Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

[lonelyhero]

Both should be available separately. Its quite ridiculous that a piece they consider "consumable" (and only last me 6 weeks) is not sold separately. So for me to replace my tiny spring loaded center pin it will cost $20.83!!! Its INSANE. Especially considering I do not need the center post. I want to order 1/2 dozen pins and not have to worry about them for awhile, is that too much to ask?

The spring loaded center pin shouldn't be going bad that fast mine lasted months of daily use and usually only went bad after a friend had dumped oil into the lower chamber a couple times but once I got my hands on the 71 I never looked back lol

 

[OC513]

NO idea why mine went, I use low wattage and had the thing set up what seemed to be perfectly, exactly like Gary shows on his video and always read .8 ohms on my meter. It got gummed up a few times but an iso soak fixed that, now the spring is completely dead, iso wont bring it back. Its crazy to me that it costs $20 to replace.

 

[lonelyhero]

NO idea why mine went, I use low wattage and had the thing set up what seemed to be perfectly, exactly like Gary shows on his video and always read .8 ohms on my meter. It got gummed up a few times but an iso soak fixed that, now the spring is completely dead, iso wont bring it back. Its crazy to me that it costs $20 to replace.

I think It's the oil getting in it that kills it mine would die if that happened more than 2-3 times Iso only fixes it a few times in my experience

 

[OC513]

I think It's the oil getting in it that kills it mine would die if that happened more than 2-3 times Iso only fixes it a few times in my experience

Even more reason they should be sold separately. I love their products but the shipping and handling fees on smaller items are just killer, the center post goes from $9.99 to $20.83 after shipping and handling fees.

 

[elmoe420]

Even more reason they should be sold separately. I love their products but the shipping and handling fees on smaller items are just killer, the center post goes from $9.99 to $20.83 after shipping and handling fees.

I would contact CS and see what they can do for you. I totally agree that the shipping and handling is steep and I typically only order from w9tech.com when I have a batch of stuff to make it worth it.

As to why people have so much trouble with the floating center pin in the SR-74 I have no idea. I still have my original from 3 years ago and it still works perfectly. I agree with @lonelyhero that the press-fit design of the SR-71 is impossible to break although less convenient to use (it always pulls out when I unscrew the lower chamber).

 

[Beanporn]

That looks like it will accommodate the nibbler still. @THC SCIENTIFIC do you have plans to redesign the nibbler. Or will the existing one possibly work with that body. Looks like it would. Very cool stuff cannot wait to see more =)

It looks like it might require something to elevate it from the base so there is room for the nibbler to attach. I am hopeful that will be considered when finalizing design on this. It would be nice to be able to use the xl and not have to purchase another piece.

 

[jsnstanley]

Having that set up already, I would say the lower/recessed base is more ideal for keeping the Herc more compact. I would prefer a bubbler designed specifically for this application. A Nibbler ‘X' and the ‘G' as well, already will adapt to the top of the Hercules with proper silicon mouthpiece covers to seal. But It starts getting tall and not easily pocketable attached so I have to have the ‘G’ in pocket separate from the battery mod clunking around.
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[DrRishi]

@THC SCIENTIFIC & @SamuraiSam you guys should really try to sell the gold plated center pins alone. It sucks to have to buy the entire center post just to get the spring piece. I cant see the center post needing replacement anywhere near as often as the spring loaded pin. I am 6 weeks in and my spring has already collapsed, I dont ever go above 24 watts, usually at like 22.5, so I have no idea why it collapsed already. But if they continue to do so I will end up having tons of center posts sitting around cause all I really need is the spring loaded pin!!

I have actually stopped replacing the centre post. I have also noticed that they collapse pretty quickly but by careful positioning of the ceramic rod I can get a good contact and it never gives me any contact problems.

I let the rod stick out maybe 1mm more than recommended and very carefully screw the 2 halves of the Herc together. Once it's in position it works fine for weeks on end.

 

[OC513]

I have actually stopped replacing the centre post. I have also noticed that they collapse pretty quickly but by careful positioning of the ceramic rod I can get a good contact and it never gives me any contact problems.

I let the rod stick out maybe 1mm more than recommended and very carefully screw the 2 halves of the Herc together. Once it's in position it works fine for weeks on end.

Yes this is exactly what I am doing now. But I rely on the Herc for my Crohns disease and worry that at any point the connection may stop working and I wont be able to medicate on the go which would be VERY bad for me. So I want to order a new pin but the shipping and handling fees just make it ridiculous.

 

[DrRishi]

I am lucky enough not to need it medically but I run 2 Hercs which are used daily by my wife and myself. I have never had a connection problem with the centre post.

I agree that it would be much better to have a SR71 style post or something that doesn't collapse so easily.

 

[OC513]

I am lucky enough not to need it medically but I run 2 Hercs which are used daily by my wife and myself. I have never had a connection problem with the centre post.

I agree that it would be much better to have a SR71 style post or something that doesn't collapse so easily.

I dont even mind that it collapses, but if thats the case and it is considered by the manufacturer to be a consumable item then sell it alone and dont charge $7 shipping and then another $2.99 "handling fee". It literally doubles the price of a "consumable" item. I would love to be able to order a 1/2 dozen of them and not have to worry about it for awhile.

 

[SamuraiSam]

Both should be available separately. Its quite ridiculous that a piece they consider "consumable" (and only last me 6 weeks) is not sold separately. So for me to replace my tiny spring loaded center pin it will cost $20.83!!! Its INSANE. Especially considering I do not need the center post. I want to order 1/2 dozen pins and not have to worry about them for awhile, is that too much to ask?

NO idea why mine went, I use low wattage and had the thing set up what seemed to be perfectly, exactly like Gary shows on his video and always read .8 ohms on my meter. It got gummed up a few times but an iso soak fixed that, now the spring is completely dead, iso wont bring it back. Its crazy to me that it costs $20 to replace.

I've had good luck restoring gummed up spring loaded pins by putting them in a small zippered sandwich bag with 99% alcohol, sealing it, dipping in near boiling water, pulling it out, and squeezing the pin to actuate its travel.

If it doesn't come back to life after through cleaning, one likely culprit of the spring's failure may be that the ceramic rod was installed too far down, causing excessive pressure on the spring. The spring doesn't tend to wear out quickly when the rod is installed properly, "up" high enough to prevent over compression. I'd like to look at your rod placement over videoconference, if you're game we can try out an alternate Hercules assembly method to check clearances. The same method can be used to help dial in placement with a collapsed spring and I can help ensure a new post's longest life. My Skype ID is samuraisam33 , if you'd like to reach out.

I dont even mind that it collapses, but if thats the case and it is considered by the manufacturer to be a consumable item then sell it alone and dont charge $7 shipping and then another $2.99 "handling fee". It literally doubles the price of a "consumable" item. I would love to be able to order a 1/2 dozen of them and not have to worry about it for awhile.

Please don't think I'm ignoring it, I must ask regarding your request to isolate the spring loaded pin. Regarding shipping you're welcome to purchase a half dozen posts at the same time to lessen the impact of the shipping cost on a small order if you'd like. Our shipping costs go to the USPS in their entirety, you can check the price they ask for Priority Mail shipping with a Signature Requirement at https://postcalc.usps.com/ with our address (and complete shipping details at https://www.w9tech.com/shipping-returns/ )

$2.99 is a handling fee to cover the cost of handling the order. That starts with our Shipworks shipping computer, the label printer and label, baggies, peanuts, mailers, boxes, tape, shipper's wages, and mail room fees. I might be forgetting a few items in there- I don't work in shipping and might be missing something.

If we shipped First Class mail (which we've done in the past) there'd be an exponential increase in the amount of lost packages (and reported undelivered packages) that are the inevitable result of forgoing a tracked, insured, signature required-upon-delivery shipping method. The cost paid to from a customer to USPS would be less, and our expenses would go up exponentially:

1. We'd have many more customers asking for reshipments of uninsured items they did not receive. There's far less reports of lost items when both parties are provided tracking information and can easily see the shipment's progress, attempted delivery times, actual delivery time and who signed for it. There's far less reported shipments that "never made it" when packages aren't left on door steps or in mail boxes for criminally motivated folks to find. "Sorry we missed you" slips are left instead and there's no easier place to visit than the post office to pick up a package if you aren't available to sign for it when the delivery is attempted.

2. Without tracked, insured shipping, our 'second shipment' costs per issue increase. Lower cost items like spring loaded pins that might cost a fraction of what a vaporizer does have a much smaller profit potential, and that profit is eliminated if we have no chance of reimbursement through the shipper. If we have to send out a second Omicron package because a First Class Mail shipment was left in a mailbox, we're losing money on that transaction.

The result is that we'd have to raise the cost of our products to offset the increased losses that go hand in hand with less costly shipping. And while the high of shipping might be frustrating initially, the headaches prevented by shipping this way greatly outweigh the few dollars worth of frustration. If they do not then I would be happy to help find a retailer that carries the part you're looking for so you don't have to stress further about w9tech.com's shipping policies. Please write support@w9tech.com if I can help with anything further!

 

[StormyPinkness]

Wow, big reply at 4am, go to bed @SamuraiSam

When you get up though do I order this to get my 601 herc going on the new 510 persei?

https://www.w9tech.com/cartridges/hercules/510-to-601-hercules-adapter-bottom-insulator/

I'll probably grab 2 and finally get a herc 71 to play with, I've always wanted to try it. So.... when's that new persei coming out?

 

[elmoe420]

Wow, big reply at 4am, go to bed @SamuraiSam

When you get up though do I order this to get my 601 herc going on the new 510 persei?

https://www.w9tech.com/cartridges/hercules/510-to-601-hercules-adapter-bottom-insulator/

I'll probably grab 2 and finally get a herc 71 to play with, I've always wanted to try it. So.... when's that new persei coming out?

Yep that is what you need. If you are picking up an SR-71 though you can buy it with native 510 threading over on puffitup.com. This is how I got my 71 and then I bought that adapter you linked for my 74.

 

[SamuraiSam]

Wow, big reply at 4am, go to bed @SamuraiSam

When you get up though do I order this to get my 601 herc going on the new 510 persei?

https://www.w9tech.com/cartridges/hercules/510-to-601-hercules-adapter-bottom-insulator/

I'll probably grab 2 and finally get a herc 71 to play with, I've always wanted to try it. So.... when's that new persei coming out?

Thanks for looking out, its a crazy travel filled dual wedding couple of weekends for me here. At least I have some Omicron on hand for these ferry rides and a Hercules for the next two evenings away from home. As for your questions,

Yep that is what you need.

As for the new Persei I have no news to share beyond what @THC SCIENTIFIC has already; more news when he drops it

 

[OC513]

I've had good luck restoring gummed up spring loaded pins by putting them in a small zippered sandwich bag with 99% alcohol, sealing it, dipping in near boiling water, pulling it out, and squeezing the pin to actuate its travel.

If it doesn't come back to life after through cleaning, one likely culprit of the spring's failure may be that the ceramic rod was installed too far down, causing excessive pressure on the spring. The spring doesn't tend to wear out quickly when the rod is installed properly, "up" high enough to prevent over compression. I'd like to look at your rod placement over videoconference, if you're game we can try out an alternate Hercules assembly method to check clearances. The same method can be used to help dial in placement with a collapsed spring and I can help ensure a new post's longest life. My Skype ID is samuraisam33 , if you'd like to reach out.

Please don't think I'm ignoring it, I must ask regarding your request to isolate the spring loaded pin. Regarding shipping you're welcome to purchase a half dozen posts at the same time to lessen the impact of the shipping cost on a small order if you'd like. Our shipping costs go to the USPS in their entirety, you can check the price they ask for Priority Mail shipping with a Signature Requirement at https://postcalc.usps.com/ with our address (and complete shipping details at https://www.w9tech.com/shipping-returns/ )

$2.99 is a handling fee to cover the cost of handling the order. That starts with our Shipworks shipping computer, the label printer and label, baggies, peanuts, mailers, boxes, tape, shipper's wages, and mail room fees. I might be forgetting a few items in there- I don't work in shipping and might be missing something.

If we shipped First Class mail (which we've done in the past) there'd be an exponential increase in the amount of lost packages (and reported undelivered packages) that are the inevitable result of forgoing a tracked, insured, signature required-upon-delivery shipping method. The cost paid to from a customer to USPS would be less, and our expenses would go up exponentially:

1. We'd have many more customers asking for reshipments of uninsured items they did not receive. There's far less reports of lost items when both parties are provided tracking information and can easily see the shipment's progress, attempted delivery times, actual delivery time and who signed for it. There's far less reported shipments that "never made it" when packages aren't left on door steps or in mail boxes for criminally motivated folks to find. "Sorry we missed you" slips are left instead and there's no easier place to visit than the post office to pick up a package if you aren't available to sign for it when the delivery is attempted.

2. Without tracked, insured shipping, our 'second shipment' costs per issue increase. Lower cost items like spring loaded pins that might cost a fraction of what a vaporizer does have a much smaller profit potential, and that profit is eliminated if we have no chance of reimbursement through the shipper. If we have to send out a second Omicron package because a First Class Mail shipment was left in a mailbox, we're losing money on that transaction.

The result is that we'd have to raise the cost of our products to offset the increased losses that go hand in hand with less costly shipping. And while the high of shipping might be frustrating initially, the headaches prevented by shipping this way greatly outweigh the few dollars worth of frustration. If they do not then I would be happy to help find a retailer that carries the part you're looking for so you don't have to stress further about w9tech.com's shipping policies. Please write support@w9tech.com if I can help with anything further!

Sam I appreciate the response and understand all this. None of this however addresses selling the pins separately from the center post. I also feel that your point makes sense for many items on your website but not the smaller things. There really isnt a reason to require a signature for a $9.99 item. It can have tracking without the sig and I think both parties can feel fairly safe. To also tack on a $2.99 handling fee is not too bad on a more expensive item but on a $9.99 item it is 30%. We all deal with many companies over the internet and I would say in my experince the way W9 does it goes against the norm. Maybe have the option where people can e sign they understand the risks but choose to just have tracking and a lesser shipping fee. Just a thought. I love you guys and your products and have probably sold a dozen Hercs thru word of mouth in the last few weeks, I just have some issues with the shipping and handling on smalller items. I regularly refer to G as a genius and say that I have never had CS as good as you sir, so thank you to both of you. Now lets see if we can get those fees lowered. hahahaha

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[xtwistedmetal]

@SamuraiSam & @THC SCIENTIFIC The new Persei is looking great. Can't wait for that baby to be finished. Being side loaded is going to be real nice for the Hercules, going to make it look much more stealthy and all around nicer. My only concern is with the 510 connector being recessed so low is not being able to use my Alpha Centauri on it. It would be great if some sort of adapter was bundled with it to move the 510 up top almost flat with the upper part of the mod. I was thinking of something to this affect, it might be real nice.

Make it to almost the diameter of the insert and have a 510 male at the bottom and a 510 female at top to bring the connection up top to be able to use with other attachments that are not long enough to fit. Maybe have it matching materials or something so it looks all nice and uniform. But this would allow people to have 1 device for the Herculus and then they can also use it for the Alpha Centauri or whatever else people find a use for it with.

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

@SamuraiSam & @THC SCIENTIFIC The new Persei is looking great. Can't wait for that baby to be finished. Being side loaded is going to be real nice for the Hercules, going to make it look much more stealthy and all around nicer. My only concern is with the 510 connector being recessed so low is not being able to use my Alpha Centauri on it. It would be great if some sort of adapter was bundled with it to move the 510 up top almost flat with the upper part of the mod. I was thinking of something to this affect, it might be real nice.

Make it to almost the diameter of the insert and have a 510 male at the bottom and a 510 female at top to bring the connection up top to be able to use with other attachments that are not long enough to fit. Maybe have it matching materials or something so it looks all nice and uniform. But this would allow people to have 1 device for the Herculus and then they can also use it for the Alpha Centauri or whatever else people find a use for it with.

Already in the works. :-)

 

[HellsWindStaff]

How do you clean your nibbler?

I have the AC nibbler, I just use hot water running through it, then some ISO, then I shake, then a little hot water but not enough to kick all ISO out the bottom, reshake, hot water, shake. Then I use a q tip for the splash guard top as that's the only spot that doesn't really get clean this way.

Just ordered a Herc 510 and got a lot of oil to put it through the paces!

 

[jmorales707]

Hi everyone, I just got my hercules oil cartridge in the mail today. Cleaned it loaded it up and I'm pretty medicated at the moment lol. 1 thing I was wondering was I was expecting a bigger hit.....I'm using an evic mini....I'm remember the old persie was better with aw imr batteries. Are those required for the new hercules as well? If so would it require the nipples or flat top batteries.

Thanks

 

[lonelyhero]

Hi everyone, I just got my hercules oil cartridge in the mail today. Cleaned it loaded it up and I'm pretty medicated at the moment lol. 1 thing I was wondering was I was expecting a bigger hit.....I'm using an evic mini....I'm remember the old persie was better with aw imr batteries. Are those required for the new hercules as well? If so would it require the nipples or flat top batteries.

Thanks

check to see if your coil has risen up the chamber i had similar issues at first until i squished my coil into a bit of an oval shape so it was contacting the sides of the chamber and couldn't move up above the rod if your coil is still firmly seated at the bottom of the chamber id check to see if your oil ran out to the bottom chamber if you ride the button too long you may have dumped the oil into the lower chamber

 

[jmorales707]

thanks for the tips. i brought my herc with me to work today. I usually dab on my breaks and lunch but today ill try to work on my technique hitting the hercules. I hope it can be almost as good as taking a dab so i dont have to waste time walking to my car which is pretty far away

 

[HellsWindStaff]

Hey I was browsing some Nibblers and had a question:

Did you guys remake the AC Nibbler recently? And if so, did the original AC Nibbler, was that basically the Nibbler G? I ordered an AC Nibbler months back in March, and just looking at photos, looks like the Nibbler G? With the neck going in the Nibbler a bit? I'll have to take a photo when I get home.

Also love it by the way, it never spills even when tipped on its side just curious if it was remade (kinda recall seeing they were)

Herc will be here tmmrw !!

 

[jim-bob]

My Nibbler AC has seen some shit that made me absolutely sure it was going to shatter into a million pieces, but I can't find a mark on the damn thing. I dunno what the deal is but I approve.

edit: like, i live in a warehouse with concrete floors and i am consistently clumsy. And yet somehow underdog thick glass stems and this nibbler have immunity.

 

[elmoe420]

Hey I was browsing some Nibblers and had a question:

Did you guys remake the AC Nibbler recently? And if so, did the original AC Nibbler, was that basically the Nibbler G? I ordered an AC Nibbler months back in March, and just looking at photos, looks like the Nibbler G? With the neck going in the Nibbler a bit? I'll have to take a photo when I get home.

Also love it by the way, it never spills even when tipped on its side just curious if it was remade (kinda recall seeing they were)

Herc will be here tmmrw !!

Congrats on your new Herc!

Yes, they released a v2 of the Nibbler AC awhile back. The first Nibbler AC was very similar to the Nibbler G in size but it had the honeycomb water trap like the XL rather than the annoying slit design of the G. The Nibbler AC v2 is much bigger in diameter than the v1 (almost as big as the XL) so it holds a ton more water and the percolation is much better.