end for the mouth piece.
I just use the BENDER stock "DRY"!
Done wet however the all glass chamber is extremely sweet the way it is.
Water path is fun I will try some other set ups.
This kind of vaporizer is not for everyone!
If your a FLAVOR CHASER you should have one.
If flavor is not important then a pack of ZIG-ZAGS is the way to go!
Making your own concentrates is so cool!
$90 a gram for the SHATTER I love made me take the plunge.
If you purge correctly your gear will love you.
Good for your health as well as your pocket book!
This is my $200 DIY set up.
Having a endless supply makes it less stressful!
I make mine with COLAS!
OF
Well-Known Member
I'd like to add a note of caution to this. Making your own concentrate is far from safe. Most of the interest in making it illegal is based on guys not killing themselves and burning the joint down concerns. This happens all too often, and often by guys with considerable experience 'blowing 'tane'. Many of us know of such incidents. The stuff is flat out dangerous, not good for stoners not paying attention or fully understanding the risks.
Respect the process and the dangers involved. Not something to casually dabble in IMO. For many of us, buying from a quality dispensary makes more sense I think?
OF
OF
Well-Known Member
I'm not saying it's not 'right' for some, just that we should give due caution to the dangers along with the other advice? I'm sure we'd all feel bad should some newbie get hurt?
As to the "I should just shut up" BS, don't you dare! Your experience, enthusiasm and willing advice are exactly the "sterner stuff" of which Bacon spoke when he wrote Shakespeare....... But it's all good since Mel Brooks reminds us "Shakespeare ate bacon"....
Anyway, we need more of you than less......any more like you at home?
OF
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
"OF" I'm just a KID in a grown man's body!
I feel I'm a bit ZEALOUS at times and need to tone it down.
And yes SAFETY is a concern.
Beleive me I'm very safe.
I may appear careless however it's just an act like a SHAKESPEAREAN Play!
I've maded many grams of ISO extracts.
I use tane because if you purge it correctly the flavor is amazing.
SCIENCE is our friend!
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keifmaker
Pax Ploom - Zmax mini- Thermo W
some of us aren't lucky to live in a state like Cali or Oregon sobwe have to make it ourselves. I'd much rather sacrifice yeild size that quality
Darb
Well-Known Member
It would be way easier to get caught buying concentrates than making them.
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I don't get it?
If you medicate with CANNABIS (GODS CREATION for MAN)
Why would one live where it's demonized?
Like I said:
"I don't get it"!
HOLIDAY!
keifmaker
Pax Ploom - Zmax mini- Thermo W
I agree with you ataxian but we don't live in a perfect world so I have to medicate above the laws line of sightI don't get it?
If you medicate with CANNABIS (GODS CREATION for MAN)
Why would one live where it's demonized?
Like I said:
"I don't get it"!
HOLIDAY!
Atomsk
Floating In My Tin Can
No "casual dabbling" here, OF. My main interest, always, would be creating the best product while not risking my life for it. That, for me, entails knowing the process to it's smallest nuance, and it's kind of my thing to not risk my life. Why would a dedicated person ever take the process lightly?
I'm sure it's easy blow yourself up with tanks of butane, trying to push volume out of BHO production. I'm also sure it's just as easy for some run of the mill stoner with a glass tube / turkey baster, a small can of tane, and a lit joint between their lips to add to the nightmare stories.
I believe this is why the Darwin Awards exist.
Don't worry, OF, this is one little newbie you need not watch. Scientific processes are not taken lightly here. Sure, you can crack down on some genius who thinks it'd be safe to purge a few cans of tane over a gas stove, if only to keep him from perpetuating the bad rep BHO has. IMO most of these geniuses don't know what a wash station is for cause they were too busy playing with the bunsen burner.
You can be sure I'll be much more Heisenberg about it.
I'm not going to try this in my Mother's kitchen with an hour time limit, substituting the vac-chamber with a double-boiler, already itching to take a dab.
That being said, if you guys don't hear from me here, but instead hear about me on the news with the flaming wreckage of my apt. in the background, go ahead and disregard the above. And know, that I know, that I deserved it.
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
keifmaker I'm just busting your balls!
I get it!
Now where is my keif?
Kind regards,
ataxian
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OF
Well-Known Member
Great to hear, but I've no intention of watching anyone. Not my job, sure not my responsibility.
I'm not sure 'standard lab practices' cover it, unless you're talking an explosion proof fume hood?
I know of 3 such 'accidents', two by established 'experts'. One attributed it to a coffee maker sparking, the other tried to do it in the apartment laundry room late at night. His third pan of hot water triggered the water heater in it's closet...... They were inside. The 3rd, outside, had no reason associated with it, but they guys seemed kinda new, no telling what might have happened there.
Accidents do happen. Being an expert is no insurance if you change technique or venue.
I'm also worried about guys using vacuum pumps. Think about it. That pump is moving what? Butane vapor (at low pressures). It then compresses that vapor up to 760mm of pressure so it can open the exhaust valve to vent it to the outside world. And what its it venting? HOT Butane vapor! Right there in the exhaust area of the pump. In one of the areas of science i worked in we used Hydrogen gas in vacuum systems, same issue, pumps are know to blow up. The solution there was to 'gas ballast' the pump, force it to pump a much larger volume of room air to dilute the mixture out of the danger zone (to under 5% Hydrogen n our case). This is a standard feature in serious (two stage) mechanical pumps, the valve lets air in between the stages (which makes the pump run hot which also drys the water out of the oil).
Anyway, we're all adults and should be able to asses the risks for ourselves, provided we know about them.....which is why I bring the matter up? Lots of stuff in life has risks, IMO the big danger is ignorance? And when it comes to getting half the story I suggest Al Gore's Internet has no peer......
Be careful guys, we want you around and healthy.
OF
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
Before you blow yourself up make sure you use a vacuum purge.
Go out in style at least!
Got to go make some SHATTER for the HERCULES SR71!
This thing needs fuel!
"OF" you really put balance into the equation!
What's wrong with my pump?
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Vapoholic420
-Loyal To The Oil-
Once u get enough loaded in there to fill the buffer, just forget about that oil bcuz it will always stay in there! And THEN add what u want to vape in there. Once u got enough in there it will keep hitting and hitting HUGE clouds!! But make sure u leave the buffer in there for next time, or you'll have to buffer it every time, and that's when it could seem like it needs alot of oil!! But if u leave that first buffer in there, then next time u will only need to add a little bit when u wanna vape. But u do kind of loose that initial buffer tho, but u can vape it if u want to. I just don't understand what all the problems are that people are having!! And it's OBVIOUSLY user error @Atomsk, bcuz I have tried every sized coil and concentrates of all different consistencies, with the black heating rod and the white heating rod too,(which I don't even use the white heating rod anymore bcuz the black one has amazing flavor and don't burn your oil and I get just as big of hits with it too) and it hits amazing no matter what I got in it and no matter how the coil is or anything, so I just don't understand how anyone can't get ANY vapor from the Herc and can say it's not dependable or whatever!! UNLESS they just don't have the initial buffer in there and what they want to vape on top of it!! Bcuz that's the ONLY time it don't hit good!! But once u buffer it right and try it ur gonna love it!!! Yes, it does suck to have to put that first buffer amount in there, but once u do u don't hafta do it again unless u switch to a new coil, and it hits and tastes amazing so it way with it!! So in my opinion the people that aren't getting hits hafta put more in until it starts hitting. Bottom line. And don't vape it Boone dry every time! I hope this helps out. I know I'm being kind of blunt but I am ultimately just trying to help everyone out that is having your same problems bcuz if it gets that hot, then it WILL vape the oil, if u buffer it properly, and THEN load what u want to hit in there. Trust me
keifmaker
Pax Ploom - Zmax mini- Thermo W
stash is constantly growing, I save for 6 months at a time then make KILLER hash
ill share if you share some of that shatter your so fond of!
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
For nice information.
I love the WHITE rod however you say the BLACK rod is the FLAVOR MASTER!
Looks like I need to get with the program!
Atomsk
Floating In My Tin Can
The concern is nice, OF, and you said it yourself, we should be able to asses the risks ourselves.
I don't know where I said a fume hood would protect you from an explosion? I do know, however, that most people who willingly learn to practice caution, practice caution. I know we cannot account for everything, even in lab, and I know you are not omnipotent and don't wanna be.
My pursuit of trate making assumes the best conditions (because that is the only time I would do it), and if you're working in an area with unnecessary electronics running, or in a fucking laundry room, I think we can deduce the caliber of production in these "experts" by their choice of venue.
Granted, you said coffee maker and could mean coffee grinder, which could be necessary, I suppose, if working with heavy volume. If it was a coffee maker, we're back in Mom's kitchen.
I do not seek to express that I, in my infinite wisdom, am above accidents even when 'experts' are not. I'm saying, albeit indirectly first but directly now, that I appreciate the advice of caution, but not the "casual dabbling" attitude, and consequently, ineptitude due to ignorance, that you seem to have implied with me.
I am a dog chasing cars, but I only choose the ones I know I can catch.
Anyways, yes, anyone who wants to make their own should be cautious, studious, and aware that, even in the best of circumstances, Murphy can come along and enforce his law.
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ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I saved a bunch of OG FLOWERS (CALIFORNIA) to convert to SHATTER.
Triple purge is my routine however I'm using less heat and more vacuum so if I don't blow myself up we will discuss further?
This is not OSHA approved!
Atomsk
Floating In My Tin Can
I saved a bunch of OG FLOWERS (CALIFORNIA) to convert to SHATTER.
Triple purge is my routine however I'm using less heat and more vacuum so if I don't blow myself up we will discuss further?
This is not OSHA approved!
Damnit, ataxian, here we are talking about the seriousness of the process and... seriously, a jar of Cornichons? And you have been making amazing shatter????
Oh, buddy. For the sake of saving my writerly sass for the journal, and because you said you're only trying to help, I will save you a scathing reply and have, instead, highlighted the error in your judgement.
Your sole experience cannot be universally applied across the board given the unending variables in this Universe. Simply because you have a product that has always worked for you does not mean that other people (who should always be considered) cannot experience difficulty. I assure you, I sorely wish it were the case that your situation was universal, and that, instead of being in a huff about all this money I've spent with nothing to show, I could be laughing away Porquiplanes** troubles as his incompetence with the product, while breathing more THC than oxygen.
Clearly, this is not the case. Congrats on your phenomenal luck and ease of experience thus far. I hope to see you there one day.
**Porquiplane I do not mean that you have incompetence here, I'm only pointing out the error in Vaporholics logic: that, if someone doesn't share your positive experience with a product, it must be because of that persons incompetence, and not anything wrong with their particular device. Because, again, we're in the same boat, and I'm realllllllly hoping the both of us are not simply incompetent.
Also, if you are a woman, I do not mean that you are a "he."
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