Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

AirBear

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Hey I currently have a source ORB dab pen and am now currently looking for a different pen for concentrates. After looking around for a bit it seems like the Persei would be a great option. I am wondering what you guys thought about the persei kit or the pass through system and a Hercules. Don't really know much of the differences between the various setups and was wondering for you guys thought was best and what the different setup combos are haha
 
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spoutti

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I still get some messy material seeping out the holes on the side of the Heater Core. I do lots of cool down hits and store on the side but it still gets messy. Sounds like the more experienced members have solved this somehow. I'm listening to any suggestions from the group.[/USER]
Here is my personnal herc trick working so far: feel the oil staying in the upper chamber. Cool down hits with enough pressure. Too much pressure and your mouth piece (or screen if you use it) gets gunked, not enough and the oil melts down in the 2nd chamber. All in my newb humble opignon[/user]

edit: I do small cool downs hits while i hold my cloud in, just to pop an airflow hole in the concentrate. And then I do more long cool down hits as well
 
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Fredster951

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I put a new coil in it. And I will try adding more oil.
One more thing to check since you added a new coil is to make sure the coil is not sliding up. If the herc resistance is good and the coil does not move, you should get clouds. After cleaning a SR 71, I usually get weak clouds until I start adding more buffer oil. Sometimes it seems like enough is in the chamber when in reality you need more. General rule is if you can you see the coil clearly , you need more buffer oil.
 

THC SCIENTIFIC

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Hey I currently have a source ORB dab pen and am now currently looking for a different pen for concentrates. After looking around for a bit it seems like the Persei would be a great option. I am wondering what you guys thought about the persei kit or the pass through system and a Hercules. Don't really know much of the differences between the various setups and was wondering for you guys thought was best and what the different setup combos are haha

Main question is what are you looking for in a pen?
 
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quader

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One more thing to check since you added a new coil is to make sure the coil is not sliding up. If the herc resistance is good and the coil does not move, you should get clouds. After cleaning a SR 71, I usually get weak clouds until I start adding more buffer oil. Sometimes it seems like enough is in the chamber when in reality you need more. General rule is if you can you see the coil clearly , you need more buffer oil.

I had to crush my coils a bit to keep them at the bottom. As stated above, do not pull too hard! I typically use very clean shatter like chronickiller posted and get dab sized clouds with a 10sec pull/10 sec cool down.

FWIW I don't have any issues with my concentrate dripping to the chamber below unless I forget my cool down.
 

420time

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So when are the touch Persei coming out? Also whats going on with the Kiss Alpha C carts, and the "iris v2" coming out?

Anyone know if the Iris v2 will fit the hercules sr74x?
 
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SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
never remove the coil unless I want to throw it out, because I will destroy it in the removal/cleaning process.
If you heat the upper section with a heat gun to loosen the oil, the coil becomes much easier to remove without damage. Pushing up from the bottom thru the small hole the rod goes through, rather then 'picking' out from the top, also helps. But you have put much more oil through your Hercs than I have. I'd read about turning the Herc upside down and using a heat gun on a fairly high heat to melt all old oil out of the coil, and I haven't tried it yet but sounds like a good technique. Was that you?

:o You've got balls of steal, my friend. I would never risk iso soaking something with electronics in it.
If there is no power to the electronics, and the ISO is pure (99%=:tup:, lower :cry:), there are no issues with this. Water creating alternate paths to create shorts is what would cause damage. When no electricity is present, and the components aren't absorbent, no issues. 99% iso will evaporate completely, and after a through drying, can be powered up with no problem. One key note here, is that many small electronics contain capacitors which can store energy even after power (wall or battery) power is removed. Check that beforehand...

Hey I currently have a source ORB dab pen and am now currently looking for a different pen for concentrates. After looking around for a bit it seems like the Persei would be a great option. I am wondering what you guys thought about the persei kit or the pass through system and a Hercules. Don't really know much of the differences between the various setups and was wondering for you guys thought was best and what the different setup combos are haha
Love your name. Same as a local ski group, and jump at my home mountain (Mt. Baker). If you are looking for something similar to the ORB then the Omi is good. If you want a step up then the Persei would be perfect. The CORE power supply "pass through" is an add-on that you would need a device to use, so that might be something to consider as an accessory or supplement, not a replacement for one of the vaporizers themselves. The Hercules are awesome and if you want the most flexibility, power, taste- the Persei+Herc is indeed a fantastic setup.

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So when are the touch Persei coming out? Also whats going on with the Kiss Alpha C carts, and the "iris v2" coming out?

Anyone know if the Iris v2 will fit the hercules sr74x?
Yes, the Iris has/will have a 601 threading and will fit all the Hercules carts.
 

420time

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Hey guys the 8 testing video says the hercules sr74 goes up to 1000 degrees, so what about the persei with 2 small battery + hercules sr74?




Does anyone know if you can use the sr74x with variable voltage e cig mods?
 
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Skeena

Standing stone faced like a statue.
It will work the same with the 8 and the persei, the point of that video was to show that it does work with the 8, and that you just need to set it right.
 

SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
Does anyone know if you can use the sr74x with variable voltage e cig mods?
The Hercules was designed to be powered by the Persei with 2x high discharge, IMR 18350 or bigger batteries for 7.4V. It also has 601 threading. If you can find another device that meets those specifications, it will work. Depending on the type of device you are referring to, there are different answers for these questions, also depending on your experience level. Some information here:

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/t...bs-and-concentrates.4873/page-869#post-614774

and recently, on pages 1046, 1047 http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-persei-vaporizer-for-herbs-and-concentrates.4873/page-1046

The sr74x works same temp as the persei?
I'm not sure what question you're trying to ask here. The Persei is a power supply, and provides power to the SR74x, which is a cartridge that contains a heating element. The temperature of that heating element is determined by several things, like the oil it's bathed in, the length of your button holds, the velocity of your draw (inhalation speed), the charge on the batteries, etc.

*Edit I'm sorry I didn't understand your question; luckily @Skeena wasn't as vaked as I was... yes the 8 and Persei should output the same power to the Herc or any other cart. When assembled correctly. Being a mechanical mod there is technically the possibility for less voltage drop with the 8, but that is being really nitpicky. You should see the same temperatures at the rod with either unit.
 
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THC SCIENTIFIC

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@THC SCIENTIFIC
So when are the touch Persei coming out? Also whats going on with the Kiss Alpha C carts, and the "iris v2" coming out?

Anyone know if the Iris v2 will fit the hercules sr74x?

not sure on the Persei touch button kits release date, as we make changes and upgrade somethings we shall know about this later around Feb 2015.

As for the Iris v2 yes it will work with the Hercules thats for sure, but there are other things we are working with the Iris and gonna make it unique.

@420time don't forget about the triton!!!


You guys have the best timing, we finally got the last and final prototype done and will start assembling end of next week for trials.

Currently we are evaluating its strengths and weaknesses and rather take it slow.


Or the 8 "infinity umbrella" I think? For the 8 vaporizer

Working on the infinity kit but will take time, its not something thats important but it is in the works.
 
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Patrick Hughes

Stoneman
If you heat the upper section with a heat gun to loosen the oil, the coil becomes much easier to remove without damage. Pushing up from the bottom thru the small hole the rod goes through, rather then 'picking' out from the top, also helps. But you have put much more oil through your Hercs than I have. I'd read about turning the Herc upside down and using a heat gun on a fairly high heat to melt all old oil out of the coil, and I haven't tried it yet but sounds like a good technique. Was that you?

Yeah I use this technique, but I wasn't telling anyone to never take the coil out, I was just saying I never do it. I only want to say what works for me. I have also boiled the coil ad iso soaked it but I have found heating the really old gunk out and letting it drip right into the trash works most easily for me, and it takes a little less oil and effort to "rebuffer" the whole thing as well.

ps triton force activate. I can't wait for that!
 
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mixchu69

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can someone who uses the heat gun method post a link to a heat gun that would work for this technique. There seems to be a wide range according to cost and don't want to waste money on something that doesn't work. Thanks
 
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torggzorz

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can someone who uses the heat gun method post a link to a heat gun that would work for this technique. There seems to be a wide range according to cost and don't want to waste money on something that doesn't work. Thanks

Heatguns are pretty simple devices. It's really just a glorified hairdryer. I had one that I used and abused on a heavy duty construction site for a couple years before it broke and I got it for 8 bucks from harbor freight. Dunno if you can go "too cheap" on this particular product lol....as long as it heats up then go for it :p
 
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