Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

Atomsk

Floating In My Tin Can
You will be so pleased!
I'm so picky as well.
I like TOP SHELF.
PERSEI fits my life style so well. (Stealth and so so POWERFUL!)
Playing with the battery set ups adds so many possibilities.
Once you get it down the HERCULES will knock you out!
When the IRIS V2 comes out I'm all over it!

Definitely! I ordered mine with the SS Kit so I can already try your set up off the bat.

In terms of stealth, how is this thing with odor? I know a lot of people have this misconception that vapor has no smell, but I've found that vaping herb in my EQ gives off a similarly pungent, if short lived, aroma. I know how hash smells burning, but how is it when vaping?
 

kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
Definitely! I ordered mine with the SS Kit so I can already try your set up off the bat.

In terms of stealth, how is this thing with odor? I know a lot of people have this misconception that vapor has no smell, but I've found that vaping herb in my EQ gives off a similarly pungent, if short lived, aroma. I know how hash smells burning, but how is it when vaping?

Congrats on the new purchase! Regardless of what people say, there is definitely a smell upon exhaling. The odor may dissipate quickly, but it smells none the less. However, some people say that Pure Gold has no noticeable odor but I can't corroborate that since it isn't available where I live.
 

Porquiplane

Look Into My Eyes
Congrats on the new purchase! Regardless of what people say, there is definitely a smell upon exhaling. The odor may dissipate quickly, but it smells none the less. However, some people say that Pure Gold has no noticeable odor but I can't corroborate that since it isn't available where I live.

PureGold vaped will smell like oranges on exhale. Or some type of citrus or citric cleaner. And dissipates very quickly. Say a minute to five minutes at most.

So yes, Puregold does smell. But absolutely minimal compared to flowers or any other concentrate that anyone nearby has ever used.
 

Atomsk

Floating In My Tin Can
Congrats on the new purchase! Regardless of what people say, there is definitely a smell upon exhaling. The odor may dissipate quickly, but it smells none the less. However, some people say that Pure Gold has no noticeable odor but I can't corroborate that since it isn't available where I live.
Thanks! A lot of people like to say vapor doesn't smell, I think they just mean it doesn't smell as much. Learned the hard way in my old dorm room ripping bag after bag.

PureGold vaped will smell like oranges on exhale. Or some type of citrus or citric cleaner. And dissipates very quickly. Say a minute to five minutes at most.

So yes, Puregold does smell. But absolutely minimal compared to flowers or any other concentrate that anyone nearby has ever used.

That sounds perfect for situations requiring absolute stealth. What are your opinions on PG? Is it strong enough or worth the 80/G it is at most places?
 
Atomsk,

Porquiplane

Look Into My Eyes
That sounds perfect for situations requiring absolute stealth. What are your opinions on PG? Is it strong enough or worth the 80/G it is at most places?

Yeah. Thats a good price. Even getting it where it isnt exactly "released" its 50 per. And for what you get its prime.
IMO Its always consistant,i.e, you can have one 5 second pull and itll have X desired effect. Now if you have another 5 seconder you could near expect the same result GIVEN that its PG. Any other strain of wax/oil etc will vary from strain to strain. PG will be near the same tube to tube. As for stealth, if thats your game, its probably the best IMO for smell (vaped and raw) and size (sneaky squeeze tubes). But near everyone on here knows porquiplane will rep the shit out of PG. Just works the best for what its needed for.

OWEVER, even at current there is issues with PG and the standard carts. Being that d-limonene or something in PG swells silicone. And it leaks, like a night after being in vegas. Jokes aside, its just very thin 'trate. However the 1701 carts should solve this. Lets hope they go for testing/production soon, just lost the last 3 carts in a five set to PG leaks. :( so sad.
 
Porquiplane,

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Thanks! A lot of people like to say vapor doesn't smell, I think they just mean it doesn't smell as much. Learned the hard way in my old dorm room ripping bag after bag.



That sounds perfect for situations requiring absolute stealth. What are your opinions on PG? Is it strong enough or worth the 80/G it is at most places?

In ORANGE COUNTY PG is $70.00 per gram.
It's really good however the CO2 waxes are less than $45.00 per gram and work better in the carts.
At least I have not had any issues with the CO2 Wax.
The GIRL SCOUT COOKIES WAX $50.00 per gram however so gourmet the flavor is amazing.

I thought medicine was suppose to taste bad?
 

Atomsk

Floating In My Tin Can
Thanks for the input guys. I'll happily try the PG when the 1701's or Herc 7.4 are up in working order.

In the Omicron thread THC said
Glad it is working follow the simple rules and it the cartridges will work for a long time.

Always fill about .5 - .6 use the good stuff. Black looking things dont work that great

I'm wondering if the stuff I'm eyeing is any good according to the "black looking things" statement:
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Dragon Fruit

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Chem Dawg

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Snow Cap

Are these black and therefore no good for continual use of the same cart?
 
Atomsk,

lockie

Well-Known Member
To my knowledge, waxes that look yellowish/blonde are higher quality and would be great for the cart. The chem dawg looks the best out the of three IMO. You should try to figure out what type of waxes they are before you purchase them as well. Cheapest wax I get is 50/2g which is BHO made from a delivery service and that has been working pretty well with the carts recently but I'm going to try out different types of waxes to attempt to achieve even better results.

Through experience, I recommend not buying anything less than 20/g unless you got a good hook up or something cause they usually contain bad stuff that the carts don't process too good and will clog/leak. I've tried something called Dabbers Delight and it didn't work too great with the carts after extended use.
 
lockie,

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Thanks for the input guys. I'll happily try the PG when the 1701's or Herc 7.4 are up in working order.

In the Omicron thread THC said


I'm wondering if the stuff I'm eyeing is any good according to the "black looking things" statement:
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Dragon Fruit

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Chem Dawg

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Snow Cap

Are these black and therefore no good for continual use of the same cart?

I've use Crumbled, Honey Comb, Brittle, Budder all blonde in color.

Well purged with the least amount of impurities.

The darker materials normally have excessive plant material so I stay away from them.

Growers make so much ISO/CO2/BHO Oils & waxes our choices have never been better.

I like flowers however I love concentrates.

Stealth Fast Effective = Concentrates

PERSEI = MEDICAL DEVICE for Concentrates

http://legalmarijuanadispensary.com/dispensaries/california/santa-ana/rite-greens-santa-ana
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ataxian,

Atomsk

Floating In My Tin Can
To my knowledge, waxes that look yellowish/blonde are higher quality and would be great for the cart. The chem dawg looks the best out the of three IMO. You should try to figure out what type of waxes they are before you purchase them as well. Cheapest wax I get is 50/2g which is BHO made from a delivery service and that has been working pretty well with the carts recently but I'm going to try out different types of waxes to attempt to achieve even better results.

Through experience, I recommend not buying anything less than 20/g unless you got a good hook up or something cause they usually contain bad stuff that the carts don't process too good and will clog/leak. I've tried something called Dabbers Delight and it didn't work too great with the carts after extended use.
50 for 2G's of BHO? Cripes man, you're living my dream. Are you in NorCal / LA / Colorado? San Diego is terrible when it comes to concentrate availability, price, and quality. You're looking at anywhere from 50-75/G and even then sometimes it's not very good quality. I feel like I need to to take a pilgrimage to the greater northern Thc temples and see what real wax at fair pricing is all about.

I've use Crumbled, Honey Comb, Brittle, Budder all blonde in color.

Well purged with the least amount of impurities.

The darker materials normally have excessive plant material so I stay away from them.

Growers make so much ISO/CO2/BHO Oils & waxes our choices have never been better.

I like flowers however I love concentrates.

Stealth Fast Effective = Concentrates

PERSEI = MEDICAL DEVICE for Concentrates

http://legalmarijuanadispensary.com/dispensaries/california/santa-ana/rite-greens-santa-ana
1355514613-121212R020
1360182531-130201S003.jpg
130122U16926397.jpg
1360184965-130201S001.jpg
130118R01125945.jpg

ataxian, good sir, you have persuaded me down the crumble, budder road. I'll be looking for this type stuff now. I was avoiding them before because they seemed to be at more difficult consistencies to load and prime. Oh well, no pain no gain I suppose.

I really need to get to LA / San Francisco and just stock up on high quality. The Delivery dispensaries in SD are terribly inconvenient, awkward, and sketchy. They don't even deliver to my area most of the time which is problematic. I'm sure this will all seem better when I've got nice clouds coming from my Persei.
 

lockie

Well-Known Member
Yeah I live in Bay Area, NorCal. The wax I get isn't as blonde as the one ataxian showed. I think the 25/g wax isn't the highest of quality but it gets the job done so I'm not complaining. For wax as blonde as the ones ataxian showed, it'll usually go for 45/g but those types and general color is what you should be looking for the cartridges since it will most likely cause less clogs/leaks and produce better results as long as you follow the typical rules for loading/priming and button timing usage.
You should definitely look into trying out the deliveries in NorCal if you get a chance since most of them provide decent first time gifts and pretty good bulk offers. I usually buy 3g and get 1 free or a sale for 2g, whatever works at the time. I just had to go through like 20 weedmaps websites close to my area to find the good few which I thought had good deals.
 
lockie,

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
50 for 2G's of BHO? Cripes man, you're living my dream. Are you in NorCal / LA / Colorado? San Diego is terrible when it comes to concentrate availability, price, and quality. You're looking at anywhere from 50-75/G and even then sometimes it's not very good quality. I feel like I need to to take a pilgrimage to the greater northern Thc temples and see what real wax at fair pricing is all about.



ataxian, good sir, you have persuaded me down the crumble, budder road. I'll be looking for this type stuff now. I was avoiding them before because they seemed to be at more difficult consistencies to load and prime. Oh well, no pain no gain I suppose.

I really need to get to LA / San Francisco and just stock up on high quality. The Delivery dispensaries in SD are terribly inconvenient, awkward, and sketchy. They don't even deliver to my area most of the time which is problematic. I'm sure this will all seem better when I've got nice clouds coming from my Persei.
Seriously since I went down this path of blonde I haven't had one clog or leak!
Flavor, Effect, Duration yes!
If it will melt it will load!
{Crumbled; Budder; Brittle; Honeycomb; CO2 Oil} no problems!
Quality is so important.
When you go cheap you actually loose!

Think Cost in Use!

A $50.00 Gram of GIRL SCOUT COOKIES WAX last me much longer than a $40 Gram of lesser quality.
 

mrmojo62

Member
For those that are interested, some of my herc replacement parts arrived yesterday and they look stunning. the fit an finish is immaculate, and i don't think the plastic breakage will happen again. i don't think the plastic burned before; if mine is any indication, the combination of delrin and the oils do a very good job of locking threads and making it virtually impossible to unscrew the pieces from each other. which leads to too much force and things breaking, not that i would EVER do such a thing. no not me. the only real problem i had was with bases breaking: some wires broke and some just went poof! but this looks much more sturdy as well and as long as the metal doesn't break free from the housing, it should be perfect.

this looks like a great fix by d9 and whats really scary is if the crappy outside parts look this good, just imagine what the revamped heater will do!!


many thanks and much appreciation!
 

wootze

Well-Known Member
Just got my hercules replacement parts...lordamercy ..this is some expensive shit right here! <:o)

This shit is good to something like 500 Fahrenheit.

Do yall realize just how above and beyond these guys went?

Ima change my sig to herc when away from the wall.

Edit. 620F
 

ictus

Well-Known Member
What exactly is the "SS upgrade"? I see the pages on Delta9 but they just confuse me, like much of this modular stuff.
SS upgrade page:

"Kit includes

1 x 18350 Tube
1 x 18650 Tube without adjustable plate.
1 x Upgraded bottom cap."



Then I look back at the regular Persei product page:


  • 1 x Persei Body
  • 1 x Persei Single Top
  • 1 x Persei Double Top
  • 1 x IMR 18650 Battery.
  • 2 x IMR 18350 Batteries.
  • 1 x Li Ion Battery Charger.
  • 2 x 5.0ohm Cartridge. (essential oils only)
  • 2 x Aluminum Mouth pieces
  • 1 x Fill tool.
  • 1 x adjustment tool
It also says " It has a double cartridge capability for the person who likes to have alot of vapor at the same time".
So for somebody buying a new Persei, is there any reason to get the SS upgrade? What exactly does SS get you?
I guess I don't understand what an 18350 tube is? I thought it was a kind of battery, but here it's being called a tube? Or is that like a different body for the batteries to go in? I feel like I am still not understanding something.


Also I don't see "Omicron Cartridges" on the delta9 webstie. I see "Omicron Vaporizers" that look to include battery packs just like the Persei itself. The only place I see raw "cartridges" there is no omicron name associated, just "cartridges".
 
ictus,

Puffers

Micro-Climate Mastermind
@ ictus
The carts are all the same omicron or persei.

The SS upgrade is a kit with different shorter body tubes that hold the batteries to make the persei smaller and increase portablitly/stealth. Ther are some pictures posted of the SS setup in the last page or so. Someone posted a pic that included the SS persei with a dbl cart on it.
 
Puffers,

mrmojo62

Member
Just got my hercules replacement parts...lordamercy ..this is some expensive shit right here! <:o)

This shit is good to something like 500 Fahrenheit.

Do yall realize just how above and beyond these guys went?

Ima change my sig to herc when away from the wall.

Edit. 620F
second

while playing with mine yesterday, the outer shell never got excessively hot to the touch nor did it develop hot spots like the old one does; the heat seems more uniform along the tube.

the threads are also smooooooooooooooooooooooooth. for me at least, the iris helps me work the herc properly, without a lot of waste, so i'm not having the oil build up like i used to, but the threads are just effortless to turn.

i'm thinking that no one is going to be unhappy when this is all said and done.
 

mrmojo62

Member
to be honest bob, i'm not sure that the problems we have faced with the herc aren't due to our ignorance on how to use it properly. since i've been using the iris and playing with voltages, i've been able to be much more subtle with the herc, so that i don't have pools of oil bubbling all over the place and i have had virtually no oil on the outsides of the ss heater or top part. i think the regular persei top (and the aptly named hammer) are tools that are too blunt for most of us to use as intended with the hercules. this is certainly true for me. the iris gives me much more control over vapor production and more importantly more control over how high the heat goes and so how quickly it CEASES production of vapor. if i'm reading G correctly, the oil pools, drips, whatever that we have seen are mostly due to vapor being produced but not being inhaled, so as i have gained more control of the vapor production, i have ceased to leave behind large la brea tar pits of reclaim because the voltages are lower and i'm able to get all the vapor produced.

oh and don't even start with me about the flavor. omfg!

its a beautiful thing

altho the large amounts of very nice reclaim were like a christmas present or a big tax return, its all the same in the end, i guess.
 

Atomsk

Floating In My Tin Can
Just got my Persei in today. Lot smaller than I thought it'd be, and graciously so when I put on my SSkit. Got the batteries juicing up, but I did have a problem / defect with my dual head.

Some white crusty substance is bordered around one of the screw-in ports as well as a bluish green tinge around the top thread. Washed my hands immediately as it looks like what car battery build up looks like. I'm guessing this is calcium? Anyone know if this will effect use? I'm not trying to plug a cart in to it and have the whole thing fry. I'm pretty disappointed about it.
 
Atomsk,

mrmojo62

Member
ok one more bit of herc erotica (as opposed to picture porn) the black color on the new parts is VERY matte, has little to no reflection and just seems to absorb light, so it doesn't' attract attention.

if anyone ever asks me what it is, i'm thinking of saying its an e-cigar. cubano. romeo y julietta.

lol
 

Bob Loblaw

Astralnaut
Just got my Persei in today. Lot smaller than I thought it'd be, and graciously so when I put on my SSkit. Got the batteries juicing up, but I did have a problem / defect with my dual head.

Some white crusty substance is bordered around one of the screw-in ports as well as a bluish green tinge around the top thread. Washed my hands immediately as it looks like what car battery build up looks like. I'm guessing this is calcium? Anyone know if this will effect use? I'm not trying to plug a cart in to it and have the whole thing fry. I'm pretty disappointed about it.
sorry to hear about the bad package.
where'd you get it from?

nice thing 'bout these guys is it's all covered. open ticket, send in defect part w/ copy of reciept and bam, new head. it'll give some time to get used to single use while you are waiting.

to be honest bob, i'm not sure that the problems we have faced with the herc aren't due to our ignorance on how to use it properly. since i've been using the iris and playing with voltages, i've been able to be much more subtle with the herc, so that i don't have pools of oil bubbling all over the place and i have had virtually no oil on the outsides of the ss heater or top part. i think the regular persei top (and the aptly named hammer) are tools that are too blunt for most of us to use as intended with the hercules. this is certainly true for me. the iris gives me much more control over vapor production and more importantly more control over how high the heat goes and so how quickly it CEASES production of vapor. if i'm reading G correctly, the oil pools, drips, whatever that we have seen are mostly due to vapor being produced but not being inhaled, so as i have gained more control of the vapor production, i have ceased to leave behind large la brea tar pits of reclaim because the voltages are lower and i'm able to get all the vapor produced.

oh and don't even start with me about the flavor. omfg!

its a beautiful thing

altho the large amounts of very nice reclaim were like a christmas present or a big tax return, its all the same in the end, i guess.
lol, great to hear brotha, keep it up and keep us updated!
 
Bob Loblaw,

Atomsk

Floating In My Tin Can
sorry to hear about the bad package.
where'd you get it from?

nice thing 'bout these guys is it's all covered. open ticket, send in defect part w/ copy of reciept and bam, new head. it'll give some time to get used to single use while you are waiting.

I actually got it from D9V themselves so all things should go smoothly. You're right Bob, I get more practice time with the single head. I'm just terrible with waiting for snail-mail.

Otherwise this thing is looking more beautiful by the minute. Got my carts filled with some kind so now I play the bonus round in the Waiting Game.

Happy Monday to all.
 

VapeStL

Active Member
What exactly is the "SS upgrade"? I see the pages on Delta9 but they just confuse me, like much of this modular stuff.
SS upgrade page:

"Kit includes

1 x 18350 Tube
1 x 18650 Tube without adjustable plate.
1 x Upgraded bottom cap."



Then I look back at the regular Persei product page:


  • 1 x Persei Body
  • 1 x Persei Single Top
  • 1 x Persei Double Top
  • 1 x IMR 18650 Battery.
  • 2 x IMR 18350 Batteries.
  • 1 x Li Ion Battery Charger.
  • 2 x 5.0ohm Cartridge. (essential oils only)
  • 2 x Aluminum Mouth pieces
  • 1 x Fill tool.
  • 1 x adjustment tool
It also says " It has a double cartridge capability for the person who likes to have alot of vapor at the same time".

So for somebody buying a new Persei, is there any reason to get the SS upgrade? What exactly does SS get you?
I guess I don't understand what an 18350 tube is? I thought it was a kind of battery, but here it's being called a tube? Or is that like a different body for the batteries to go in? I feel like I am still not understanding something.


Also I don't see "Omicron Cartridges" on the delta9 webstie. I see "Omicron Vaporizers" that look to include battery packs just like the Persei itself. The only place I see raw "cartridges" there is no omicron name associated, just "cartridges".


I recently bought a used Persei. It was simply a Persei head, plus 2 different SS tubes: 18350 & 18650. If you are new to this & want the full meal deal, buy the $200 Persei kit.

The Persei SS kit that you mention above doesn't come with the head...just 2 spare metal tubes.
 
VapeStL,
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