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Fredster951

Well-Known Member
have you checked to see if your gold center pin is still springy? Mine got gunned up and worked ok for a while after an evercLear soak but slowly started getting stuck down now it's loose and I had to adjust my rod down a bit to get good consistent contact again

I have a replacement center pin waiting at home along with a brand new nibbler xl can't wait to get out of work
That nibbler xl will change the way you look at w9 oil tools. Beautiful experience here. Pure pleasure! If you mastered the Herc already the Nibbler xl will make you giggle. Make sure you get a good seal on the top o ring adapter. If you have a good seal you will be pulling clouds in no time.
 

THC SCIENTIFIC

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before
Manufacturer
Yes many people including myself have complained about the low quality ti kiss carts but thcscientific has chosen to ignore all of us.

The ceramic cup is extremely loose on these ti kiss carts. The cup spins way too easily and pulls the ti wire straight out of the coupler. This is impossible to fix without a new ti wire, new coupler, and new non resistance wire. Very annoying.

And for the record..the rebuild instructions are for the nichrome kiss and not the ti kiss. It's not the same thing.

I take offense to the part that we have ignored our customers.

Up Tech

First to use ceramic wicks

First to use Ti Gr 2 coils

First to eliminate none essential materials from cartridge.

First to offer a Ti rebuild kit


To say we have ignored our customers yes I'm gonna take offense to that.

Now from what we got from our customers is to make the kiss as clean hitting as possible. This also means that all non-essential materials had to go.

Including the Nichrome mesh that surrounds the ceramic cup on carts of this nature.


Hope this explains it all.
 

lonelyhero

the lost soul
Company Rep
The only thing that worries me is I pass my herc around a lot to my friends but with the nibbler I'm gonna be too afraid of it being dropped
 
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Fredster951

Well-Known Member
The only thing that worries me is I pass my herc around a lot to my friends but with the nibbler I'm gonna be too afraid of it being dropped
Be careful man! I personally don't bring out the Nibbler outside my house. I tend to use it at home only. Especially if you are using it with the 8. One drop can break it. Just the nature of the beast...
 
Fredster951,

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Cloud Searcher...
The only thing that worries me is I pass my herc around a lot to my friends but with the nibbler I'm gonna be too afraid of it being dropped

Thats why I invested in an OrderedKhaos stand I like to call the "Armatura". Probably not going to do much if dropped. However the base and weight of this thing helps prevent it from being knocked over.

 

Jerrymech

Active Member
I take offense to the part that we have ignored our customers.

Up Tech

First to use ceramic wicks

First to use Ti Gr 2 coils

First to eliminate none essential materials from cartridge.

First to offer a Ti rebuild kit


To say we have ignored our customers yes I'm gonna take offense to that.

Now from what we got from our customers is to make the kiss as clean hitting as possible. This also means that all non-essential materials had to go.

Including the Nichrome mesh that surrounds the ceramic cup on carts of this nature.


Hope this explains it all.

I didn't say you ignored your customers as a general statement. I said you ignored everyone who commented that the ti kiss carts are breaking in a couple days.

Nice attempt at misdirection talking about all those things that have nothing to do with what I said. I take offense to that.

The ti kiss carts are breaking too easily. That's what people are saying. Whatever the reason is is really irrelevant. It doesn't justify paying good money for something that breaks easily. What because it's healthier we should just accept throwing $15 a pop down the drain?

I'm only responding this way because you cant just respond reasonably to a reasonable complaint.
 
Jerrymech,

THC SCIENTIFIC

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before
Manufacturer
I didn't say you ignored your customers as a general statement. I said you ignored everyone who commented that the ti kiss carts are breaking in a couple days.

Nice attempt at misdirection talking about all those things that have nothing to do with what I said. I take offense to that.

The ti kiss carts are breaking too easily. That's what people are saying. Whatever the reason is is really irrelevant. It doesn't justify paying good money for something that breaks easily. What because it's healthier we should just accept throwing $15 a pop down the drain?

I'm only responding this way because you cant just respond reasonably to a reasonable complaint.

No you stated the kiss being low quality. Meaning parts used that are not up to industry standards. I mind telling you the standards are set by us.

As for the kiss breaking easily I can say the opposite as we have many customers who use the kiss carteidges for over a month.

As for dodging anyone I do not. If you read my posts and have followed us for a long time you'll know Ill take a stand and take a problem head on. This problem to me looks like user error, there for I can not fix that. You might not like this explanation but it's the truth. The ceramic cup was pulled out because oil solidifying and causing it to stick. Which easily can be fixed by making sure the oil never leaves the ceramic bowl and never to over load it.

Ok moving on. If you really want a cartridge that does not break and has a 1 year warranty I suggest you look into the Hercules Sr74x.
 
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k3nd4l

Well-Known Member
Uhm.. So I was using my 74x outside work without the heat shield (have had it off since I have to take it apart so often now). Put the 74x in my pocket to go inside and take a piss n when I came back outside I realized the top cap & mouthpiece fell off somewhere and I couldn't find it..

@THC SCIENTIFIC im willing to buy the 74x upgrade kit to replace the top cap (I don't see it sold alone on the site ? Unless it is cuss that's all I need) BUT I don't see the 74 mouthpiece anywhere so I was wondering if that could be included ?? Please get back to me asap so I can get back to vaping.

EDIT; for now I realized my kiss mouth piece manages to make a seal can I use it like this or is it not recommended ?
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k3nd4l,

Nube Scrutator

Cloud Searcher...
EDIT; for now I realized my kiss mouth piece manages to make a seal can I use it like this or is it not recommended ?

The herc gets so hot! I bet the orange o-ring on the kiss mp melts.

Contact W9 customer service. Maybe they'll have some herc parts available for sale.
 
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k3nd4l

Well-Known Member
The herc gets so hot! I bet the orange o-ring on the kiss mp melts.

i can remove the orange ring if thats the only problem you see happening? currently the orange ring isnt even touching the chamber its slightly out so that the bottom of the mouthpiece isnt touching my oil.

It's like this
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k3nd4l,

Nube Scrutator

Cloud Searcher...
Well I have no real experience with what your attempting. Just be cautious about inhaling fumes from hot plastic, o-ring or not. Also it would suck to get melted plastic on or in the herc itself.

My advice would be to temporarily retire the Herc. Use another vape setup you might have around until you get a proper replacement part(s). I know, its hard to not use the Hercules!

On another note, I just received some fresh new AW IMR's from RTD Vapor. I have several AW's purchased from various sellers online including eBay. I'm just not confident that all of them are authentic. Out with the old, in with the new!

 
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elmoe420

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Uhm.. So I was using my 74x outside work without the heat shield (have had it off since I have to take it apart so often now). Put the 74x in my pocket to go inside and take a piss n when I came back outside I realized the top cap & mouthpiece fell off somewhere and I couldn't find it..

@THC SCIENTIFIC im willing to buy the 74x upgrade kit to replace the top cap (I don't see it sold alone on the site ? Unless it is cuss that's all I need) BUT I don't see the 74 mouthpiece anywhere so I was wondering if that could be included ?? Please get back to me asap so I can get back to vaping.

Instead of buying the entire SR-74x upgrade kit you might be able to use this instead:

http://www.w9tech.com/hercules-sr-71-stainless-steel-cap/

You'll have to check with @THC SCIENTIFIC to be sure though.
 

k3nd4l

Well-Known Member
Instead of buying the entire SR-74x upgrade kit you might be able to use this instead:

http://www.w9tech.com/hercules-sr-71-stainless-steel-cap/

You'll have to check with @THC SCIENTIFIC to be sure though.

Yea I can use that one but I'm pretty sure that's the threaded cap ? I'm looking for the upgraded slip on cap that I had. I'm willing to get the whole kit for it & would place the order right now.. Only problem is its still useless w/o the sr74 mouthpiece which I lost along w. The top cap.. Just waiting on a reply from @THC SCIENTIFIC since it's the weekend and I'm probably not getting an answer from w9 anytime soon if I open a ticket
 
k3nd4l,

THC SCIENTIFIC

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before
Manufacturer
is there a eta on the ceramic donut and when there will be repair parts in stock for it?

No ETA on the 1701 but it is in production as well as replacement donuts.

Please understand that there is the upcoming Chinese New Year so all our employees in China will be on holiday for about 2 weeks.
 
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elmoe420

Well-Known Member
Yea I can use that one but I'm pretty sure that's the threaded cap ? I'm looking for the upgraded slip on cap that I had. I'm willing to get the whole kit for it & would place the order right now.. Only problem is its still useless w/o the sr74 mouthpiece which I lost along w. The top cap.. Just waiting on a reply from @THC SCIENTIFIC since it's the weekend and I'm probably not getting an answer from w9 anytime soon if I open a ticket

I believe the SR-71 used a threadless cap like the 74x. The 74 introduced the threaded cap and it gets gummed up and stuck which is why @THC SCIENTIFIC reverted back to the old style for the x rev. Could be wrong though I don't personally own a 71 (unfortunately).
 

SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
Yea I can use that one but I'm pretty sure that's the threaded cap ? I'm looking for the upgraded slip on cap that I had. I'm willing to get the whole kit for it & would place the order right now.. Only problem is its still useless w/o the sr74 mouthpiece which I lost along w. The top cap.. Just waiting on a reply from @THC SCIENTIFIC since it's the weekend and I'm probably not getting an answer from w9 anytime soon if I open a ticket
The SR-71 and SR-74x both use non-threaded top caps, so the one that @elmoe420 linked IS the one you want. Only the SR-74 used the threaded top cap and upper chamber. The SR-71 and SR-71x top cap CAN be slipped into the threaded upper chamber of the -74, but it's not as nice of a fit as the other two chambers.

You might be surprised with the response time on tickets to W9, even on the weekend, as their new customer service guy learns how to do his job. ;)
 
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420time

Well-Known Member
No ETA on the 1701 but it is in production as well as replacement donuts.

Please understand that there is the upcoming Chinese New Year so all our employees in China will be on holiday for about 2 weeks.


i thought all the products were made in the USA? You guys got a factory in china or just source parts?
 
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k3nd4l

Well-Known Member
The SR-71 and SR-74x both use non-threaded top caps, so the one that @elmoe420 linked IS the one you want. Only the SR-74 used the threaded top cap and upper chamber. The SR-71 and SR-71x top cap CAN be slipped into the threaded upper chamber of the -74, but it's not as nice of a fit as the other two chambers.

You might be surprised with the response time on tickets to W9, even on the weekend, as their new customer service guy learns how to do his job. ;)

But this still doesn't help the fact that I have a sr74x with NO mouthpiece even if I order the top cap to get it sorted out. And there's no way in hell I am paying $9.99 shipping & handling twice to get a $7 item & other (should be) cheap item. It seems EVERY necessary piece to the herc except the mouthpiece has a replacement sold on the website

Also fun fact for those of you interested.
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Kiss cart from clearance section is on sale for $7.99 (only in 3 colors)
Same Kiss cart on sale in kiss cart section is $11.99

Save a couple bucks if color isn't a preference
 
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DieHard

Accessory supplier
Accessory Maker
But this still doesn't help the fact that I have a sr74x with NO mouthpiece even if I order the top cap to get it sorted out. And there's no way in hell I am paying $9.99 shipping & handling twice to get a $7 item & other (should be) cheap item. It seems EVERY necessary piece to the herc except the mouthpiece has a replacement sold on the website
That red "o" ring is food grade silicone good to 450F. I don't think THAT part of the Herc gets hot enough to melt them (I have put my lips directly on this part when hot. Not comfortable, but not burning me). I think the mouthpiece is Teflon. That should be good to at least the same temp. I think you're good, just don't overdo it.:2c:
 
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