SlinginPaint
As Above ∞ So Below
I had the same problems when I started using the water-path. I slowed my draw even more and that seemed to do the trick for me at least.
Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.
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ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
Sometimes I just need to medicate directly:
5.0 cart on a PERSEI
2.4 cart on a O-PHOS
SKYWALKER
SlinginPaint
As Above ∞ So Below
Yes, much more noticeable effects without using the water path.
On a side note I brought the Persei and a couple 2.4's to Electric Forest Music Festival this past weekend. I was asked to paint for a couple bands over the weekend and my trusty SHORTY went with me everywhere. Was so nice to not have to pack a dowl all weekend. Saw a couple other Omicrons around, but mostly ecigs. I blew a couple kids faces off with some Casey Jones and set some kids straight in the pen-vape game
. Decided to keep a paper clip in my doob-tube for cleaning the flu if it gets gunked up.. saved my ass this weekend.Here's a little shot of the main stage production and my setup
tharealmclovin
Well-Known Member
I actually prefer the 2.4's and you need patience. Watch how little effort I use when pulling. It takes a few seconds for any vapor to get through the tube, that because I am going slow...also notice like 2 bubbles. That piece fires off bubbles, but when I use the persei, I get barely any. The water tool is a little hard to pull, but again Im going slow so I dont really mind.
Yes slow and steady wins the race.
I should also add that the carts I use for my waterpipes dont get used normally again. Since I am really cooking that cart they never taste the same. Except when used in a bubbler. So I have a couple old carts that I will ONLY use with water filtration.
tsc.v8
Active Member
Greetings fellow vaporizer enthusiasts,
I'm jumping in here since I read that you don't mind answering the same questions repeatedly (I assume this has been asked before), and since I wouldn't be able to read over 400 pages of posts looking for the answers I need.
I just joined these forums because I recently bought a Persei. I have loaded 1g hash oil into one cart and .5 wax into the other. Unfortunately, I'm having almost continuous problems with leaking (in the threads at the top/center of the Persei head) and clogging. And even though I've been following directions (for the most part - see below) I constantly have to stick a paperclip down the cart's air tube, and a safety pin in the bottom hole seems to be necessary at times. Sometimes I heat the cart to clear out any clogs (from top of cart (no mouthpiece) to middle of cart and back, until very warm). That does seem to work better than anything else (air comes through very easily at first), but the cart always clogs again within 30 seconds of use. Maybe these clogs come from drawing too hard, or getting the oil too hot (or both, or something else entirely). I wish I knew. I've spent a lot of time during the last 5 days trying to get this working well.
When I hit the Persei (just sipping lightly) it's like slow motion oil gargling. I'm lucky to get a decent puff (occasionally the blockage clears long enough to get a significant amount of vapor). Sometimes drawing harder or softer opens the airway, but never for long.
I should mention that I did blow and suck air trying to clear blockages in both carts, which is a no-no.
So here's my question - is this all my fault? Are there tips/tricks I should know to stop or minimize clogs and leaking (other than what's in the user guide)?
Thanks for your time!
I'm jumping in here since I read that you don't mind answering the same questions repeatedly (I assume this has been asked before), and since I wouldn't be able to read over 400 pages of posts looking for the answers I need.
I just joined these forums because I recently bought a Persei. I have loaded 1g hash oil into one cart and .5 wax into the other. Unfortunately, I'm having almost continuous problems with leaking (in the threads at the top/center of the Persei head) and clogging. And even though I've been following directions (for the most part - see below) I constantly have to stick a paperclip down the cart's air tube, and a safety pin in the bottom hole seems to be necessary at times. Sometimes I heat the cart to clear out any clogs (from top of cart (no mouthpiece) to middle of cart and back, until very warm). That does seem to work better than anything else (air comes through very easily at first), but the cart always clogs again within 30 seconds of use. Maybe these clogs come from drawing too hard, or getting the oil too hot (or both, or something else entirely). I wish I knew. I've spent a lot of time during the last 5 days trying to get this working well.
When I hit the Persei (just sipping lightly) it's like slow motion oil gargling. I'm lucky to get a decent puff (occasionally the blockage clears long enough to get a significant amount of vapor). Sometimes drawing harder or softer opens the airway, but never for long.
I should mention that I did blow and suck air trying to clear blockages in both carts, which is a no-no.
So here's my question - is this all my fault? Are there tips/tricks I should know to stop or minimize clogs and leaking (other than what's in the user guide)?
Thanks for your time!
OF
Well-Known Member
I don't know where you got the idea we don't mind answering the same questions over and over again, IMO that's surely not the case. Nor is it the policy on this forum to make the treads even longer that way, in fact, quite the opposite. From the rules:
- Lurk before posting. Please search and read before posting to see if your topic is already covered.
- Read threads before posting in them. Thread rules may be outlined in the first post.
The short if it is your results are to be expected the way you're going about it. Forget 5 Ohm (and other high power) carts until you master the system using 2.4 Ohm carts at 3.7 Volts. Not just use it, master it. Learn to control the heat and get vapor without leaks and other problems.
Weigh them empty (they vary) and load half a gram (no more) of good quality concentrates (do a 'foil test' if necessary to confirm this), poor quality stuff won't feed right and/or leaks. Usually and. Follow the directions on the D9 site for loading, paying special attention to preheating the center section (where most guys have problems at first). Never do dry burns (no 'pre oxidizing' or 'looking for glow'). Prime carefully. Never prime 6 or 7.4 Volt carts at full voltage. Cool down the cart at the end of the session by drawing cool air in Refill when you get down to .2 grams or so left, don't try to burn the last part out or you'll burn the oil and wreck your seals.
I advise buying a pack of 2.4s and some good concentrates (favor lighter colors and firmer textures) and reading this thread backwards for a while skimming for this sort of useful information. There's a lot of it there. Don't forget the Omicron thread, same carts, same issues.
Good luck.
OF
tsc.v8
Active Member
The repeat post was unintentional. If I knew how to delete it I would. Sorry about that.
Where did I get the idea that you wouldn't mind repeatedly answering questions? I read it in the forums. That is what I said, after all - "I read...". Granted, it was probably just one person speaking for everyone, without authorization
. Also, I did search and I did lurk quite a bit before asking my question in the forums, for what it's worth.
Thanks for the advice in your post.
Where did I get the idea that you wouldn't mind repeatedly answering questions? I read it in the forums. That is what I said, after all - "I read...". Granted, it was probably just one person speaking for everyone, without authorization
. Also, I did search and I did lurk quite a bit before asking my question in the forums, for what it's worth.Thanks for the advice in your post.
friedbanana8
Well-Known Member
The repeat post was unintentional. If I knew how to delete it I would. Sorry about that.
Where did I get the idea that you wouldn't mind repeatedly answering questions? I read it in the forums. That is what I said, after all - "I read...". Granted, it was probably just one person speaking for everyone, without authorization
Thanks for the advice in your post.
I suggest you pulse the button to warm up the cart before you hit it. Its what i always do before taking a hit and ive been getting steady vapor flow without clogs or leaks so far (ive never seen a leak and im starting to wonder if its really that big of an issue). Of course there are moments when less vapor is flowing but by the second or third hit the vapor production jumps back up to normal levels. I've got a nibblerx piece so am able to judge the rate of vapor production easily. You could also attach some tubing to help you judge your vapor produciton till you get your technique down. I usually start pulsing at a rate of a second on and off, and increase the speed i pulse at as i proceed to warm up the cart; with the 2.4ohm'ers it takes 5-10 pulses to warm up before proceeding to take a hit with each subsequent hit in the session requiring less warm up time. Im currently running (3) 1.5ohm'ers which i warm up by half second pulses on and off. Only the first of the three that i filled up (tahoe og) was giving me some clogging issue, but ive since learned to control the rate i warm these carts up by pulsing. Two of these are really sticky wax (OG sap and Tahoe OG) and the third cart has some strawberry cough which is more on the playdough side in consistency. It takes more time to heat up the strawberry cough but never more than 5-10 pulses. With these 1.5carts my nibbler fills up quick by me just pulsing it a few times so i never have to hold the button down for more than a second and a half after its warmed up before my nibbler fills up to the brim with heavenly white vapor.
PhotoRider
Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
Simply pollen from a screen or keif in a pollen press with wax added, then heated and pressed. Can be sliced and broken up to use
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
Came out a bit wet however the effect of the medicine is veyr medicating!
This was made to use the HERCULES V1.
Kind of like hash however DIY style!
kindbeats
Terps Up, Temps Down
The term "essential oils" refers to concentrates such as BHO in all of its various forms and lab made concentrates such as Pure Gold.
tsc.v8
Active Member
I have been using your method and it has led me to develop better control of my hits. I coordinate "draw strength" adjustments with your brand of heat level management, and now I can tell this vape is going to work for me after all - there are no more clogs when I preheat! Thanks for your help - I don't feel like I wasted my money anymore. Long live the Persei!
friedbanana8
Well-Known Member
no problem, glad i could help. It'd also be good to mention that 2.4ohm'ers are the best for tasty hits. I also think you'll come to find that you really dont need more vapor production than what a 2.4ohm'er can produce. I bought a lot of 1.5 and 5.0ohm'ers at the 4/20 sale before i really had my technique down and now feel like i gotta go through these carts first before i grab for more 2.4ohm'ers or i'd keep choosing a 2.4ohm'er over them everytime. My tolerance is gonna be pretty jacked up by the time i vape my way through all these carts lol.
Guys while the tester recovers he will chime in soon about the SR-71.
Here is what i know so far.
Improper assembly did screw up two tops and a bottom spring, once we did a Skype session he was back up and running.
I will let him chime in once he recovers.
Here is what i know so far.
Improper assembly did screw up two tops and a bottom spring, once we did a Skype session he was back up and running.
I will let him chime in once he recovers.
PhotoRider
Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
LOL
It would be interesting to hear his opinion before and after he recovers - insight on what to expect
It would be interesting to hear his opinion before and after he recovers - insight on what to expect
Darb
Well-Known Member
He already has the SR-71 added to his signature. I was wondering if there had been an early release...
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
Here are my first two videos. feel free to ask questions
first assembly and impressions
EDiT
not ready yet, but soon
first assembly and impressions
EDiT
not ready yet, but soon
kindbeats
Terps Up, Temps Down
Sweet, Bob! Four questions for you if you don't mind.
1. How long of a heat up time does the new Herc require before it starts to produce serious vapor?
2. How is the taste in comparison to other carts (or the original Herc)?
3. Like yourself, I'm an extremely frequent and heavy hitter. How much have you been loading at a time and how approximately how long does a load last?
4. Have you tried any of the old tanks in the new Herc to compare the difference between the coil and the tanks?
Thanks brotha! Keep getting ripped for us in the name of science!
