Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

[DropGlobsNotBombs]

Will the SR74 function on the Robox Mod built by Divine Tribe and a 610-510? Would I need extra batteries? Could I get 'the core?' Sorry i'm quite naive but want big hits from a pen ASAP and just purchased the Robox with Divine Tribe donut atty

Goes from 3-6V and 5-15W

 

[Fredster951]

Will the SR74 function on the Robox Mod built by Divine Tribe and a 610-510? Would I need extra batteries? Could I get 'the core?' Sorry i'm quite naive but want big hits from a pen ASAP and just purchased the Robox with Divine Tribe donut atty

Goes from 3-6V and 5-15W

The SR74 requires at least 30 watts from cold start. Requires 7.4 v

 

[YouShouldTap_Shatter]

No your getting it wrong.

my whole issue is the health aspect.

If i want to ingest oils, i do not want carriers like pg or vg near me. The whole issue is health for us. That is why we stuck with the essential oil industry. As vaporizing pure oils is a lot safer then vg and pg that have no medicinal benefits other then being a carrier for something else. Now using a inhaler is a different world, but when you have the possibility that a liquid can creat formaldehyde then that's an issue.

Now getting to the tanks I sell online you could be right about that but then again you might not have noticed co2 extractions that are viscous and require tanks instead of the standard EO and kiss carts. Maybe that's the reason behind it. Also the fact that we offer Ti coils for the both the MT4 and Protanks for the guys who want purity.


Now moving on. I am a smoker and I know it's a bad thing, the reason we didn't put our weight behind researching and developing any ecig items is that I don't believe in supplementing nicotine from one delivery method to another.

Anyone who knows me knows that I ask one question when someone shows me their vg/pg cut oil. I laugh at it and ask why would you want to introduce a carrier for something that's going to be for health reasons.

Also take into account that oils need a higher temperature to vaporize thus bringing vg closer to combustion to make it happen.

The purer the oil the higher boiling point it is. That is why you can't vaporize oils at 410F as you would with flowers. Oils require around 500-600F.

.09 is incredibly low resistance, the persei shouldn't be used below .8 according to UPtech. I use kanthal to wrap my Kayfun builds around 1-1.5 ohms. 28/30gauge probably like 8-10 wraps or so I'd reckon should put you in the ballpark (i think, it's been a while since I built my kayfun hehe...). Use caution however - when you are using straight kanthal / nichrome without the "non-resistance" lead wires crimped on, the leads going down through the cup are going to get hot too. I have not tried rebuilding my own KISS yet so I don't know how to get around that issue other than using the non-resitance leads. If the lower part of the cup is getting hot it will melt the insulator o.O

EDIT: Also FYI - more wraps equals higher resistance.... so if you are at .09 you need waaaayyyyy more wraps hehe....

.09 is incredibly low resistance, the persei shouldn't be used below .8 according to UPtech. I use kanthal to wrap my Kayfun builds around 1-1.5 ohms. 28/30gauge probably like 8-10 wraps or so I'd reckon should put you in the ballpark (i think, it's been a while since I built my kayfun hehe...). Use caution however - when you are using straight kanthal / nichrome without the "non-resistance" lead wires crimped on, the leads going down through the cup are going to get hot too. I have not tried rebuilding my own KISS yet so I don't know how to get around that issue other than using the non-resitance leads. If the lower part of the cup is getting hot it will melt the insulator o.O

EDIT: Also FYI - more wraps equals higher resistance.... so if you are at .09 you need waaaayyyyy more wraps hehe....

torggzorz, thanks for the information. Used 12 wraps of 30 gauge. Works perfectly. I only planned on substituting out the titanium wire. The non-resistance wire is easy enough to work with.

 

[k3nd4l]

Hm there's no mail issues in Cali like what we're facing in the northeast right ?? My tracking hasn't updated since being Marked shipped by w9 2 days ago

 

[Big Baby Jesus]

Hm there's no mail issues in Cali like what we're facing in the northeast right ?? My tracking hasn't updated since being Marked shipped by w9 2 days ago

Who's the carrier? USPS doesn't really update it much. They show it got shipped, and then it'll say it arrived, got sorted, sent to your local PO, and out for delivery pretty much all at once.

 

[k3nd4l]

Who's the carrier? USPS doesn't really update it much. They show it got shipped, and then it'll say it arrived, got sorted, sent to your local PO, and out for delivery pretty much all at once.

it is usps, but every order i've had from w9 has had usps updated tracking info throughout the transit. I mean they have to... the package has a signature required so it cant(Shouldnt) be blindly delivered w/o previous notice.

my order however is still stuck on "shipping label created".

 

[bdmonkeyj3w]

Alright im havimg shipping issues this week too. Fuck usps. Ordered on monday, shipped tuesday, i live 3 hours away... wont be delivered till tomorrow. Fuck this. Fuck usps. A 3 hour trip in 3 days? WtF?!???!?

All apologies around. I needed to vent.

 

[DaNi_DuB]

it is usps, but every order i've had from w9 has had usps updated tracking info throughout the transit. I mean they have to... the package has a signature required so it cant(Shouldnt) be blindly delivered w/o previous notice.

my order however is still stuck on "shipping label created".

Your exact situation has happened to me numerous times. Sometimes I'll check the website while I'm at work & come home to a slip telling me to pick it up at the post office. One day I'll give in to paying double for ups.

 

[k3nd4l]

Your exact situation has happened to me numerous times. Sometimes I'll check the website while I'm at work & come home to a slip telling me to pick it up at the post office. One day I'll give in to paying double for ups.

ah no bueno. oh well, my mailman(lady) doesnt care much for "signature conformation". If no1s there she'll leave it at the door unless its something big but she also doesnt do the deliveries a random 2 days out of the week (the other guy makes me actually sign..) I work 530pm-730am so im home all day for usps i just dont want to give up my precious sleep if its not a sure thing its coming :/

EDIT: on another note i just picked up some new wax.. not really "room stable" this time around as ive been getting usually... Its not runny per se but it is extremely sticky and at room temp in my house (74 degrees) it looks like a melted blob .. i guess this is the "sap" people talk about? anyway i placed it in the freezer for a while n finally got it in the sr74x. after taking my hit if i break the suction (release lips from herc) i hear a sizzling and when i inhale im getting what seems to be hot water vapor...? i think ?

is this from putting it in the freezer? any ideas..

 

[bdmonkeyj3w]

Just an update to anyone else, usps is fucking up hard. My tracking info has been updated, previous entries redacted... it now left la an hour ago after saying it left last night. Fuck usps, youll get my 5 extra from now on g.... i cant take it anymore!

 

[k3nd4l]

Just an update to anyone else, usps is fucking up hard. My tracking info has been updated, previous entries redacted... it now left la an hour ago after saying it left last night. Fuck usps, youll get my 5 extra from now on g.... i cant take it anymore!

ya mine updated and said it left to my town post office from cali yesterday

 

[Fredster951]

ah no bueno. oh well, my mailman(lady) doesnt care much for "signature conformation". If no1s there she'll leave it at the door unless its something big but she also doesnt do the deliveries a random 2 days out of the week (the other guy makes me actually sign..) I work 530pm-730am so im home all day for usps i just dont want to give up my precious sleep if its not a sure thing its coming :/

EDIT: on another note i just picked up some new wax.. not really "room stable" this time around as ive been getting usually... Its not runny per se but it is extremely sticky and at room temp in my house (74 degrees) it looks like a melted blob .. i guess this is the "sap" people talk about? anyway i placed it in the freezer for a while n finally got it in the sr74x. after taking my hit if i break the suction (release lips from herc) i hear a sizzling and when i inhale im getting what seems to be hot water vapor...? i think ?

is this from putting it in the freezer? any ideas..

Yes moisture in the oil will sizzle in the SR.

 

[chronickiller7]

Yes moisture in the oil will sizzle in the SR.

Then how do you get rid of the water? So that you can actually get a hit? Its a problem I've been having the past couple days. Now I know to only put quality shatter in the herc.

 

[Big Baby Jesus]

EDIT: on another note i just picked up some new wax.. not really "room stable" this time around as ive been getting usually... Its not runny per se but it is extremely sticky and at room temp in my house (74 degrees) it looks like a melted blob .. i guess this is the "sap" people talk about? anyway i placed it in the freezer for a while n finally got it in the sr74x. after taking my hit if i break the suction (release lips from herc) i hear a sizzling and when i inhale im getting what seems to be hot water vapor...? i think ?

is this from putting it in the freezer? any ideas..

Alcohol will sizzle too. Not sure about butane, but I usually get a headache almost immediately from 'tane.

 

[kindbeats]

Then how do you get rid of the water? So that you can actually get a hit? Its a problem I've been having the past couple days. Now I know to only put quality shatter in the herc.

Moisture/sizzle isn't a big deal and should not be preventing you from getting a hit. The Herc should hit the same. Are you able to get any vapor production?

If you're really bugged about the moisture, you could heat your oil for a bit (low and slow) in a dish or on some parchment.

Question: Have you foil or flame tested your concentrate to make sure that the oil is fully purged and somewhat clean of particulate?

 

[bdmonkeyj3w]

ya mine updated and said it left to my town post office from cali yesterday

Holy shit, i wish i had the patience to type out the explanation i got from my postmaster... holy shit... usps needs to die, now! The only thing they are good for is crap delivery junk mail. All i need a 7.4 cart to show off on superbowl sunday, is that too much to ask??? Cmon postal workers, get your mediocre on faster!

 

[StormyPinkness]

Hm there's no mail issues in Cali like what we're facing in the northeast right ?? My tracking hasn't updated since being Marked shipped by w9 2 days ago

I live an hour south of LA and I get it next day with the cheapest usps option if it ships early enough in the day. I can usually time it to one of the days my wife is home, otherwise I just pick it up at the post office the next day. It sounds like I'm pretty lucky though, a lot of angry stories about shipping in the thread. Though I guess a lot are just complaints about the signature requirement.

 

[SamuraiSam]

Man. The way I use my Nibbler on the go, sometimes I end up with water inside the chamber. When that happens I shake as much out of the Hercules as I can, refill the Nibbler and put the thing back on, and hit it. Sometimes there is thin vapor until all the water gets evaporated out, then its back to business as usual.

I try to 'use up' the existing oil till it doesn't vaporize any more, then load with fresh stuff when it's totally out. I've never bothered emptying the oil out or anything due to a little water. The herc seems to power through it just fine.

 

[torggzorz]

Holy shit, i wish i had the patience to type out the explanation i got from my postmaster... holy shit... usps needs to die, now! The only thing they are good for is crap delivery junk mail. All i need a 7.4 cart to show off on superbowl sunday, is that too much to ask??? Cmon postal workers, get your mediocre on faster!

Given the option I will always use the UPS... I hate using usps they are slow, unreliable, and god forbid you have to actually make an appearance at the office it will be a guaranteed nightmare. UPS office is in and out in 2 minutes or less usually and they know how to properly deliver my packages.... For some reason I have had usps screw up on numerous shipments and they get sent back to me... wtf like seriously how hard is it. UPS was able to get it there in 2 days, without the additional 14 days waiting for them to figure out how to work the return address or something.

EDIT: Oh and UPS just leaves the packages always whereas USPS I always have to have the neighbor sign or go into the post office as I work during the day

 

[thevaf]

Now moving on. I am a smoker and I know it's a bad thing, the reason we didn't put our weight behind researching and developing any ecig items is that I don't believe in supplementing nicotine from one delivery method to another.

And the State of California says to @THC SCIENTIFIC "Thank you for Smoking"
Here's why: http://www.treasurer.ca.gov/cdiac/reports/tobacco.pdf

The state gets almost $21b (Billion with a B) over a 25 year period from lawsuit settlements with Big Tobacco. Now who wants to wait 25 years? The state is broke, we need cash now! "hey you got a structured settlement, but you need cash now?" (sound familiar?)
So they go to the suits and bankers. The suits and bankers do their suit-y banking stuff and create something called a "Tobacco Securitization Bond."
Without getting into the nitty gritty of financial securities, consider the Tobacco bond upfront payments by investors to the state in exchange for the settlement money the state will get over the 25 year period from Big T. And Big T. will continue to pay the state big $$$ as long as it has a portion of the population that will always smoke (probably around 10%). This looks like a win-win for CA and its voters. We get some much needed money to plug the holes in our budget and that money will continue coming in as long as there are smokers and revenue going to Big T.

Then the e-cigs arrived....

"The participating manufacturers agreed to pay the settling states a total of $246 billion over a 25-year period; however, if the annual losses of tobacco sales of the participating manufacturers are more than two percent compared to the other tobacco companies that are not part of the MSA (Master Settlement Agreement), the participating manufacturers can reduce their payments."

This basically states that if no one in CA smoked cigarettes, the state wouldn't get the settlement $ but would still be liable to bond holders. And CA isnt the only state with this 'problem'
Here is more reading if you are interested.

So, is it really about public health or is it about money? When in doubt, always follow the money....

Fun Fact: major funding that went into the "Formaldehyde" study came from the same lawyers that sued Big T. and won the settlements. Michael J. Dowd and Patrick J. Coughlin.

I apologize for derailing the thread but I had to address this. Now back to my Hercules on my CORE!

 

[elmoe420]

My new Up Tech toys arrived today!

Got the new "Vaporizer". Impressive for such a tiny unit. Definitely the ultimate in stealth if that is needed. Yields nice size clouds given its size. Only real question is battery life so we'll have to see on that. I actually got it mainly because its the only way to buy a Kiss Mini at the moment. I am all amped to try the Kiss Mini in the Okeanos. I'm going to need to invest in a pipe cuter it sounds like. @THC SCIENTIFIC When will we be able to just buy the Kiss Mini carts?

I also picked up a Hammer top finally. I was glad to see it did indeed come with the ceramic rod. I mainly got this to have a back-up Persei top in case my v3 fries. Haven't tried using the rod for dabbing yet.

Final toy was a Kanger Protank 2. Haven't had good results thus far. The taste is even worse than the MT4 tank. I can only guess this Velvet Vape VG is just too thick to wick in these tanks. Really don't want the hassle of an RDA though. @THC SCIENTIFIC Is the default coil in the Kanger Ti? What about the extra one it comes with?

 

[hellbent]

so I've just gotta ask, I'm just about to place a fairly sizeable order from up tech, is there still a discount code for fc? i tried THEORIGINAL that i read about a while ago, but it says its expired. so no more discount? or is there a new one?

 

[SamuraiSam]

W9TECH 10% off (listed on the front page) is the only one I'm aware of at the moment.

Took a Persei out for a hike in the woods yesterday

2 hours later, enjoyed it in a 1900s era fort. Utilizing my super trusty "Put it in my pants pocket" carrying technique, probably walked 3 or 4 very enjoyable miles as some companions and I vaped inside an ammo bunker before setting off along the coast down to the fixed gun emplacements and watchtowers

Portable oil rig indeed.

 

[DaNi_DuB]

Sent my SR74 to Gary for repairs (ended up being a bad bottom adapter) & he upgraded me to a SR74x and threw in an extra rod! This and the unmatched quality is why I've been a long time supporter of this company (no matter what their name was). Thanks for caring about the customer boss.

I also picked up a Hammer top finally. I was glad to see it did indeed come with the ceramic rod.

I swear I'll buy a second hammer top just for the rod if I have to but @THC SCIENTIFIC is there going to be an offering of the rod on its own?

 

[k3nd4l]

Sent my SR74 to Gary for repairs (ended up being a bad bottom adapter) & he upgraded me to a SR74x and threw in an extra rod! This and the unmatched quality is why I've been a long time supporter of this company (no matter what their name was). Thanks for caring about the customer boss.



I swear I'll buy a second hammer top just for the rod if I have to but @THC SCIENTIFIC is there going to be an offering of the rod on its own?

dont know if this is allowed but a mod can delete this if not.. anyways i have a hammer rod that came along w. my hammer top (wasnt expecting it as site said it was no longer included at the time). I dont have a need for it and its still unused; if your in the states i'd be willing to sell it through paypal for $5 + whatever shipping would be?

I live an hour south of LA and I get it next day with the cheapest usps option if it ships early enough in the day. I can usually time it to one of the days my wife is home, otherwise I just pick it up at the post office the next day. It sounds like I'm pretty lucky though, a lot of angry stories about shipping in the thread. Though I guess a lot are just complaints about the signature requirement.

yea the only complaints i've ever heard about w9/delta9 was the sig requirement. Just a safety measurement though i guess.. I'm not "angry" at all just wish it was an optional choice.
oh and the fact that its $10 shipping for even the tiniest item.